Who is the most talented of Germany's new breed?

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Post by jibers Tue May 28, 2013 10:13 pm

danyjr wrote:I prefer Özil and don't like watching the others. They all lack fantasia.

Ozil does? lol

Goetze this season has done things far better than anything ozilhas done in his career.

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Post by CBarca Tue May 28, 2013 10:16 pm

I'd say Gotze.

I don't think it's ludicrous to put Muller up there with the likes of Gotze and Reus though. Proven top player playing consistently for a top side and consistently is one of the players making the difference there. Which Kroos also deserves credit for as well, and I put Kroos up there too.

But overall I'd have to say Gotze. After that I can't really pick who is better between Reus, Muller, Gundogan, Kroos etc. etc.

I don't watch any of them consistently enough to really say, anyway.
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Post by danyjr Tue May 28, 2013 10:20 pm

jibers wrote:Ozil does? lol

Goetze this season has done things far better than anything ozilhas done in his career.
Sorry but I don't buy that. I'm talking about fantasia, not doing heel tricks. Personal preference.
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Post by jibers Tue May 28, 2013 10:21 pm

danyjr wrote:
jibers wrote:Ozil does? lol

Goetze this season has done things far better than anything ozilhas done in his career.
Sorry but I don't buy that. I'm talking about fantasia, not doing heel tricks. Personal preference.

lol, Ozil does **** all and is ovverated because he plays for Real Madrid. Failed in almost every big game for Madrid and as the fitness level of a 90 year old chain smoker. What fantasia does Ozil have? Your making him sound like Baggio or Riqueleme lol
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Post by danyjr Tue May 28, 2013 10:23 pm

Fitness's got jack to do with fantasia.
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Post by DuringTheWar Tue May 28, 2013 10:42 pm

jibers wrote:
danyjr wrote:
jibers wrote:Ozil does? lol

Goetze this season has done things far better than anything ozilhas done in his career.
Sorry but I don't buy that. I'm talking about fantasia, not doing heel tricks. Personal preference.

is ovverated because he plays for Real Madrid.

He's been rated highly since the 2010 WC
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Post by Mamad Tue May 28, 2013 10:47 pm

jibers wrote:
danyjr wrote:
jibers wrote:Ozil does? lol

Goetze this season has done things far better than anything ozilhas done in his career.
Sorry but I don't buy that. I'm talking about fantasia, not doing heel tricks. Personal preference.

lol, Ozil does **** all and is ovverated because he plays for Real Madrid. Failed in almost every big game for Madrid and as the fitness level of a 90 year old chain smoker. What fantasia does Ozil have? Your making him sound like Baggio or Riqueleme lol

Too harsh. be fair bro.
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Post by alexander mahone Tue May 28, 2013 11:17 pm

jibers wrote:
lol, Ozil does **** all and is ovverated because he plays for Real Madrid. Failed in almost every big game for Madrid and as the fitness level of a 90 year old chain smoker. What fantasia does Ozil have? Your making him sound like Baggio or Riqueleme lol

scratch I think he's probably hated more & got his performance rated less ever since playing for us. For example, very few players would get repeatedly insulted as a huge failure/flop like Ozil from the kind of performances vs Bayern & Dormund despite him scored & assisted 2 goals in both legs vs Bayern and scored & assisted 4 goals vs Dortmund. Except Lewandowski, neither of attacking players from the opposition as decisive as Ozil in those encounters. Or vs Man. United where he's pretty boss in 1st leg and though not so much in 2nd leg but still setting up the winning goal with a beautiful backhell. Or vs Barca where many still pretend than Ozil had nothing to do with our successful matches vs them despite him made most of our goals against them. Any other player did those things probably would be hailed for being consistently decisive/clutch,etc.
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Post by Valkyrja Tue May 28, 2013 11:30 pm

alexander mahone wrote:
jibers wrote:
lol, Ozil does **** all and is ovverated because he plays for Real Madrid. Failed in almost every big game for Madrid and as the fitness level of a 90 year old chain smoker. What fantasia does Ozil have? Your making him sound like Baggio or Riqueleme lol

scratch I think he's probably hated more & got his performance rated less ever since playing for us. For example, very few players would get repeatedly insulted as a huge failure/flop like Ozil from the kind of performances vs Bayern & Dormund despite him scored & assisted 2 goals in both legs vs Bayern and scored & assisted 4 goals vs Dortmund. Except Lewandowski, neither of attacking players from the opposition as decisive as Ozil in those encounters. Or vs Man. United where he's pretty boss in 1st leg and though not so much in 2nd leg but still setting up the winning goal with a beautiful backhell. Or vs Barca where many still pretend than Ozil had nothing to do with our successful matches vs them despite him made most of our goals against them. Any other player did those things probably would be hailed for being consistently decisive/clutch,etc.

Lately, every Madrid player is starting to be underrated
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Post by ioilersrock448 Wed May 29, 2013 1:59 am

I'm gonna have to say Thomas Mueller and I'm suprised nobody has any love for him in this thread.

Hard worker, smart player, always working and his work gets him results. He may not have the skill of any others but he makes up for it with his other qualities (He's an absolute sh*t diver too).
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Post by chad4401 Wed May 29, 2013 2:20 am

ozil for me personally on his game you can't contain him, but he had some pretty poor games this season, so right now gotze
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed May 29, 2013 2:37 pm

Didnt think Reus was so highly rated on here, i dont see it but oh well
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Post by sportsczy Wed May 29, 2013 2:39 pm

Has Yesil gone to Liverpool and died? Laughing
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Post by Arquitecto Wed May 29, 2013 2:49 pm

sportsczy wrote:Has Yesil gone to Liverpool and died? Laughing

He played a few games for us followed by an unfortunate ligament injury which ruled him out for 6-8 months.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed May 29, 2013 2:54 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Didnt think Reus was so highly rated on here, i dont see it but oh well

How can't you? has anything.... passing, vision, dribbling, close control, explosive pace, finishing etc etc.

One of the best wingers/inside forwards in the world IMO.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed May 29, 2013 3:20 pm

i think i never looked at him as an overly talented player but just one that uses the tools he has extremely well. i takes intelligence to do it surely, but gotze and ozil scream talent at me, Reus not so much. although talent =/= efficiency
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Post by jibers Wed May 29, 2013 4:04 pm

For me it has to be neuer

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All he needs to add to his game is goals

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Post by Milantildeath Wed May 29, 2013 7:40 pm

Reus over all of them. This kid is special.
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Post by rwo power Wed May 29, 2013 8:28 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:yeah, babun has been telling us that Draxler is the second best wide player in germany. oh well he is a fan
Jule is playing centrally nowadays.

Well, I'd say Julian Draxler, Mario Götze, Toni Kroos, Marco Reus, Ilkay Gündogan (he's only 22, mind you) and there are more coming up. Left out Özil as he's already 24 ^^


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Post by TheRedStag Wed May 29, 2013 8:30 pm

Kroos & Reus
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Samed Yeşil
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Post by TheRedStag Wed May 29, 2013 8:32 pm

ExtremistEnigma wrote:Samed Yeşil

I like your style smoking
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Post by bn126 Thu May 30, 2013 10:13 pm

Where does Schurrle rank?

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Post by Bellabong Fri May 31, 2013 5:49 am

Gündogan.

Schürrle is great, but not super special.
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Post by Highburied Fri May 31, 2013 7:07 am

I look forward how Reus does without Lewa and Gatsby
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