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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri May 03, 2013 12:32 am

Floyd never declines :coffee:

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Post by Rebaño Sagrado Fri May 03, 2013 2:00 am

MArtinez's defense was always overrated. He relies on being out of reach and reflexes. His reflexes have decline a bit, but he is still very mobile and intelligent.

Yes Bradley is elite.

Im not being bias if you beat the best two in your division and they are in the class of Martinez and GGG then to me at least your have reached an elite level. Just having skills doesn't make you elite. Broner is a brilliant fighter but who has he faced? Nobody. To be the best you have to beat the best.

And no he doesn't come in at 200+ I don't know were you got that from.
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Post by Abramovich Sat May 04, 2013 4:16 pm

Tim Bradley is NOT elite.
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Post by Blue Barrett Sat May 04, 2013 8:33 pm

Floyd to KO Guerrero in 3 rounds.
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Post by The Franchise Sat May 04, 2013 8:36 pm

Brad is def not elite, just because he beat a couple guys...guys got no power, no real skills...he is a tougher scrapper, nothing more.

Martinez no question is getting hit more Reb.

No Broner isnt elite either, you need skills and record..not one or the other..Chavez wouldnt really have the record, but he most certaintly dont have the skills.

I was exagerrating about 200lbs, but he comes in extradonarily heavy.
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Post by Rebaño Sagrado Sat May 04, 2013 10:50 pm

Bradley is top 10 p4p for me. He's versatile and is good at almost everything. He's a great athlete with a big heart. He is elite for me.

Yeah Martinez was untouchable back in the day. Pavlik and WIlliams never put their hands on him.

And So you're saying beating GGG and Martinez requires no skill?
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Post by RealGunner Sat May 04, 2013 11:01 pm

Floyd fighting another scrub. Career filled with fighting scrubs rofl

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Post by The Franchise Sat May 04, 2013 11:03 pm

Top 10 P4P doesnt mean elite either, im way more strict with what I call elite.

I didnt say Chavez has no skill either.



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Post by The Franchise Sat May 04, 2013 11:05 pm

Guerrero scrub? He would beat Khan inside 49 seconds.

RG pls.
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Post by izzy Sat May 04, 2013 11:05 pm

RealGunner wrote:Floyd fighting another scrub. Career filled with fighting scrubs rofl


You're so disrespectful, so disrespectful. No
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Post by RealGunner Sat May 04, 2013 11:13 pm

lmao it was to troll Dani Laughing

don't take me seriously on boxing Very Happy
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Post by RealGunner Sat May 04, 2013 11:14 pm

The Franchise wrote:Guerrero scrub? He would beat Khan inside 49 seconds.

RG pls.

U ever catch the highlights of Khan vs Diaz ?
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Post by Blue Barrett Sat May 04, 2013 11:40 pm

Floyd would put Khan to sleep in 10 secs Sad
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Post by RealGunner Sat May 04, 2013 11:44 pm

Old man Floyd wouldn't know what hit him
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sun May 05, 2013 12:04 am

Heavyweight division is so bad Laughing
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Post by dmize Sun May 05, 2013 5:48 am

Mayweather picked Guerrero apart

edit: Guerrero throwing his hands up like he won Laughing

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Post by izzy Sun May 05, 2013 5:56 am

dmize wrote:Mayweather picked Guerrero apart

edit: Guerrero throwing his hands up like he won Laughing

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rofl

That fight was a clinic.
He literally teed off on Guerrero.
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Post by Blue Barrett Sun May 05, 2013 5:58 am

LMAO GUERRERO IS A BLOODY SCRUB!
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 05, 2013 1:01 pm

Blue Barrett wrote:LMAO GUERRERO IS A BLOODY SCRUB!

Thing is he isn't, Floyd just made him look that way.

Like he has done to practically everyone he has ever faced and everyone he will ever face in the future.

Remember how he toyed with future hall of famer JMM? made him look like a kid he spared with for shits and giggles.

He's untouchable.
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Post by paddy Sun May 05, 2013 1:10 pm

Amazing performance from Floyd. He's the best around. I think the lack of buzz around this fight was telling though. Guerrero isn't a scrub by any means, but he's not exactly elite is he. I think people are tired of getting these fights that they don't really want to see. I don't expect this to crack 1 million PPV buys, which would be very poor by Floyd standards. I hope we see him get it on with Canelo Alvarez next instead of Devon Alexander or Adrien Broner

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Post by RealGunner Sun May 05, 2013 1:37 pm

How many round did he finish the fight in ?

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Post by The Franchise Sun May 05, 2013 4:41 pm

RealGunner wrote:lmao it was to troll Dani Laughing

don't take me seriously on boxing Very Happy

I know, just had to retroll you lol

And nah, still aint caught Khan highlights.

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Post by Blue Barrett Sun May 05, 2013 6:21 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Blue Barrett wrote:LMAO GUERRERO IS A BLOODY SCRUB!

Thing is he isn't, Floyd just made him look that way.

Like he has done to practically everyone he has ever faced and everyone he will ever face in the future.

Remember how he toyed with future hall of famer JMM? made him look like a kid he spared with for shits and giggles.

He's untouchable.
Floyd's defensive prowess is just a joy to watch! With such outstanding defense he could fight longer than your average boxer.

Corrales and De La Hoya are still the closest I've seen him get to losing.
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Post by The Franchise Sun May 05, 2013 6:33 pm

Dont think De La Hoya was even close, he won no more than 3 rounds. Zab Judah gave him more problems.

Carrales got destroyed, I think you mean Castillo?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon May 06, 2013 5:26 pm

What fights are left out there that we could consider credible for Floyd to extend his legacy?

I really don't see any fights out there that are credible at 147 or 154. At 147 there is nothing for him which could extend his legacy and at 154 what is there? Maybe Saul Alvarez but even that i feel would be a comfortable victory for Floyd maybe in 2 years it might be closer but even so i don't see that as a fight that extends his legacy.

I think Floyd is at a similar stage to Sugar Ray Leonard in his career where he has to do something outside the box to further his legacy.

Continuing to beat everyone at 147 and 154 aint going to cut it for me, for Floyd to take his legacy to the next level i think he has to move to 160 and take out the World Champ at that weight.

For some reason people don't respect undefeated streaks in boxing, Marciano and Calzaghe both have their critics. Those who think outside the box and take risks are usually remembered with higher esteem.

As for Pacquaio he's far too aggressive and defensively flawed to beat Floyd not to mention his jab is nowhere near good enough.

That would extend Floyd's legacy purely due to the hype involved but it would never happen because Arum is a dickhead.

I'm intrigued to see what he does next because he's really at the Michael Jordan stage now where you wonder what he can do to take it further and how much further he will take it.
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Post by El Gunner Mon May 06, 2013 5:54 pm

@Mole, Money vs Pacman aint never going to happen now... Even if it does, Money will win it easily because Pac's lost it. If it happened, let's say 3 or 4 years ago I think Pac would've beaten Money.

Just a shame we never got to see it. And as for Money's unbeaten record, well in his weight class atm I can't see anybody beating him. I hope he gets beaten though, will never hear the end of it from Mayweather fans if he stays unbeaten.
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