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Post by Ganso Fri 16 Dec 2011, 15:43

Marcelo's main role isnt defending,period.If he wasnt doing his job he would have gotten benched by now.Last post in here since as many people said,this is going nowhere

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Post by Doc Fri 16 Dec 2011, 15:44

jibers wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:Wait i said ill stay out of this.....

But Jibers..... Baines come on man, he is god awful lol.....Mehcelo is leagues ahead of him.

lol I was just trolling. MIght as well start throwing in names seeing as this discussion isnt going to end.

Because the conversation got lost in translation so to speak. What exactly are we arguing about? Marcelo is a bad player or a bad defender? Is it about Maldini's words as it doesn't mirror one's thoughts about Marcelo? What really are we discussing here?!
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Post by McLewis Fri 16 Dec 2011, 15:49

I'm thoroughly confused. The consensus is that Marcelo is a wing-back and not a full-back simply because he's more nuanced in his attacks than his defending?

Either way, his position still has" back" in the name, meaning he needs to maintain some type of defensive solidity and while he's done that against lesser teams who aren't really a challenge for Madrid. The real question should be: Can he defend adequately against the best widemen in the game? Both for Madrid and for Brazil.

That's his real acid test.



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Post by izzy Fri 16 Dec 2011, 15:51

EarlyPrototype wrote:Izzy not one individual from the Barcelona team can claim they owned Marcelo or that he was the reason Real lost. I am sorry, but that 2nd half bullshit is just a myth.

Never said he was the reason he lost, but to praise a player for doing poor and start spewing crap is ridiculous. They didn't need to own him becuase he left them a nice patch of grass on his side where he should have been.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Fri 16 Dec 2011, 15:52

I doubt anyone is even arguing Marcelo is great at defending. I for one am arguing is not crap at defending and only decent......

He was solid his last few games for Brazil whereas Alves has recently been getting raped down his flank and provided nothing going forward.

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Post by EarlyPrototype Fri 16 Dec 2011, 15:55

izzy26 wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:Izzy not one individual from the Barcelona team can claim they owned Marcelo or that he was the reason Real lost. I am sorry, but that 2nd half bullshit is just a myth.

Never said he was the reason he lost, but to praise a player for doing poor and start spewing crap is ridiculous. They didn't need to own him becuase he left them a nice patch of grass on his side where he should have been.

Wait, what? So now your claiming Barca used the space left behind Marcelo? lol he barely even left the LB area and never even went forward. I barely remember any Barca players including Alves taking advantage of the right hand side. But because his name is Marcelo it is automatically assumed that Barca took advantage of the weak link and attacked down the right because Marcelo was there. :facepalm:
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Post by izzy Fri 16 Dec 2011, 15:56

EarlyPrototype wrote:I doubt anyone is even arguing Marcelo is great at defending. I for one am arguing is not crap at defending and only decent......

He was solid his last few games for Brazil whereas Alves has recently been getting raped down his flank and provided nothing going forward.


:facepalm: *See Omarish*
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Post by EarlyPrototype Fri 16 Dec 2011, 15:56

izzy26 wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:I doubt anyone is even arguing Marcelo is great at defending. I for one am arguing is not crap at defending and only decent......

He was solid his last few games for Brazil whereas Alves has recently been getting raped down his flank and provided nothing going forward.


:facepalm: *See Omarish*

But I am not Omarish lol.

Edit: He shouldn't be saying he is good at defending tbh.


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Post by izzy Fri 16 Dec 2011, 15:57

EarlyPrototype wrote:
izzy26 wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:Izzy not one individual from the Barcelona team can claim they owned Marcelo or that he was the reason Real lost. I am sorry, but that 2nd half bullshit is just a myth.

Never said he was the reason he lost, but to praise a player for doing poor and start spewing crap is ridiculous. They didn't need to own him becuase he left them a nice patch of grass on his side where he should have been.

Wait, what? So now your claiming Barca used the space left behind Marcelo? lol he barely even left the LB area and never even went forward. I barely remember any Barca players including Alves taking advantage of the right hand side. But because his name is Marcelo it is automatically assumed that Barca took advantage of the weak link and attacked down the right because Marcelo was there. :facepalm:

Go watch the game again, espicially the 2nd half.
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Post by The Franchise Fri 16 Dec 2011, 15:57

Hope Maldini doesnt become Pele-ish.

First Ramos, now Marcelo?

I love him, but I dont see what he see here.

You can compare Marcelo to any leftback out there, its comparable, but I know for sure Bayern wouldnt swap Lahm for him, Liverpool fans likely wouldnt swap Enrique for him and as a Barca fan I wouldnt swap Abidal for him either...as great as he is.
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Post by izzy Fri 16 Dec 2011, 15:58

EarlyPrototype wrote:
izzy26 wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:I doubt anyone is even arguing Marcelo is great at defending. I for one am arguing is not crap at defending and only decent......

He was solid his last few games for Brazil whereas Alves has recently been getting raped down his flank and provided nothing going forward.


:facepalm: *See Omarish*

But I am not Omarish lol.

Laughing That's why I said see Omarish. Razz Twisted Evil
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Post by EarlyPrototype Fri 16 Dec 2011, 15:58

izzy26 wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:
izzy26 wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:Izzy not one individual from the Barcelona team can claim they owned Marcelo or that he was the reason Real lost. I am sorry, but that 2nd half bullshit is just a myth.

