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Post by RealGunner Sat 04 Jul 2020, 20:27

Spanish Pep Guardiola

Elite manager in the making

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Post by urbaNRoots Sat 04 Jul 2020, 20:39

We've been winning games but the football is awful right now. Let's hope the beautiful football comes back soon.
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Post by Jay29 Sat 04 Jul 2020, 20:45

Babysteps. Need better centre backs and midfielders before we can start demanding more attractive football again.

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Post by El Gunner Sat 04 Jul 2020, 20:59

^^what Jay said.

I don't mind the pragmatic approach at all. For the longest time we actually look solid defensively granted no one makes silly mistakes.
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Post by danyjr Sun 05 Jul 2020, 01:18

RealGunner wrote:Spanish Pep Guardiola

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You had less possession than Wolves fam.

His football is anything but Guardiola like.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed 08 Jul 2020, 00:14

How long does he have?
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Post by danyjr Wed 08 Jul 2020, 00:37

I think Arsenal should give him a full season. There are glimpses of a decent manager in him, although by no means he will ever be special. The best he could ever hope to get is Emery levels of success which is not bad all things considered.

Good ebening.
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Post by El Gunner Wed 08 Jul 2020, 03:58

Mr Nick09 wrote:How long does he have?

long enough, he just needs to continue improving our play for next season and hopefully that'll earn us a CL spot, and then he's here for the long run.
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Post by El Gunner Sat 18 Jul 2020, 23:15

imagine if he gets the full backing from the board and gets the players he wants.

don't mean to overreact, but he could become a Simeone-Pep hybrid of a manager
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat 18 Jul 2020, 23:23

El Gunner wrote:imagine if he gets the full backing from the board and gets the players he wants.

don't mean to overreact, but he could become a Simeone-Pep hybrid of a manager


you've just overreacted

if you really didn't mean to you should have done a better job instead of just doing it after a comma and a but

also, what players does he want?
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Post by RealGunner Sat 18 Jul 2020, 23:29

He is doing the best he can with the current players. I doubt he wants to play like Simeone.
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Post by El Gunner Sat 18 Jul 2020, 23:46

the way he has been playing lately, shows you he can put in a defensive masterclass (a la Simeone) if and whenever the team needs to, that's what i meant. It's good for a coach to be diverse.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat 18 Jul 2020, 23:57

defensive masterclasses are not needed at a top club

at a top club, you need to be able to be a dominant flat track bully

big game heroics are not as important as winning all games against smaller teams
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Post by El Gunner Sun 19 Jul 2020, 00:19

work in progress
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Post by Glory Sun 19 Jul 2020, 17:43

Glad he is doing well. With Arteta, Lampard and Ole we have got 3 managers who are so passionate towards their respective clubs. Proper fans of their clubs. And its no wonder they are prioritizing their clubs long term future over short term glory hunters like Moaninho.

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Post by Nishankly Sun 19 Jul 2020, 18:50

Would recommend Arsenal fans to calm down lol
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Post by Myesyats Sun 19 Jul 2020, 19:42

didnt they park the bus all game and get lucky? wtf is going on
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Post by El Gunner Sun 19 Jul 2020, 19:52

got lucky? yea lol you didn't watch the game obviously
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Post by danyjr Sun 19 Jul 2020, 21:20

Myesyats wrote:didnt they park the bus all game and get lucky? wtf is going on
They played like a League Two team against Liverpool and City. Underdog mentality. Park the bus. Sub 30% possession. We get it, it works sometimes. More often than not however, it doesn't work.

Watch them flop again next week against an average team.
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Post by Helmer Mon 20 Jul 2020, 15:06

Sometimes there is too much overreaction among the fans whenever a new manager either fails initially or starts winning games suddenly. There is no birth right of any club to succeed or win trophies. All you can do is maximise your chances by doing the right things. I dont think Arteta needs to finish in top 4 this season / win against Liverpool-City to be successful; other clubs are certainly not sleeping or just sitting-waiting for Arsenal to be invincibles again Laughing

You need a plan and strategy in all sections of a club, then keep improvising as you learn while executing that plan. Arteta is doing ok so far and only time will tell where he will take the club. But the current strategy where the club seem to be using mix of academy talents, shrewd signings like Tierney (although he costed double or more than Robertson but still), some WC in the form of Auba, then Ceballos also seem to be a good mixture to start with for now.

Just imagine what many of you had said about Klopp at Liverpool in the beginning Laughing

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Post by danyjr Tue 21 Jul 2020, 23:09

danyjr wrote:
Myesyats wrote:didnt they park the bus all game and get lucky? wtf is going on
They played like a League Two team against Liverpool and City. Underdog mentality. Park the bus. Sub 30% possession. We get it, it works sometimes. More often than not however, it doesn't work.

Watch them flop again next week against an average team.
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Definitely a Simeone-Pep hybrid doe.
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Post by urbaNRoots Tue 21 Jul 2020, 23:12

Not sure what to think of him.

On one hand, he hasn't had a transfer window yet to make a team of his own, on the other hand no matter what team Arsenal have, it can't be bad enough to have 0 shots on target against Aston Villa.
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Post by Helmer Tue 21 Jul 2020, 23:20

urbaNRoots wrote:Not sure what to think of him.

On one hand, he hasn't had a transfer window yet to make a team of his own, on the other hand no matter what team Arsenal have, it can't be bad enough to have 0 shots on target against Aston Villa.
I just watched the last 20 mins of the game and I was thinking what kind of training Arsenal do before a game. It cant be so bad that players had no clue where to make a run or where to go receive the ball. I have seen Arsenal playing much better in such situations.

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Post by El Gunner Tue 21 Jul 2020, 23:38

danyjr wrote:
danyjr wrote:
Myesyats wrote:didnt they park the bus all game and get lucky? wtf is going on
They played like a League Two team against Liverpool and City. Underdog mentality. Park the bus. Sub 30% possession. We get it, it works sometimes. More often than not however, it doesn't work.

Watch them flop again next week against an average team.
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Definitely a Simeone-Pep hybrid doe.

completely inconsequential game lol, not surprised at all by the result.

like i said in that same post above, the owners will have to come through with the money because we still don't have the right players, can't right off that performance against Man City just because we came up dross in a dross season with mostly still dross players in a game where our league season is over.
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Post by Jay29 Tue 21 Jul 2020, 23:43

The team is dumb.

Dumb teams can defend in numbers and fluke wins against vastly superior opposition but ask them to break down a defensive team themselves and they'll have no idea.

Maybe Arteta has the best attacking scheme going, but it ain't doing shit with these players.

I mean, what is he going to do with a midfield who barely average more than 1 key pass per game? With crap wingers?

If you gave Marcelo Bielsa this squad he'd resign in a week.

Arteta is a rookie, on top of that. He'll make mistakes. The players can't or won't bail him out every time.

Yet we're looking at a guy who aspires to attacking football, having to play a defensive 343 because his options are so limited.

It's like the Ole situation at United. Played like crap until Fernandes came in. Now they look good.

Arsenal need a Fernandes like signing urgently.

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Post by RealGunner Tue 21 Jul 2020, 23:56

Need to sell the parasite which is Ozil first.

Then we need a Marquee midfield signing. Partey is good but we need a creative midfielder.
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