Who is the most talented of Germany's new breed?

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Post by jibers Tue May 28, 2013 7:38 pm

Valkyrja wrote:Kroos is the main reason why Germany lost to Italy at Euro, by pushing Ozil outside. Everytime he plays with Germany in the center, he is their best player, Gotze being forced to play as a false9/striker and Kroos rotting the bench. Gotze is and will always be more effective than Ozil, I agree, but Ozil is more artistic.

artistic? :rof:

He flops in most big games and is substituted every 70 minutes

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue May 28, 2013 7:39 pm

Gil wrote:Shocked at the lack of Reus shouts.

The reason i didn't was because Jibers was talking about Kroos, Ozil and Gotze so felt thats what he wanted to discuss.

Otherwise i would have, i still think Gotze is the most talented but Reus is 2nd.
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Post by LeVersacci Tue May 28, 2013 7:40 pm

Germany are so lucky to have all those talented players..

Wonder how Löw will lineup with all those players silent
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Post by VivaStPauli Tue May 28, 2013 7:42 pm

LeGladiator wrote:Germany are so lucky to have all those talented players..

Wonder how Löw will lineup with all those players silent

In some cowardly way that will see us not win the WC. That clown will make me rage so hard.
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Post by McAgger Tue May 28, 2013 7:42 pm

Löw will mess it up. He will start Gomez and Podolski :coffee:
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Post by Valkyrja Tue May 28, 2013 7:44 pm

jibers wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:Kroos is the main reason why Germany lost to Italy at Euro, by pushing Ozil outside. Everytime he plays with Germany in the center, he is their best player, Gotze being forced to play as a false9/striker and Kroos rotting the bench. Gotze is and will always be more effective than Ozil, I agree, but Ozil is more artistic.

artistic? :rof:

He flops in most big games and is substituted every 70 minutes

That was 2 years ago, and he was never a big game flop. The only big game he truly flopped was the 5-0, but everyone was bad. He's usually our best player in big games.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue May 28, 2013 7:45 pm

usually our best player in big games? oh my

like vs man utd? or dortmund? or city? or barca? or bayern?

galasataray, once, although i can count one game vs dortmund. valencia? yes, minus the game topal destroyed him. patetico? sometimes. ajax? oh yes. cska? no.
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Post by nasir6371 Tue May 28, 2013 7:48 pm

highburied wrote:Reus>>>


Surprised no one didn't say it earlier.

Kroos?? thats really funny
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Post by VivaStPauli Tue May 28, 2013 7:50 pm

McAgger wrote:Löw will mess it up. He will start Gomez and Podolski :coffee:

Even that could work if done right. If we were to play wing-heavy with loads of crosses to Gomez, and not play in a way that would require him to be a link-up player, why not play Gomez, he's a brilliant poacher.

But Löw will probably do something retarded. Like playing Kroos on the wing, costing us all the pace and width that makes us strong.

TBH we should play Reus and Müller on the wings, and either have Götze as a false 9, or Klose/Reus up front (if Reus, move Götze to LM) - Özil or Kroos play CAM, maybe Götze, who cares.

The point is, there's loads of possible tactics and lineups. I just hate when he combines tactics with lineups that don't complement each other.

He'll try to dominate possession with Gomez up front. He'll try counter-attacking with a false 9. Löw is an idiot. And limiting Germanys width... I could rage about this for decades, and probably will.
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Post by McAgger Tue May 28, 2013 7:50 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Otherwise i would have, i still think Gotze is the most talented but Reus is 2nd.

Agree with this. If we bring Reus into the equation. I think he's only barely second to Gotze (A nose hair behind).

But once again, I think Draxler will pass all of them.


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Post by VivaStPauli Tue May 28, 2013 7:51 pm

nasir6371 wrote:
highburied wrote:Reus>>>


Surprised no one didn't say it earlier.

Kroos?? thats really funny

WTF hasn't been 100% world class about Kroos' performances this year? Besides him being injured against Juve, when has he ever not shown up?

Granted, that doesn't leave many important UCL matches, but believe me, he smacked some bitches in the league. Has been incredibly immense. And would've started every mathc of the season without that injury.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue May 28, 2013 7:52 pm

nasir6371 wrote:
highburied wrote:Reus>>>


Surprised no one didn't say it earlier.

Kroos?? thats really funny

I wouldn't say so he's extremely talented and is easily the most intelligent of the lot.

Intelligence is a talent.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue May 28, 2013 7:55 pm

How really curious to see just how good Draxler will get. Dem Germans canteras
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Post by Adit Tue May 28, 2013 7:56 pm

Podolski's days are over i fear with all those wingers and Ams germany are producing. Proud
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Post by RealGunner Tue May 28, 2013 7:57 pm

Kroos is fantastic, but i prefer Oezil due to his style.

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Post by RealGunner Tue May 28, 2013 7:57 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:How really curious to see just how good Draxler will get. Dem Germans canteras

Wait till you see Leon Goretzka lol

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Post by RealGunner Tue May 28, 2013 8:01 pm

Adit wrote:Podolski's days are over i fear with all those wingers and Ams germany are producing. Proud

He has already lost his starting spot. But he will always be in the German squad.
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Post by animal.crackers Tue May 28, 2013 8:02 pm

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Post by VivaStPauli Tue May 28, 2013 8:02 pm

RealGunner wrote:Kroos is fantastic, but i prefer Oezil due to his style.

Oh, I can get on board with this.
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Post by Gil Tue May 28, 2013 8:02 pm

What's Germany's starting lineup anyway nowadays?
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Post by RealGunner Tue May 28, 2013 8:03 pm

animal.crackers wrote:Max Meyer

Long time :bow:
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Post by McAgger Tue May 28, 2013 8:03 pm

One great thing about Draxler is that he's a hardcore Schalke fanboy who hates both BVB and to a lesser extent Bayern Proud When he eventually moves, it'll be outside of Bundesliga Proud GTFI Perez
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue May 28, 2013 8:04 pm

RealGunner wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:How really curious to see just how good Draxler will get. Dem Germans canteras

Wait till you see Leon Goretzka lol


he is a CM isnt? i think we tried to sign him last summer for Castilla but it didnt work Laughing

but we have Casemiro and Jose Rodriguez Proud
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Post by VivaStPauli Tue May 28, 2013 8:08 pm

Gil wrote:What's Germany's starting lineup anyway nowadays?

Difficult to say. All being fit probably
Neuer/ Lahm Hummels Badstuber ??? / Khedira Schweinsteiger / Müller Özil Reus(Götze?) / Klose
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Post by RealGunner Tue May 28, 2013 8:09 pm

No bias but i would play Mertesacker over Hummels
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Post by Gil Tue May 28, 2013 8:10 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:
Gil wrote:What's Germany's starting lineup anyway nowadays?

Difficult to say. All being fit probably
Neuer/ Lahm Hummels Badstuber ??? / Khedira Schweinsteiger / Müller Özil Reus(Götze?) / Klose

That's your preferred lineup or Loew's?

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