Andrew Yang fan club - US President 2020 ???

This is just all around embarrasing. Race, race, race..... boring

Young Kaz wrote:

Thimmy wrote:I got the same impression as Hans from that tweet. Mentioning white people initially, was necessary to highlight which race this particular issue concerns. Other than that, I think he does the diplomatically right thing in referring to them as part of "our" nation - a nation in which all races are included.

Fair play Thimmy.

Why doesnt he do this with ASIAN American issues though or even other groups who arent making the memes for him?

Are people of his ethnic makeup less American than he?

Hell, Native Americans kill themselves likes it going out of style. Why isnt this his tweet. He's playing right into right-wing identity politics.

I wouldn't know. I've watched a few interviews with him, but he's mostly been talking about economics, not race-related issues.

Thimmy wrote:

Young Kaz wrote:

Thimmy wrote:I got the same impression as Hans from that tweet. Mentioning white people initially, was necessary to highlight which race this particular issue concerns. Other than that, I think he does the diplomatically right thing in referring to them as part of "our" nation - a nation in which all races are included.

Fair play Thimmy.

Why doesnt he do this with ASIAN American issues though or even other groups who arent making the memes for him?

Are people of his ethnic makeup less American than he?

Hell, Native Americans kill themselves likes it going out of style. Why isnt this his tweet. He's playing right into right-wing identity politics.

I wouldn't know. I've watched a few interviews with him, but he's mostly been talking about economics, not race-related issues.

He told Mehdi Hassan the Neo-Nazis way of life is disintegrating, and apparently this concerns the man.

On #Deconstructed, I asked Dem presidential candidate @AndrewYang why neo-Nazis like his campaign.

Andrew: "The problem the truck driver is facing and the problem the neo-Nazi is facing, it's a disintegrating way of life."

Me: "Sorry a neo-Nazi's way of life is disintegrating?" pic.twitter.com/efAcGTNyjg

— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) June 11, 2019

Certainly theres a reason neonazis like Richard Spencer have backed him? How many Asian men would a nazi back? One who will do their bidding and post tweets about white suicide while ignoring the own in his community. A man more concerned with another mans yard than his own. A man who, mostly for money lets be honest, is willing to sell his soul as an uncle chan. Unique calls men like this unworthy of respect, and I do believe in this case he is right.

Walking around with a "Math" hat like that doesnt peddle in the lowest common denominator of Asian stereotypes.

Honestly Yang, even in his peddling, thinks very little of white people when his shield comes down. He conflates the truck driver in middle america with a neo nazi. Its actually horrific to see. He's just doing it for money. A charlatan no different from the preacher begging poor people to donate for his plane.

Myesyats wrote:This is just all around embarrasing. Race, race, race..... boring

Imagine how embarrassed Asians feel . All the problems in our community, and then we have to turn on the TV and see this fucking guy running around with a "Math" cap and tap dancing like bojangles about "Our" life expectancy while getting support from actual Nazis. You know....the type of guys who makes life a living hell for the average Asian in this country.



^^This is pretty much yang.

"Automation......concerned....1000 a month and stuff"

you guys do know all politicians are coached on how to speak dont you. the reason they say us and we a lot is it includes anybody and everybody. also by saying us and we it makes people feel like you are on the same level as them and more likely to vote for you. if you say something like the people or them it sounds like you are separating yourself from the voters. its all about manipulating the people/voters. i am very good at manipulating people maybe i should have gone into politics.

Unique wrote:you guys do know all politicians are coached on how to speak dont you. the reason they say us and we a lot is it includes anybody and everybody. also by saying us and we it makes people feel like you are on the same level as them and more likely to vote for you. if you say something like the people or them it sounds like you are separating yourself from the voters. its all about manipulating the people/voters. i am very good at manipulating people maybe i should have gone into politics.

Can you show me where he has used "US" to refer to blacks?

Latinos?

Japanese Americans?

You wont find it.

