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Post by Lex Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:51 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:So then Benzema had a better season than Villa last season because he scored more than Villa?
More goals, more assists, more consistent performances

But that doesn't mean anything in the grander scheme of things, obviously

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Post by guest7 Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:51 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:
omarish wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:What can Xavi do that Ozil can't?
Control the tempo of the game

What can Kaka do that Pastore can't?
Pace? (pre injury Kaka)

is that the only useless argument here?

Bale can do everything better than Walcott.

Only thing Walcott has better is a tad bit more pace.

I think it's a valid argument, Walcott beats Bale at everything, pace, dribbling, shooting, I can go on all day

It is a shit argument. Every player can cross, every player can shoot. Doesn't mean walcott can't cross or shoot, just that..................Bale is better at everything crosses, shooting, set pieces, passing, work rate etc.. I can go on all day.

I wish you saw Walcott and Bale play more than just this game. Bales shooting and passing isn't better than Walcott.....
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Post by RealGunner Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:53 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:
RealGunner wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:What can Xavi do that Ozil can't?

What can Kaka do that Pastore can't?

is that the only useless argument here?

Bale can do everything better than Walcott.

Only thing Walcott has better is a tad bit more pace.

Is that why Walcott scores more then bale ? Or assists more then bale ?

So then Benzema had a better season than Villa last season because he scored more than Villa?

dont change the topic or bring other players in just cause it suits ur argument. You said Bale can do everything better then walcott

Bale has NEVER outscored theo in his career, So where does that little argument of yours comes from ?
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Post by B-Mac Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:54 pm

Lex wrote:Oh ok, so anyone who picks Walcott is a biased Arsenal fan (Immaculate_Mole) whilst everyone who picks Bale is an unbiased, well-to-do football fan

no you can pick whoever you like but fact is your arguments of what can bale do better then walcott can be said the same as what can walcott do better then bale?....most people are talking like bale isn't a top winger and not giving him his credit
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Post by EarlyPrototype Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:55 pm

RealGunner wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:
RealGunner wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:What can Xavi do that Ozil can't?

What can Kaka do that Pastore can't?

is that the only useless argument here?

Bale can do everything better than Walcott.

Only thing Walcott has better is a tad bit more pace.

Is that why Walcott scores more then bale ? Or assists more then bale ?

So then Benzema had a better season than Villa last season because he scored more than Villa?

dont change the topic or bring other players in just cause it suits ur argument. You said Bale can do everything better then walcott

Bale has NEVER outscored theo in his career, So where does that little argument of yours comes from ?

It means that stats don't mean everything.

Bale is better than Walcott in all the things I mentioned simply from watching them both play. I don't have anything against walcott simply imo I think Bale outclasses him in most things.
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Post by Lex Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:55 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:Bale is better at everything crosses, shooting, set pieces, passing, work rate etc.. I can go on all day.
But the statistics prove you wrong without doubt

Better shooting, yet Walcott had more goals

Better crosses/passes, yet Walcott had more assists

Better work-rate, yet Walcott had a better overall season last season

Just does......not......compute.....
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Post by B-Mac Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:56 pm

Lex wrote:
B-Mac MUFC wrote:he played in a stronger side last year ffs.....Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie.....or Crouch...... :facepalm:
Where were VDV, Modric, Defoe, Gallas during all of last season?

defoe and gallas....you wanna bring them in a discussion with Fabregas Nasri and Van Persie....really?....REALLY! lol i thought you rated your players higher then that
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Post by EarlyPrototype Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:57 pm

omarish wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:
omarish wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:What can Xavi do that Ozil can't?
Control the tempo of the game

What can Kaka do that Pastore can't?
Pace? (pre injury Kaka)

is that the only useless argument here?

Bale can do everything better than Walcott.

Only thing Walcott has better is a tad bit more pace.

I think it's a valid argument, Walcott beats Bale at everything, pace, dribbling, shooting, I can go on all day

It is a shit argument. Every player can cross, every player can shoot. Doesn't mean walcott can't cross or shoot, just that..................Bale is better at everything crosses, shooting, set pieces, passing, work rate etc.. I can go on all day.

I wish you saw Walcott and Bale play more than just this game. Bales shooting and passing isn't better than Walcott.....

lool, it just shows who has seen them play once.

In walcott's entire career he has always been criticized for not being able to pick out the right pass or not being able to make the right decision and is finishing is meh. His execution is poor.
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Post by RealGunner Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:58 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:
RealGunner wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:
RealGunner wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:What can Xavi do that Ozil can't?

What can Kaka do that Pastore can't?

is that the only useless argument here?

Bale can do everything better than Walcott.

Only thing Walcott has better is a tad bit more pace.

Is that why Walcott scores more then bale ? Or assists more then bale ?

So then Benzema had a better season than Villa last season because he scored more than Villa?

dont change the topic or bring other players in just cause it suits ur argument. You said Bale can do everything better then walcott

Bale has NEVER outscored theo in his career, So where does that little argument of yours comes from ?