Never said he was the reason he lost, but to praise a player for doing poor and start spewing crap is ridiculous. They didn't need to own him becuase he left them a nice patch of grass on his side where he should have been.

Wait, what? So now your claiming Barca used the space left behind Marcelo? lol he barely even left the LB area and never even went forward. I barely remember any Barca players including Alves taking advantage of the right hand side. But because his name is Marcelo it is automatically assumed that Barca took advantage of the weak link and attacked down the right because Marcelo was there. :facepalm:

Go watch the game again, espicially the 2nd half.

I watched the game. I don't know if you are talking about the last 15-20 mins coz if you are then that is retarded. Your team is down 3-1 you expect one of your best attackers to not go forward?
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Post by Doc Fri 16 Dec 2011, 15:58

His natural position is wing back but since Real and Brasil doesn't play with wing backs, he's a full back which isn't much a difference really. Mclewis, his positioning is not good, I could safely say that without fear or contradiction of anyone here and he still hasn't gathered the footballing intelligence of knowing when to go forward and not to go forward.

However, his attacking capabilities covers, no, wrong word, it levels his defensive flaws some bit as he really gives a serious attacking thread on the left. And since his technical ability is pretty good for a defender, it amplifies the threat.

His defending is improving but it isn't up there with the likes of Abidal and Lahm. I seriously wish my fellow RM fans would stop calling the best attacking full back in the world and just consider he is good for Real Madrid and that is literally all that matters...
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Post by izzy Fri 16 Dec 2011, 16:03

EarlyPrototype wrote:I watched the game. I don't know if you are talking about the last 15-20 mins coz if you are then that is retarded. Your team is down 3-1 you expect one of your best attackers to not go forward?
Why would I be talking about the last 20 mins?

Are guys seeing it as, 'no one has attacked Marcelo's side in a while, he's doing a good job'? He has ZERO positional sense and...................

What the hell we doing? :facepalm:

Back on topic: He ain't the best LB. eco smile

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Post by EarlyPrototype Fri 16 Dec 2011, 16:06

izzy26 wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:I watched the game. I don't know if you are talking about the last 15-20 mins coz if you are then that is retarded. Your team is down 3-1 you expect one of your best attackers to not go forward?
Why would I be talking about the last 20 mins?

Are guys seeing it as, 'no one has attacked Marcelo's side in a while, he's doing a good job'? He has ZERO positional sense and...................

What the hell we doing? :facepalm:

Back on topic: He ain't the best LB. eco smile


I only troll when I say he is the greatest LB in football history lol.

Lahm is the only person I would swap Marcelo for tbh.

Marcelo has come leaps and bounds since 2007 and he was shit back then and it is harsh to call him still shit at defending. Still the best LB in the world going forward. Razz
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Post by Zealous Fri 16 Dec 2011, 16:09

I wouldn't swap Marcelo for Lahm, Enrique or Abidal.

The "I wouldn't swap A for B" argument doesn't really apply when rating players.
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Post by jibers Fri 16 Dec 2011, 16:09

Doc wrote:His natural position is wing back but since Real and Brasil doesn't play with wing backs, he's a full back which isn't much a difference really. Mclewis, his positioning is not good, I could safely say that without fear or contradiction of anyone here and he still hasn't gathered the footballing intelligence of knowing when to go forward and not to go forward.

However, his attacking capabilities covers, no, wrong word, it levels his defensive flaws some bit as he really gives a serious attacking thread on the left. And since his technical ability is pretty good for a defender, it amplifies the threat.

His defending is improving but it isn't up there with the likes of Abidal and Lahm. I seriously wish my fellow RM fans would stop calling the best attacking full back in the world and just consider he is good for Real Madrid and that is literally all that matters...

this. end of thread.
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Post by The Franchise Fri 16 Dec 2011, 16:12

Zealous wrote:I wouldn't swap Marcelo for Lahm, Enrique or Abidal.

The "I wouldn't swap A for B" argument doesn't really apply when rating players.

Wasnt rating him.
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Post by lenear1030 Fri 16 Dec 2011, 16:12

im convinced people dont rate him because of his afro....


really.
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Post by S Fri 16 Dec 2011, 16:19

Marcelo isnt even a full-back.

I feel his attacking prowess is hindered by playing him at LB.I think he should be playing at left wing at Real madrid.

Sell Cronaldo,play Marcelo at left wing and Coentrao at LB.You will be guaranteed better results :coffee:
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Post by guest7 Fri 16 Dec 2011, 16:21

izzy26 wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:I doubt anyone is even arguing Marcelo is great at defending. I for one am arguing is not crap at defending and only decent......

He was solid his last few games for Brazil whereas Alves has recently been getting raped down his flank and provided nothing going forward.


:facepalm: *See Omarish*

I've been saying he is solid... look through this thread

is "solid" too much? Becouse I think he is a solid defender. Solid as he can do his job, but he is not the best at it, nor great at it. But he gets the job done.
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Post by nichabr Fri 16 Dec 2011, 16:40

zanetti, lahm, criscito and cheilini among others i dont have time to think of are all better and much much more rounded...marcelo gets hyped so much simply because he come from madrid and happens to be brazilian...
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Post by Doc Fri 16 Dec 2011, 16:43

Doesn't Criscito play left wing now and I've seen Chiellni at left back and I'll leave him at CB for the foreseeable future, he's world class there.
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Post by michael1 Fri 16 Dec 2011, 16:48

This argument shouldve ended at the mention of lahm.


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