I've known Chinese men like Yang all my life. Think because his Chinese parents spent some time in Taiwan, and that they got a job, that they were white.He'd get enough money and believe it too. He was bullied, and didnt like it, so he figured appeasement would save him. Like Neville Chamberlain figured out though you'd appease someone who doesnt respect you long enough and it isnt going to end in them respecting you. He's someone to laugh at:

"Look at that Asian man with his math hat"

and then hes a prop:

"I cant be racist for talking white replacement. Look at this Asian boy man say it!"

and then hes placed into the rubbish bin when he is no longer a useful idiot(Like Tila Tequila).

Young Kaz wrote:

Unique wrote:you guys do know all politicians are coached on how to speak dont you. the reason they say us and we a lot is it includes anybody and everybody. also by saying us and we it makes people feel like you are on the same level as them and more likely to vote for you. if you say something like the people or them it sounds like you are separating yourself from the voters. its all about manipulating the people/voters. i am very good at manipulating people maybe i should have gone into politics.

Can you show me where he has used "US" to refer to blacks?

Latinos?

Japanese Americans?

You wont find it.

I've known Chinese men like Yang all my life. Think because his Chinese parents spent some time in Taiwan, and that they got a job, that they were white.He'd get enough money and believe it too. He was bullied, and didnt like it, so he figured appeasement would save him. Like Neville Chamberlain figured out though you'd appease someone who doesnt respect you long enough and it isnt going to end in them respecting you. He's someone to laugh at:

"Look at that Asian man with his math hat"

and then hes a prop:

"I cant be racist for talking white replacement. Look at this Asian boy man say it!"

and then hes placed into the rubbish bin when he is no longer a useful idiot(Like Tila Tequila).

you still dont understand how the game is played do you.

Unique wrote:

Young Kaz wrote:

Unique wrote:you guys do know all politicians are coached on how to speak dont you. the reason they say us and we a lot is it includes anybody and everybody. also by saying us and we it makes people feel like you are on the same level as them and more likely to vote for you. if you say something like the people or them it sounds like you are separating yourself from the voters. its all about manipulating the people/voters. i am very good at manipulating people maybe i should have gone into politics.

Can you show me where he has used "US" to refer to blacks?

Latinos?

Japanese Americans?

You wont find it.

I've known Chinese men like Yang all my life. Think because his Chinese parents spent some time in Taiwan, and that they got a job, that they were white.He'd get enough money and believe it too. He was bullied, and didnt like it, so he figured appeasement would save him. Like Neville Chamberlain figured out though you'd appease someone who doesnt respect you long enough and it isnt going to end in them respecting you. He's someone to laugh at:

"Look at that Asian man with his math hat"

and then hes a prop:

"I cant be racist for talking white replacement. Look at this Asian boy man say it!"

and then hes placed into the rubbish bin when he is no longer a useful idiot(Like Tila Tequila).

you still dont understand how the game is played do you.

I think I summed up the game perfectly in my post.

Hapless_Hans wrote:Do you acknowledge any other sort of community than one based on the (socially constructed) concept of "race", at all?

Myesyats wrote:

Hapless_Hans wrote:Do you acknowledge any other sort of community than one based on the (socially constructed) concept of "race", at all?

Obviously I do, but this was a loaded question.

Every concept of "Community" is Socially constructed.

I can certainly see where Betty is coming from on that tweet. I mean, the way "our" is juxtaposed with the white birthrate going down is...interesting to say the least. Do I think it's intentional? I'm not sure. Do I disagree with Betty? I would say probably.

BUT the tweet is certainly worded weirdly.

Let me say this: if a white person tweeted this...let's say Beto or Buttigieg, or Warren (although it would get more attention if it were a white male). This tweet would be taken and looked at WAY differently. That's not to say that this is "reverse racism" (lol), but simply to say that I can absolutely see the angle that Betty is coming in from here.

Now I don't know jack shit about Yang or how he talks about race, so I'm not really going to get into a broader conversation. Just that the tweet has very interesting wording and I don't think Betty is coming in with some batshit crazy interpretation here.

Especially when you juxtapose that tweet with the Math hat and some of the other issues Betty brings up. Appreciated insight here

Thimmy wrote:This has to be the most civil discussion I've seen between a progressive and a conservative.

I am in Strategy and this guy is a pure strategist. He knows the current trends by heart and how people COULD adapt to make a better future. I am very impressed.