It means that stats don't mean everything.

Bale is better than Walcott in all the things I mentioned simply from watching them both play. I don't have anything against walcott simply imo I think Bale outclasses him in most things.

so you agree its YOUR OPINION and not a fact.

thanks for clearing that
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Post by guest7 Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:58 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:
omarish wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:
omarish wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:What can Xavi do that Ozil can't?
Control the tempo of the game

What can Kaka do that Pastore can't?
Pace? (pre injury Kaka)

is that the only useless argument here?

Bale can do everything better than Walcott.

Only thing Walcott has better is a tad bit more pace.

I think it's a valid argument, Walcott beats Bale at everything, pace, dribbling, shooting, I can go on all day

It is a shit argument. Every player can cross, every player can shoot. Doesn't mean walcott can't cross or shoot, just that..................Bale is better at everything crosses, shooting, set pieces, passing, work rate etc.. I can go on all day.

I wish you saw Walcott and Bale play more than just this game. Bales shooting and passing isn't better than Walcott.....

lool, it just shows who has seen them play once.

In walcott's entire career he has always been criticized for not being able to pick out the right pass or not being able to make the right decision and is finishing is meh. His execution is poor.

And Bales whole career is the San Siro game LOL. it was against an injured Maicon too Laughing

Jog on son
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Post by B-Mac Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:59 pm

you all do realize that tottenham and arsenal play different formations and bale and walcott have different roles right?

bale hugs the touchline a lot more....doesn't get as central as Walcott does...which is why stats cannot win this arguement.
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Post by RealGunner Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:00 pm

B-Mac MUFC wrote:
Lex wrote:
B-Mac MUFC wrote:he played in a stronger side last year ffs.....Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie.....or Crouch...... :facepalm:
Where were VDV, Modric, Defoe, Gallas during all of last season?

defoe and gallas....you wanna bring them in a discussion with Fabregas Nasri and Van Persie....really?....REALLY! lol i thought you rated your players higher then that

How does that even matter ?

David Villa at Valencia was one of the best strikers in the world, better then the likes of Rooney, Ibra etc who were playing with better players and bigger clubs...
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Post by EarlyPrototype Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:00 pm

Lex wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:Bale is better at everything crosses, shooting, set pieces, passing, work rate etc.. I can go on all day.
But the statistics prove you wrong without doubt

Better shooting, yet Walcott had more goals

Better crosses/passes, yet Walcott had more assists

Better work-rate, yet Walcott had a better overall season last season

Just does......not......compute.....

Bale plays 90% of his game on the left wing out wide and lives by crossing the ball in. Where as Walcott spends much more time in the area.

Walcott can just pass the ball to RVP where he can finish from anywhere....... where as Crouch can't do shit to save his life.

What is Walcott's shot to goal ratio? Goals don't mean anything if Walcott shoots 5 times a game and scores once and Bale shoots 3 times a game and scores does that mean Walcott has better finishing?

Also I don't see how Walcott had a better season and I don't see how having a better season makes you more hard working? scratch
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Post by Lex Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:00 pm

B-Mac MUFC wrote:defoe and gallas....you wanna bring them in a discussion with Fabregas Nasri and Van Persie....really?....REALLY! lol i thought you rated your players higher then that
Fabregas was injured for half the season along with RVP and Nasri had a good month

I see you didn't mention Modric or VDV though. Why is that?
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Post by RealGunner Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:01 pm

B-Mac MUFC wrote:you all do realize that tottenham and arsenal play different formations and bale and walcott have different roles right?

bale hugs the touchline a lot more....doesn't get as central as Walcott does...which is why stats cannot win this arguement.

so that means Bale should be assisting more right ?
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Post by EarlyPrototype Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:02 pm

omarish wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:
omarish wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:
omarish wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:What can Xavi do that Ozil can't?
Control the tempo of the game

What can Kaka do that Pastore can't?
Pace? (pre injury Kaka)

is that the only useless argument here?

Bale can do everything better than Walcott.

Only thing Walcott has better is a tad bit more pace.

I think it's a valid argument, Walcott beats Bale at everything, pace, dribbling, shooting, I can go on all day

It is a shit argument. Every player can cross, every player can shoot. Doesn't mean walcott can't cross or shoot, just that..................Bale is better at everything crosses, shooting, set pieces, passing, work rate etc.. I can go on all day.

I wish you saw Walcott and Bale play more than just this game. Bales shooting and passing isn't better than Walcott.....

lool, it just shows who has seen them play once.

In walcott's entire career he has always been criticized for not being able to pick out the right pass or not being able to make the right decision and is finishing is meh. His execution is poor.

And Bales whole career is the San Siro game LOL. it was against an injured Maicon too Laughing

Jog on son

That is the only game you have seen Tottenham play lmao (apart from Real vs Spurs).

