Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

by Hapless_Hans Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:24 pm

Aouar would be an absolutely amazing signing, would actually make me jealous. Would love it if he were to choose Arsenal over other clubs.

Since all of Ligue 1 Uber Eats is on summer sale, it is a no brainer if I ever heard one. Fuck Madison, average player.

by Hapless_Hans Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:31 pm

Leno
Aarons White Gabriel Tierney
Partey
Smith-Rowe Aouar
Pepe Saka
Aubameyang

Manager: Hjulmand

YES PLEASE

by RealGunner Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:28 pm

Man, i really wish we had gone for Rodrigo De Paul. He is everything Arsenal needs.

by Sri Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:59 pm

Why is Aouar half of what he was priced at last summer? COVID effect on Ligue 1 clubs?

by RealGunner Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:15 pm

Sri wrote:Why is Aouar half of what he was priced at last summer? COVID effect on Ligue 1 clubs?

awful form and bad reputation.

by Sri Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:36 am

Should fit right in then. :coffee:

by Jay29 Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:41 am

He didn't have a strong year, personally.

But on top of that, Ligue 1 clubs (bar PSG) are struggling because of COVID and Ligue 1's TV deal collapsing. Their new deal isn't worth as much.

So these things combined have seen a fall in prices for Ligue 1 players.

by Jay29 Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:48 pm

A summary of where the window is at:

Keeper:
Aaron Ramsdale is the target here apparently, but he'll cost £17m.

Sounds like the early speculation of Leno leaving won't amount to anything so the club are looking for back-ups.

Onana's potential move has gone completely cold.

Defence:
Ben White deal is expected to progress now the Euros are finished.

The club are holding out for a good offer for Bellerin but haven't received one yet. He's been linked to Inter who want him on loan with an obligation to buy.

No offers for Kolasinac as of yet.

Midfield:
Roma have yet to meet the club's asking price for Xhaka.

Lokonga is expected to be an Arsenal player soon.

Willock could return to Newcastle on loan.

The club reportedly want a more experienced partner for Partey and are trying to get Locatelli for 40m euros. Sassuolo are happy with this but Locatelli prefers Juventus and Juventus are trying to get him on loan + buying option.

Neves seems to be the back-up choice.

Nothing about Maitland-Niles.

Smith Rowe is expected to a sign a new contract soon (and possibly get the no. 10 shirt).

Speaking of no. 10s, it's all quiet now. We're still not 100% sure on Odegaard's situation (talk of Madrid needing to offload wages but we'll see). Aouar is available for a cut price but suddenly there's some doubt about him. Sounds like this position will be a late fix, if anything.

Attack:
Nothing about Lacazette, who has 12 months remaining on his contract.

Nketiah linked with Palace, but nothing concrete yet.

Nelson linked with a few PL clubs. Club are trying to extend his contract to protect his value but he doesn't want to. Will probably leave eventually.

A decent journo for Chelsea said we're interested in Tammy Abraham for £40m. I quite like him but if we end up partly funding Chelsea's push for Haaland I might well give up football forever.

Willian is still expected to leave... eventually.

In short:
White and Lokonga probably arrive regardless of sales.

New right back and midfielder depends on Bellerin and Xhaka leaving.

New AM will be a late signing if it happens.

by RealGunner Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:01 pm

https://twitter.com/Ekremkonur/status/1416011062114197510?s=20

by RealGunner Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:07 pm

Jay29 wrote:A summary of where the window is at:

Keeper:
Aaron Ramsdale is the target here apparently, but he'll cost £17m.

Sounds like the early speculation of Leno leaving won't amount to anything so the club are looking for back-ups.

Onana's potential move has gone completely cold.

Out of ALL the keepers in the world we want to overpay on an extremely average one? I mean Danny Ward was excellent for Wales in the Euros and he is a backup at Leicester. Get him in for 5m or something

Defence:
Ben White deal is expected to progress now the Euros are finished.

The club are holding out for a good offer for Bellerin but haven't received one yet. He's been linked to Inter who want him on loan with an obligation to buy.

No offers for Kolasinac as of yet.

Thought Kolasinac's contract was up? the sooner he leaves the better. We need a RB as well regardless of Bellerin situation. Unless AMN has finally realised he isn't a midfielder and wants to focus being a RB

Midfield:
Roma have yet to meet the club's asking price for Xhaka.

Lokonga is expected to be an Arsenal player soon.

Willock could return to Newcastle on loan.

The club reportedly want a more experienced partner for Partey and are trying to get Locatelli for 40m euros. Sassuolo are happy with this but Locatelli prefers Juventus and Juventus are trying to get him on loan + buying option.

Neves seems to be the back-up choice.

Nothing about Maitland-Niles.

Smith Rowe is expected to a sign a new contract soon (and possibly get the no. 10 shirt).

Speaking of no. 10s, it's all quiet now. We're still not 100% sure on Odegaard's situation (talk of Madrid needing to offload wages but we'll see). Aouar is available for a cut price but suddenly there's some doubt about him. Sounds like this position will be a late fix, if anything.

Probably the real shitshow of our transfer window. We need a creative 10 as a priority. And it seems like we are targetting about 3 players only.

Attack:
Nothing about Lacazette, who has 12 months remaining on his contract.

Nketiah linked with Palace, but nothing concrete yet.

Nelson linked with a few PL clubs. Club are trying to extend his contract to protect his value but he doesn't want to. Will probably leave eventually.

