How highly do you rate Sergio Ramos?
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Re: How highly do you rate Sergio Ramos?
Fair enough, I concede I'm not an expert here since all I have to go on is tapes of a bunch of old classic games but the Madrid bubble that our CBs live in is very real. I bet you anything they play better in different teams be it back then or in 2013.The Franchise wrote:Ok but no, they would be worse, not better. They are fortunate now if anything that the is a dearth of 9's the quality that was around in the 90's and 80's.Zealous wrote:haha obviously hyperbole on my part. My point is they would be considered better than they are nowadays. Ignore the gods part please I immediately concede I was going too far thereThe Franchise wrote:Ramos and Pepe would be gods in the 80's and 90's..what the actual fck.....
A foul is still a foul, now, the 90's or the 80's...the only difference is severity of punishment.
Plus forgetting that, Ramos is just plain garbage and seeing runs...and with all the real 9's that played back then, he would of been exposed even more by the increases quality from guys ranging from Shevchenko to Crespo and so many in between.
Plus, "gods" in the class compared to the likes Thuram, Nesta, Ayala, Desailly.......wat.
They play aggressive, so less severe punishments would be huge for them. A good player isn't as good when he's afraid he'll get hurt. I've seen Nesta commit soon horror tackles back in the day yet nowadays everyone thinks all his tackles were squeaky clean.
Don't forget playing for Madrid automatically makes Pepe and Ramos worse than they really are. They'd look much better on another team with someone else next to them covering for weaknesses.
Yes, less punishments would mean they play in more games, but I think people remember or think about the past era's differently than they actually were. I am the first to say now is too soft, but people speak as if 10-20 years ago (and older actually) a true foul wasnt a foul. The soft slight touches and clean slide tackles not allowed now for sure, but thats not what those two are doing. Pepe and Ramos are on some next stuff.
They would look better on another team? Maybe, debatable...but they wouldnt actually be better.
Part of it is that they're a bad fit. They have the same strengths and weaknesses so while their strengths are magnified their weaknesses become more obvious.
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that magnifying glass, that's something i agree with you. if we apply to all defenders, including Thiago Silva who people think is immaculate, there would not be a solid defender left in footy tbh.
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Physically excellent, especially speed-wise, a good tackler, has alot of energy, and has decent distribution. Problem is, hes a headless chicken, as in hes a dumbass when it comes to reading the game, and he has horrible positioning. Not to mention hes a hothead. Which wasnt so important when he was a RB because his energy, tackling, and having 2 centerbacks next to him would cover it up more. In conclusion, an good CB, a very good RB.
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Re: How highly do you rate Sergio Ramos?
Did I just see 'Ramos' and 'defensive God' in the same sentence?
In other news, Helder Postiga would have given Pele a run for his money, back in the day.
In other news, Helder Postiga would have given Pele a run for his money, back in the day.
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If Ramos had actually a brain he would be up there with Silva. His football IQ is a bit over Di Maria level ffs
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Ramos wasn't the best at RB. He often got beat by pure wingers.
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Ramos is pure shite
They should scan him. i don't think he has a brain.
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Titanic has sunk.
Hitler is dead.
Hitler is dead.
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Re: How highly do you rate Sergio Ramos?
Not really this time.. There is no way that second yellow is given in any other league...of course players dive in this league because of card happy refs.
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No Ramorse
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No, Ramos is a ****
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Shit player..
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Re: How highly do you rate Sergio Ramos?
RM should try a back 3 with him. Liked him better as a Fullback, honestly.
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Lord Awesome wrote:RM should try a back 3 with him. Liked him better as a Fullback, honestly.
-----Ronaldo----------Bale------
---------------Isco-------------
Marcelo------------------Carvajal
----------Alonso--Benzema-------
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----Ramos----Pepe----Varane----
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futbol wrote:Lord Awesome wrote:RM should try a back 3 with him. Liked him better as a Fullback, honestly.
-----Ronaldo----------Bale------
---------------Isco-------------
Marcelo------------------Carvajal
----------Alonso--Benzema-------
---------------------------------
----Ramos----Pepe----Varane----
I was thinking more
-------------Diego Lopez------------
---Ramos-----Varane------Pepe-----
Arbeloa---------------------Coentrao
------------Alonso------------------
-----Benzema--------Isco-----------
--Di Maria----------------Ronaldo----
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How people said this guy was WC is beyond me.
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defender with good technic and physic. lacks brain.
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no one but madrid fans said this xDjibers wrote:How people said this guy was WC is beyond me.
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Two red cards away from matching Liverpool's 19 league titles
Git in there ma son
Git in there ma son
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What I don't get is why these things always happens to Ramos, he can be standing there and move an inch and instantly turns into a card magnet .
Its like he trains in a back alley in mexico ffs.
Its like he trains in a back alley in mexico ffs.
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Lex wrote:Two red cards away from matching Liverpool's 19 league titles
Git in there ma son
hahaha touche lex
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I like Ramos... keep it up bro :-)
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Lex wrote:Two red cards away from matching Liverpool's 19 league titles
Git in there ma son
I don't get the joke
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Re: How highly do you rate Sergio Ramos?
So two of the best players the last 15 years destroying Ramos is a crazy thing? Ronaldinho destroyed everyone in his prime. Could probably find 3. division players destroy him
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