Oh and Bale ripped apart Arsenal last season........ where was Walcott? jog on mate.
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Post by B-Mac Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:04 pm

RealGunner wrote:
B-Mac MUFC wrote:you all do realize that tottenham and arsenal play different formations and bale and walcott have different roles right?

bale hugs the touchline a lot more....doesn't get as central as Walcott does...which is why stats cannot win this arguement.

so that means Bale should be assisting more right ?

not with peter crouch, jermaine defoe and roman Pavlyuchenko as your targets no
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Post by Lex Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:05 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:Bale plays 90% of his game on the left wing out wide and lives by crossing the ball in. Where as Walcott spends much more time in the area
No he doesn't

EarlyPrototype wrote:Walcott can just pass the ball to RVP where he can finish from anywhere
You are aware RVP missed most of last season, right? Walcott had to pass to Bendtner and Chamakh, almost as bad as Crouch

EarlyPrototype wrote:What is Walcott's shot to goal ratio?
Clutching at thin straws here. C.Ronaldo's shoot-to-goal ratio is probably the worst in the world, does that mean anything though?

EarlyPrototype wrote:Also I don't see how Walcott had a better season and I don't see how having a better season makes you more hard working? scratch
You get out of life what you put in to it. That's why Rooney is doing better than Berbatov
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Post by Lex Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:06 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:Bale ripped apart Arsenal last season........ where was Walcott? jog on mate.
'Gratz, you just proved you don't even watch Bale play.

Busted
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Post by EarlyPrototype Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:06 pm

RealGunner wrote:
B-Mac MUFC wrote:you all do realize that tottenham and arsenal play different formations and bale and walcott have different roles right?

bale hugs the touchline a lot more....doesn't get as central as Walcott does...which is why stats cannot win this arguement.

so that means Bale should be assisting more right ?

Crouch has 34 games and 4 goals scored. Bale get more assists by crossing to this guy? Every one of bales assists to Crouch should be worth 10 lol.
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Post by guest7 Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:07 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:
omarish wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:
omarish wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:
omarish wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:What can Xavi do that Ozil can't?
Control the tempo of the game

What can Kaka do that Pastore can't?
Pace? (pre injury Kaka)

is that the only useless argument here?

Bale can do everything better than Walcott.

Only thing Walcott has better is a tad bit more pace.

I think it's a valid argument, Walcott beats Bale at everything, pace, dribbling, shooting, I can go on all day

It is a shit argument. Every player can cross, every player can shoot. Doesn't mean walcott can't cross or shoot, just that..................Bale is better at everything crosses, shooting, set pieces, passing, work rate etc.. I can go on all day.

I wish you saw Walcott and Bale play more than just this game. Bales shooting and passing isn't better than Walcott.....

lool, it just shows who has seen them play once.

In walcott's entire career he has always been criticized for not being able to pick out the right pass or not being able to make the right decision and is finishing is meh. His execution is poor.

And Bales whole career is the San Siro game LOL. it was against an injured Maicon too Laughing

Jog on son

That is the only game you have seen Tottenham play lmao (apart from Real vs Spurs).

Oh and Bale ripped apart Arsenal last season........ where was Walcott? jog on mate.

...... bale ripped who?????????? Laughing
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Post by EarlyPrototype Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:07 pm

Lex wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:Bale ripped apart Arsenal last season........ where was Walcott? jog on mate.
'Gratz, you just proved you don't even watch Bale play.

Busted

Erm Bale tore apart Arsenal last season mate. I am not talking about last game.
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Post by Vibe Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:08 pm

This is a silly discussion.

Bale is a pure winger,purest in the world ATM probably,Walcott is a strikerish type.Not sure where did you get he's a lousy finisher and executor,whoever said that.Walcott is a good finisher IMO,although not the best decision maker.

Bale truly is a better crosser and has a better long rage shot,but Walcott has a better near range shot.His are always precise,in the corner of the net.Especially during the start of last season before the injury you could see that.
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Post by Lex Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:09 pm

Why are people talking about Crouch like he was the only Tottenham player available to cross to? Where were VDV? Modric? Lennon? Defoe?

If our of the other nine players on the pitch, Crouch was the only person bale could pinpoint for a cross, it just proves his crossing is even worse than i thought and shouldn't be mentioned as a plus when compared to Walcott
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Post by B-Mac Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:09 pm

Lex wrote:
B-Mac MUFC wrote:defoe and gallas....you wanna bring them in a discussion with Fabregas Nasri and Van Persie....really?....REALLY! lol i thought you rated your players higher then that
Fabregas was injured for half the season along with RVP and Nasri had a good month

I see you didn't mention Modric or VDV though. Why is that?

because VDV played half a season with them last year and

ok so now we have Modric to support Bale vs Fabregas Nasri Van Persie to support Walcott, even that donkey Arshavin is better then anyone else Tottenham had
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Post by Albiceleste Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:10 pm

Lex wrote:everyone who picks Bale is an unbiased, well-to-do football fan
Who also happens to be humble & respectful. :coffee:

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