BUT its easier said than done as always.

Also I think the fact that he needs facts and numbers to prove every point is going to weigh against him very soon.

Young Kaz wrote:

Unique wrote:

Young Kaz wrote:

Can you show me where he has used "US" to refer to blacks?

Latinos?

Japanese Americans?

You wont find it.

I've known Chinese men like Yang all my life. Think because his Chinese parents spent some time in Taiwan, and that they got a job, that they were white.He'd get enough money and believe it too. He was bullied, and didnt like it, so he figured appeasement would save him. Like Neville Chamberlain figured out though you'd appease someone who doesnt respect you long enough and it isnt going to end in them respecting you. He's someone to laugh at:

"Look at that Asian man with his math hat"

and then hes a prop:

"I cant be racist for talking white replacement. Look at this Asian boy man say it!"

and then hes placed into the rubbish bin when he is no longer a useful idiot(Like Tila Tequila).

you still dont understand how the game is played do you.

I think I summed up the game perfectly in my post.

the problem you have when it comes to politicians is you think any of them care about you. they dont care about you the same way they dont care about anyone they only care about votes. the way you play the game is first you identify who are the majority. 2nd thing is you find out what they want from a politician and then you make false promises and tell them exactly what they want to hear. and thats how the game is played.

CBarca wrote:I can certainly see where Betty is coming from on that tweet. I mean, the way "our" is juxtaposed with the white birthrate going down is...interesting to say the least. Do I think it's intentional? I'm not sure. Do I disagree with Betty? I would say probably.

BUT the tweet is certainly worded weirdly.

Let me say this: if a white person tweeted this...let's say Beto or Buttigieg, or Warren (although it would get more attention if it were a white male). This tweet would be taken and looked at WAY differently. That's not to say that this is "reverse racism" (lol), but simply to say that I can absolutely see the angle that Betty is coming in from here.

Now I don't know jack shit about Yang or how he talks about race, so I'm not really going to get into a broader conversation. Just that the tweet has very interesting wording and I don't think Betty is coming in with some batshit crazy interpretation here.

Especially when you juxtapose that tweet with the Math hat and some of the other issues Betty brings up. Appreciated insight here

I can second that. Just think Betty gets too dug in.

FennecFox7 wrote:Yang is too smart for the American population. He's great but we have people who still can't point out Colombia on a map.

yang over thinks things tbh.

Unique wrote:

FennecFox7 wrote:Yang is too smart for the American population. He's great but we have people who still can't point out Colombia on a map.

yang over thinks things tbh.

He overthinks for an average human, his process of thinking is great and that is why he would be a great businessman and that is what we need in Politics now, the era of votebanks and religious politics has to finish asap.

Nishankly wrote:

Unique wrote:

FennecFox7 wrote:Yang is too smart for the American population. He's great but we have people who still can't point out Colombia on a map.

yang over thinks things tbh.

He overthinks for an average human, his process of thinking is great and that is why he would be a great businessman and that is what we need in Politics now, the era of votebanks and religious politics has to finish asap.

he would make a piss poor politician. his biggest draw back is he has morals. his 2nd draw back is he would target the minority. he will one day make a great father and family man but he will never make a great politician.

Not disagreeing there, the world is too dumb to follow the right people.

Nishankly wrote:Not disagreeing there, the world is too dumb to follow the right people.

Unique wrote:

Young Kaz wrote:

Unique wrote:
you still dont understand how the game is played do you.

I think I summed up the game perfectly in my post.

the problem you have when it comes to politicians is you think any of them care about you. they dont care about you the same way they dont care about anyone they only care about votes. the way you play the game is first you identify who are the majority. 2nd thing is you find out what they want from a politician and then you make false promises and tell them exactly what they want to hear. and thats how the game is played.

You're right

FennecFox7 wrote:Yang is too smart for the American population. He's great but we have people who still can't point out Colombia on a map.

Lets hope his two sons are too, because they will have to score a standard deviation higher than white students to get into the exact same college.

Of course Yang wont tweet about that

Just another Tech Bro

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Just another Tech Bro

He's going to lose half his tech bro vote when they realize he doesnt have any daughters they can get with

More worried about who now?