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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:55 pm

Laporta: "I would like to thank Italy, if Guardiola had never gone there then he would have never learned as much about tactics before coming here" (paraphrased)

Clearly, Italy is behind Guardiola's success. Amirite? They keep on producing the best managers...
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Post by VivaStPauli Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:59 pm

The cause of Guardiolas success?

Xaviesta + Messi + couple hundred million war chest. Not even Steve McClaren could suck with that squad.
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Post by Ali Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:02 am

VivaStPauli wrote:The cause of Guardiolas success?

Xaviesta + Messi + couple hundred million war chest. Not even Steve McClaren could suck with that squad.

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Post by the xcx Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:18 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Laporta: "I would like to thank Italy, if Guardiola had never gone there then he would have never learned as much about tactics before coming here" (paraphrased)

Clearly, Italy is behind Guardiola's success. Amirite? They keep on producing the best managers...
He benefits the success he has from the players and from UEFA.
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:30 am

While it may be his tutelage from Italia, the simple fact of the reason is Guardiola won because.........

He is guardiola and as much as haters try to take that away from him, its because of his intelligence, vision, adeptness and leadership that Barca has won all that they won.

Funny that RM fans are talking about Barca and UEFA considering all the times Mou has gotten lucky FAR many times then Guardiola. Hilarious.
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Post by The Madrid One Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:32 am

if ovrebo would have penalized pique for the handball barca would have never won the cl,super cup, or cwc. Sad

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Post by the xcx Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:33 am

Arquitecto wrote:While it may be his tutelage from Italia, the simple fact of the reason is Guardiola won because.........

He is guardiola and as much as haters try to take that away from him, its because of his intelligence, vision, adeptness and leadership that Barca has won all that they won.

Funny that RM fans are talking about Barca and UEFA considering all the times Mou has gotten lucky FAR many times then Guardiola. Hilarious.
well luck is part of being a football coach, besides Mou has been successful in 4 different countries.
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Post by the xcx Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:34 am

The Madrid One wrote:if ovrebo would have penalized pique for the handball barca would have never won the cl,super cup, or cwc. Sad

Not to mention, they wouldnt won a sextuple either.
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:34 am

The xcx wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:While it may be his tutelage from Italia, the simple fact of the reason is Guardiola won because.........

He is guardiola and as much as haters try to take that away from him, its because of his intelligence, vision, adeptness and leadership that Barca has won all that they won.

Funny that RM fans are talking about Barca and UEFA considering all the times Mou has gotten lucky FAR many times then Guardiola. Hilarious.
well luck is part of being a football coach, besides Mou has been successful in 4 different countries.

Not talking about luck, I'm talking about how he has gotten away with instances in a match worse then the semi final classico controversy.

His hypocrisy is laughable.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:37 am

The Madrid One wrote:if ovrebo would have penalized pique for the handball barca would have never won the cl,super cup, or cwc. Sad


Same could be said for Mou at Porto and at Inter aswell he had decisions go his way( and iam not talking about Barca he had decisions go his way against Chelsea and in the group stage which led to them qualifying)

And probably every great coach in history, seriously stfu and stop bringing it up.

They were lucky we get it Rolling Eyes
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Post by awalezelin Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:43 am

VivaStPauli wrote:The cause of Guardiolas success?

Xaviesta + Messi + couple hundred million war chest. Not even Steve McClaren could suck with that squad.

is rijkaard as successful as guardiola?
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Post by Albiceleste Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:51 am

The xcx wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:Laporta: "I would like to thank Italy, if Guardiola had never gone there then he would have never learned as much about tactics before coming here" (paraphrased)

Clearly, Italy is behind Guardiola's success. Amirite? They keep on producing the best managers...
He benefits the success he has from the players and from UEFA.
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Post by Albiceleste Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:52 am

The Madrid One wrote:if ovrebo would have penalized pique for the handball barca would have never won the cl,super cup, or cwc. Sad

If Porto didn't bribe the refs Mourinho wouldn't have won the champion's league with Porto and he probably wouldn't have been at fake madrid or chelski.

