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Post by Jay29 on Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:29 pm

Rumour updates:

Willian - Just awaiting official confirmation, has said goodbye to Chelsea.

Aubameyang - Seems he'll extend? No new updates.

Maitland-Niles - Interest from two unnamed PL teams and a Bundesliga club.

Lacazette - Some interest from Juventus; Arsenal could be interested in a swap or sale for right price.

Coutinho - Has gone cold. Sources in Spain say no interest from Arsenal. The Athletic says Arsenal currently not looking for a deal.

Partey - Still considered a top target for the club but no new updates.

Gabriel - Reportedly has offers from Arsenal, Everton, Man Utd and Napoli; expected to make his decision soon.

Ceballos - Nothing new.

Ozil - Nothing new.

Guendouzi - Suggestion that PSG might be interested, but links are tentative.

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Post by Sina on Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:18 pm

Gabriel
Partey
Willian
New CF(Mobile target man type)
Auba new deal
Ceballos staying
+Saliba arriving

Out
Laca
Guendouzi
Torreira
+two or three center backs

That would be a good window
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Post by El Gunner on Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:41 pm

Maitland-Niles - Interest from two unnamed PL teams and a Bundesliga club.
i've read Spurs and Chelsea hmm
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Post by mani88 on Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:12 pm

Ins (approx 90m)
Partey 45m
Willian free
Gabriel 25m
Sarr free
Coutinho loan fee 8m
Ceballos loan fee 5m

Outs Approx 135m
Lacazette 30m
Torriera 30m
Guendouzi 30m
Kolasinac 8m
Sokratis 5m
AMN 30m
Holding loan fee 1m
Chamber loan fee 1m
Mkhitaryan 5m



Martinelli injured
Mustafi injured
Ozil Fu**ed
I would prefer if we can find a player who can fill in the CM/AM slot so that effective rotation can be made without compromising starting 11 quality.
Now this would be a transfer window. But may be I am dreaming too much due to the pandemic Sleep


Edit: Just read that RM doesnt want to loan Dani. So Aouar/Doucoure/pellegrini type player will be needed or may be keeping AMN would also help.

Martinelli expected to be back around the turn of the year.


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Post by El Gunner on Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:32 pm

how severe is Martinelli's injury?
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Post by RealGunner on Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:09 pm

back in december properly i think
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Post by RealGunner on Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:09 pm

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Post by Eman on Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:11 pm

I like Torreira but with his injury record, how he clearly does want to play in Italy and him no longer being first-choice in CM, that move does make a lot of sense. If the possible scenario unfolds where we lose Torreira, Guendouzi, Mkhitaryan, Elneny, Maitland-Niles, Ozil, and we do not get Ceballos back this summer, we will need a lot of cover in CM and Diawara would help with that.

On Ozil, he came out today arguing that he has been unfairly painted as a villain for not taking a pay cut because he didn't know where the money was going to go and he has a lot of personal financial commitments, mainly to charitable organizations:
https://www.espn.com/soccer/arsenal/story/4158640/arsenals-ozil-people-have-been-trying-to-destroy-me-for-two-years

Honestly, I do call BS on a lot of what he's saying. He says that the club didn't provide transparency but how could they have when they didn't know the full extent of how much money they'd lose by the end of the pandemic? The club reasonably also didn't know who it would be going after in the summer transfer window because it depended on our playing results too. He also says that he has a baby now...last time I checked, it doesn't cost 18.2M per year to raise one child.

My biggest issue with his stance is that he's acting like it is Arsenal's responsibility to fund his personal financial choices, when it isn't. Arsenal is a financially restricted team that is trying desperately to get back to the top, and it is not unethical of them not to throw money at whatever causes Mesut Ozil deems worthy. Ozil is not a bad person and wants to do good things with the money that Arsenal contracted to pay him, but he's bleeding us dry regardless of his intent.

It is clear that Mesut does not want to leave Arsenal, despite seemingly knowing that he is not going to play anymore, so I think the club needs to do one of the following:

1) Say to Ozil that we are going to accept any bid for him from any club so that he can essentially negotiate terms with anybody as if he's a free agent and then can go for free.

If he says that he will not leave no matter what...

2) Say okay, go out and find a club that you want to play for and negotiate terms with them. Then, come back to us with what they are willing to pay you and we will pay you the difference between that amount and what we still owe you on your contract to cancel your contract and allow you to join them for free. This way, Ozil gets his money (with a portion up front), he gets to actually play games next season, and we save millions. If he loves London so much, he can start his search with the smaller clubs in London like Fulham, West Ham, Spurs, etc.
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Post by Jay29 on Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:00 pm

If we're being fair to Ozil, the players took a paycut on the assurances that no staff at the club would lose their jobs. Since then there have been 55 redundancies. His caution has been vindicated to some extent. The players were angered when those redundancies were announced.