A decent journo for Chelsea said we're interested in Tammy Abraham for £40m. I quite like him but if we end up partly funding Chelsea's push for Haaland I might well give up football forever.

Willian is still expected to leave... eventually.

Wouldn't mind Tammy for about 15-20m. Nothing more. We better not lose Lacazette on a free[/quote]

by Jay29 Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:47 pm

Deal for White agreed now. £50m.

by RealGunner Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:11 pm

get innnnnnnnnnnnnnn

by Jay29 Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:51 pm

Lokonga official.

Will be known as Sambi now.

https://www.arsenal.com/news/welcome-sambi-lokonga-joins-arsenal

by El Gunner Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:57 pm

Welcome Sambi

by RealGunner Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:24 pm

Best talent i have seen since Vieira

welcome Bambi

by Eman Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:49 pm

Jay29 wrote:Deal for White agreed now. £50m.

I get that we prefer homegrown players and there is an English premium that you pay for that. I get that world class players won't want to join Arsenal right now because we are nowhere near where we want to be and the negativity and pressure around our club is extremely high right now. Maybe Ben White even fits the profile of the type of player we're looking for.

However, paying 50M for a guy who has only played 1 season of top flight football for a team that finished 16th is embarrassing no matter how you dress it up, particularly in the context of so many clubs across Europe being extremely hard-pressed for cash. It's as if Arsenal hasn't noticed that there is a pandemic going on and foreign players are cheaper than ever, or that our competitors are linked with world class CBs for a fraction of the price that Brighton has quoted us on a player that no other team in Europe is trying to sign.

I am trying not to dislike this guy because it's not his fault that we're making him so expensive, but this doesn't make any sense.

by Jay29 Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:34 pm

In the near future, there's a strong chance the number of non home grown players allowed in a PL squad will be reduced from 17 to 13. This, as I understand it, is a compromise between the FA and PL that'll see the FA relax its work permit requirements post Brexit. Remember, from now on all non-UK and Irish players will need permits to play here.

Arsenal's targeting of English players, notably White, Ramsdale and Maddison, plus securing academy prospects to long term deal seems to be with this in mind. It's wiser to spend big now to secure the talent before the rules come into effect and drive the prices up even more.

It's going to become harder to secure cheaper foreign talent.

by Eman Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:54 pm

Well, that argument has some merit but it does seem like that will result in lower overall quality in the league, and at our club. It also sounds more and more like we’re in for Tammy Abraham now and want to sell Lacazette, which would align with that strategy.

by RealGunner Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:10 pm

Would you buy Odegaard for 40m or Maddison for 60m?

by Sina Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:14 pm

Maddison

From 2019

Sina wrote:"]Time to reiterate

Sina wrote:Arsenal sent scouts to watch Suso on Saturday. Monchi has recently met the player's agent as he was looking to sign him for Roma. [La Gazzetta dello Sport]

Nico Pepe>>>>>>>>

Pepe+Maddison needed

http://www.goallegacy.net/t41373p900-the-official-summer-transfer-rumours-thread#1934340

https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t42060p325-the-official-summer-transfer-rumours-thread#1972764
:coffee:

by El Gunner Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:16 pm

Maddison because of the PL experience and he's the better player currently, and Odegaard might never be better

fuck the Kroenkes and their money, might as well blow it

by Raptorgunner Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:53 am

Maddison would be a great signing, I was not impressed with Odegaard surprised that Madrid wants to keep him.
we need to get rid of at least 7 or 8 more players, just too many average players.

What position does Lokonga play and are we expecting him to start?

by mani88 Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:07 am

RealGunner wrote:Would you buy Odegaard for 40m or Maddison for 60m?

Maddison for sure because

1. Has more PL experience.
2. As of NOW a fit Maddison is a better AM than a fit Odegaard and We need an AM for this season rather than after 2-3 years.
3. Is English (Home-grown). Will help us when the new rule kicks in.
4. We have The smith who could evolve more and will hopefully be classified as WC 2-3 years time.

by RealGunner Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:36 pm

Raptorgunner wrote:Maddison would be a great signing, I was not impressed with Odegaard surprised that Madrid wants to keep him.
we need to get rid of at least 7 or 8 more players, just too many average players.

What position does Lokonga play and are we expecting him to start?

Lokonga plays as a CM. He is behind the ball type player.

by Eman Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:01 pm

I would go with Odegaard if it comes down to him or Maddison, personally. He influences build-up play more in my opinion and I thought he was excellent during his loan given that he had to deal with a front line that was not firing in most games. He is also 2 years younger, would be cheaper, shows great leadership qualities (already the Norway captain), and is familiar with our style of play, which is not the same as Leicester's; despite Maddison having more PL experience, I feel like Odegaard would gel with our team better.

Also, Maddison does have a lot of hype but I think he's a bit overrated personally. He barely scored or assisted for the entire back half of last season when Leicester blew their top 4 bid, which FPL managers will know all too well! Okay maybe that is unfair criticism but when I think of the Odegaard game against Spurs and how he just totally bossed it, I can't help but want to believe that he would be the right guy for the job if he can consistently achieve that level. Maybe if we actually get back to a decent level, he could convince his other Norwegian friend to choose us over Chelsea :coffee:

by Hapless_Hans Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:18 am

Preferring Maddison to Oedegaard, don't even know what to say to this kind of folly

Except it's the kind of judgement that has Arsenal in mid table while still keeping their inept rookie manager.

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