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Post by harhar11 Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:54 am

Lionel Messi wrote:
The Madrid One wrote:if ovrebo would have penalized pique for the handball barca would have never won the cl,super cup, or cwc. Sad

If Porto didn't bribe the refs Mourinho wouldn't have won the champion's league with Porto and he probably wouldn't have been at fake madrid or chelski.

that reminds me what ever happend to the accusation that porto bribed the referee in the portugese league when mourinho was there.

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Post by Albiceleste Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:55 am

harhar11 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:
The Madrid One wrote:if ovrebo would have penalized pique for the handball barca would have never won the cl,super cup, or cwc. Sad

If Porto didn't bribe the refs Mourinho wouldn't have won the champion's league with Porto and he probably wouldn't have been at fake madrid or chelski.

that reminds me what ever happend to the accusation that porto bribed the referee in the portugese league when mourinho was there.
The referee came out and admitted to it, and they got kicked out of the Champions League

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/jun/05/europeanfootball

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Post by harhar11 Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:58 am

Lionel Messi wrote:
harhar11 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:
The Madrid One wrote:if ovrebo would have penalized pique for the handball barca would have never won the cl,super cup, or cwc. Sad

If Porto didn't bribe the refs Mourinho wouldn't have won the champion's league with Porto and he probably wouldn't have been at fake madrid or chelski.

that reminds me what ever happend to the accusation that porto bribed the referee in the portugese league when mourinho was there.
The referee came out and admitted to it, and they got kicked out of the Champions League

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/jun/05/europeanfootball

Porto decided not to appeal against the decision made by the disciplinary commission of the Professional Portuguese Football League because they were comfortably ahead in the league table and the six points would not affect their final position,
Laughing what a punishment, atleast they got no CL football

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Post by the xcx Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:59 am

Lionel Messi wrote:
The Madrid One wrote:if ovrebo would have penalized pique for the handball barca would have never won the cl,super cup, or cwc. Sad

If Porto didn't bribe the refs Mourinho wouldn't have won the champion's league with Porto and he probably wouldn't have been at fake madrid or chelski.

harhar11 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:
The Madrid One wrote:if ovrebo would have penalized pique for the handball barca would have never won the cl,super cup, or cwc. Sad

If Porto didn't bribe the refs Mourinho wouldn't have won the champion's league with Porto and he probably wouldn't have been at fake madrid or chelski.

that reminds me what ever happend to the accusation that porto bribed the referee in the portugese league when mourinho was there.
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Post by B-Mac Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:21 am

cause for his success. doesn't play Chivas Guadalajara every weekend :coffee:
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Post by windkick Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:33 am

This forum is starting to suck, a honest question and what could of been a well thought out discussion turns in to immediate pointing of instances of "luck", UEFA conspiracies, cheating and "wouldn't of won if" instead of giving any form of praise to a very successful manger or even discussing the topic itself
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Post by BeautifulGame Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:35 am

The Madrid One wrote:if ovrebo would have penalized pique for the handball barca would have never won the cl,super cup, or cwc. Sad


If Overbo wasn't stupid enough give Abidal a red card for Anelka dive there would have been no Pique handball incident in the first place.
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Post by the xcx Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:41 am

windkick wrote:This forum is starting to suck, a honest question and what could of been a well thought out discussion turns in to immediate pointing of instances of "luck", UEFA conspiracies, cheating and "wouldn't of won if" instead of giving any form of praise to a very successful manger or even discussing the topic itself
alright, lucks, conspiracies and cheatings aside, how is he successful then? It must be benefitting from the players, because there are quite a talented ones in barca. But in the end, dosent every successful manager benefit some part from the players? Pep isint known as tactical genius now is he?
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:43 am

Any half decent manager could do well with Barcelona. Plus Guardiola's transfers have been terrible at many time, but because he's at Barcelona he gets away with it. He won't at any other club...

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