Moreover, Ozil has received the brunt of criticism for everything because of his salary. The club fucked up by giving him that salary and now they're trying everything to make themselves the victims. I'd be annoyed with the club's higher ups as well if I were in his position.

His position is strong because the club can't afford to pay him off. He can sit on that final year if he wants and then go to Tukery or America afterwards. As long as he's fulfilling his contractual.obligations he can do what he likes.

That's bad for the club, but the club brought this on themselves. Not only by giving him so much money, but choosing a manager who had no desire to use him. If you've got an AM in big money you need to get the best out of, then a manager who wants his AM to do everything but create was surely a poor choice

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Post by El Gunner on Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:50 pm

not buying that. Can't lay it down at Emery's feet. Ozil still had a semi-decent season in Wenger's last season. It wouldn't be the club's fault for thinking a new manager could bring a breath of fresh air to our game including Ozil's. Granted Ozil was still a nice option to have, and is someone who could give you those brilliant through balls when needed.

Ozil actually had another decent stint in Emery's first half a season in 2018/19, but then he completely fell off when Emery's unclear plans for the squad also fell through midway through that season. I still maintain Emery isn't a bad coach, he just inherited a very average squad, and the job wasn't a good fit for him at that specific time for him and for Arsenal.

now sure, you could blame the club for offering Ozil that much money when he was clearly not going to get any better at his age, and it was up in the air as to how long he would maintain his current level at that time. But it happened as it did - the club took a chance, and i don't remember a lot of us fans whining when he signed that extension in 2018 (except maybe only for the amount of his wages which tbh was way too much). The situation now is unbearable and it's weighing over the club, no doubt we could do without it. But laying blame like this all comes in hindsight tbh.
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Post by urbaNRoots on Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:02 pm

What’s worse is, we’re about to do an even worse contract with Willian. This club is terrible.
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Post by El Gunner on Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:09 pm

again, you don't know that. And as far as i know it's about 100k a week for Willian.

pls stop complaining, and give the people a chance now that we have made changes in our setup at the club
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Post by urbaNRoots on Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:19 pm

@El Gunner wrote:again, you don't know that. And as far as i know it's about 100k a week for Willian.

pls stop complaining, and give the people a chance now that we have made changes in our setup at the club

Willian will be here until he is 35. Pretty sure this will be a huge mistake.

As for giving them a chance, I already have and they blew it away. We are 8th after spending 100m+ on players in a team that finished just barely outside the top 4 (not to mention a EL finalist) the previous year.

Things are crap and they are about to get worse. While Chelsea sign a top performer in his prime in Ziyech, we sign their 32 year old winger who Ziyech is replacing. There are levels to this game, and even if Arteta is a genius, he can’t beat these odds.
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Post by Sina on Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:55 pm

I was fan of Diawara when he was at Napoli and wanted him at Arsenal
Dont know how much he has progressed since
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Post by MJ on Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:14 am

Communicado official

Good for the short term, he'll fill creative gaps and doesn't seem to have declined at all yet. I share the concerns about the contract length and Kia Joorabchian's influence but it seems a pretty obvious signing to make in the current climate. He'll improve us.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:22 pm

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Post by MJ on Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:44 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:


Super weird, classless comments to make and, as Arseblog put it, unsettling that Kia Joorabchian feels so entitled to speak publicly about Arsenal's inner operations.
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Post by El Gunner on Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:45 pm

it's in response to the major hate he is getting from the fanbase and some parts of the media for hooking up his clients with Arsenal obviously
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Post by MJ on Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:11 pm

@El Gunner wrote:it's in response to the major hate he is getting from the fanbase and some parts of the media for hooking up his clients with Arsenal obviously


Less put off by him addressing his connection with Arsenal than how he publicly blames "the previous guy" for "cock-ups" and openly speaks about structural changes that need to happen at Arsenal which seems to prove the point of the criticism he's trying to deflect.

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Post by Sina on Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:15 am

@Sina wrote:

Should try Guendouzi+cash for Aouar instead




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Post by RealGunner on Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:05 pm

Really like the Aouar links but he is 50m+ which is a big dent.

Have a feeling ceballos won't return
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Post by RealGunner on Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:32 pm



We sell?
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Post by S on Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:47 pm

@RealGunner wrote:

We sell?


Loan + option to buy Laughing
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Post by El Gunner on Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:19 pm

we should sell if we know how to use the money to add to the squad.
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Post by RealGunner on Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:48 pm

Swindon town have signed Arsenal's FA Cup winner Matt Smith on season loan
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Post by Helmer on Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:16 pm

@RealGunner wrote:Really like the Aouar links but he is 50m+ which is a big dent.

Have a feeling ceballos won't return

he seems to be really good.

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