Is Juve a top team now?

gnrfan wrote:

AbraKebabra Alacalamb wrote:How does that not make sense, please read my posts.

I'm going by what teams have came up against and how they have performed.

You're looking at this using nothing but how far teams have gotten in the CL.

Juventus drew the absolute NUMBER 1 top team in Europe. We got knocked out.

If Juventus drew Galatasaray, knocked them out and Barca got knocked out by Bayern in the last 16 it wouldn't make Juventus better than Barcelona.

How far you get is mostly down to the luck of the draw.

I'm a juve fan myself man, but going on performance dortmund would beat us quiet handily. They'd press pirlo out of the match, and our "strikeforce" wouldn't do jackshit. We need a serious infusion of quality up top before we can put our selves in this company.

The Ostracised One wrote:Currently

Level 1 Bayern
Level 2 Dortmund
Level 3 Real Madrid Barcelona Juventus Manchester United

izzy wrote:

djfawnz wrote:izzy wthell are you talking about?

you want some hard proven facts?
49 or something undefeated streak in serie a, which if you are a unbiased and wise person, would already know that serie a is the most dificult and tactical league of the top 5 best leagues.
Won the league undefeated with the best defense of all the top 5 leagues, period. that is something that will stay on juventus history and all football for life son
First italian team with private owned stadium
On the way of winning our second scudetto
Went 19 games undefeated on Europe.
This year we probably had one of the best defense in CL statwise
We have 6 first starting national team players who went to Euro Finals
We topped the 2nd group of death and made history by disqualifying a champions winner in group stages.

Oh and before any of you haters start talking that Juve doesnt have any competitors in the league, last year Milan had everybody.....


Ooooh and before u start saying that Chelsea sucks and blabla, when we played them, they were considered a force to be reckon with, now that the season has passed we have seen that they are not having a good season but in September-November nobody was thinking that.

Peace out

Are you out of your mind?

Let me break down all that garbage.
I don't give a fck if you went unbeaten in Serie A. I don't care. On the European stage, you've proven fck all. Zilch. Nothing and after one season some of you Juve fans have the nerve to sit here and tell me you are part of the elite clubs in Europe? That you are on par with Barca, Madrid or United? What a joke.

The stuff in red, I won't even get into because that has nothing to do with club and European pedigree. What has it got to do as your status as an elite team on the European stage?

This is your FIRST YEAR back in I don't know and you think your up there with the best because you beat the worst Chelsea team in 8 years? Because you beat Shakhtar and some other unknown in that group? Oh please.
And fyi, I don't rate Chelsea, haven't done for 2 years now. Don't care that they won the CL last year, they are fcking horrible and are showing slow signs of actually improving.

That stupid 19 games unbeaten stat is garbage. Why did you leave out that some of those games were in the EL? You know, the creme de la creme of European football.

How about, Juve actually show some damn consistency in Europe for 2-3 years and get to the latter stages and THEN maybe we can start having this conversation on whether they are up with the elite because of right now, they ain't.

You trying to sit there and tell me because you beat a washed up Chelsea, a decent Shakhtar and some unknown team and fcking Celtic that you're on the elite level? Because you own your own ground and players that play for international teams (duh, who doesn't) you're part of the elite?

Get the fck outta here with that BS.

djfawnz wrote:this fool just proved himself how "unbiased" he is. too lazy to answer with meaningful response

juventus101 wrote:In tiers its something like this in my opinion.

1. Bayern Munich
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2. Barcelona & Real Madrid
3. Manchester United, Borussia Dortmund, & Juventus.

All 6 teams are elite though.

djfawnz wrote:izzy i have a life so when i have a moment ill answer all your irrational crap

The Ostracised One wrote:

gnrfan wrote:

AbraKebabra Alacalamb wrote:How does that not make sense, please read my posts.

I'm going by what teams have came up against and how they have performed.

You're looking at this using nothing but how far teams have gotten in the CL.

Juventus drew the absolute NUMBER 1 top team in Europe. We got knocked out.

If Juventus drew Galatasaray, knocked them out and Barca got knocked out by Bayern in the last 16 it wouldn't make Juventus better than Barcelona.

How far you get is mostly down to the luck of the draw.

I'm a juve fan myself man, but going on performance dortmund would beat us quiet handily. They'd press pirlo out of the match, and our "strikeforce" wouldn't do jackshit. We need a serious infusion of quality up top before we can put our selves in this company.

Currently

Level 1 Bayern
Level 2 Dortmund
Level 3 Real Madrid Barcelona Juventus Manchester United

juventus101 wrote:In tiers its something like this in my opinion.

1. Bayern Munich
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2. Barcelona & Real Madrid
3. Manchester United, Borussia Dortmund, & Juventus.

All 6 teams are elite though.

AbraKebabra Alacalamb wrote:I get what you're saying but Buffon is World Class, Barzagli and Chiellini are too. Bonuccu is coming along nicely and Pirlo + Vidal are World Class.

Marchisio is on the brink, he needs a big game or two to shine in first.

It's our strikers and Left-wing area that is well below World-class but don't mistake that for the rest of our team.

The Ostracised One wrote:So is my tier list correct then lol

AbraKebabra Alacalamb wrote:If a Juve fan calls Bonbon world class he will get abused

juventus101 wrote:Okay, after this I will gladly change my own list. I think its something like this:

1. Bayern
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2. Dortmund
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3. Barcelona, Madrid, Juve, and United

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:

The Ostracised One wrote:So is my tier list correct then lol

Jibs I'm praising your name all over these threads.