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Post by Sri Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:21 pm

Twoism wrote:Oh fukc me, just went out for a smoke and 2-2 go go boys
Smoking ain't good for you lad, but maybe you should do that again and we score a couple? smoking

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Post by Sina Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:23 pm

Cut back FC Proud
Iwobi :bow: :bow:
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Post by Twoism Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:23 pm

Will do in the time of need Smile we missed quite a few chance.
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Post by urbaNRoots Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:31 pm

As I said guys we’re back to Arsenal 2008/09, Aubameyang to do a Adebayor and score 30 goals this season but miss 40 instead :bow:
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Post by Twoism Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:32 pm

Torreira to deliver killing blow
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Post by Twoism Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:08 pm

Man that was really bad back pass by Laca
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Post by AnJl Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:14 pm

I don't understand why the midfielders are coming closer to help the defenders when playing out of the back, there is so much space!
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Post by Twoism Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:22 pm

It’s positive showing for me, suck that we lost but oh well
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Post by RealGunner Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:24 pm

Yea i think we are getting there.

Better to judge the team and Emery in few months.
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Post by Sina Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:25 pm

100 M on two forwards that only feast vs scrubs
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Post by El Gunner Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:26 pm

Just needs to instil the Torreira - Guendouzi midfield.
Leno for Cech
Perhaps Lichtsteiner for Bellerin.

Then that only real leaves Mustafi as the real problem.
Hopefully Emery sees the light on all of this.

We NEED to win next week.
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Post by Sina Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:26 pm

Europa league doesn't start until Feb
extended pre season until then :coffee:
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Post by Jay29 Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:31 pm

Sina wrote:100 M on two forwards that only feast vs scrubs


You have to actually make shots for your CF to score, you know.

Besides the god awful defending in the first half, the big issue for me was how we conceded the ball in the second half. We played like a team clinging on to a 1-0 lead when it was 2-2 and there for the taking.

It's infuriating because this game was entirely winnable. Four big chances in the first half, including at least two sitters that we missed. A Chelsea team just as convincing at the back as we were. The balance wasn't right at all.

So this is points thrown away for me. It's good that Emery is changing things in response to the game situation, but that second half was too much.

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Post by RealGunner Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:36 pm

I am not sure Ozil fits Emery's system or style.

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Post by urbaNRoots Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:39 pm

It was a decent showing but damn 0 points out of these two games sucks. In the next few calmer games I expect improved finishing because you don’t get to win games with such crappy finishing.

Defensively I don’t expect big improvements this season because our personnel just sucks. Sure we probably won’t concede 2-3 every game but we will alwaya look like conceding with these guys.You look at other teams and they have big, fast, strong guys in defence meanwhile we field weak, soft melts like Bellerin, Mustafi, Monreal etc... you can’t really work much with these guys in the Premier League.
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Post by Twoism Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:41 pm

Monreal is doable but good lord Bellerin, his side got skin bad when Hazard came on. At one point, he was walking back while Mhki doing dirty work.
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Post by Nishankly Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:44 pm

These two games could be a blessing in disguise. Better find the flaws right now rather than later against big teams in the season especially for a new manager. Having the window still open would have helped a lot though.
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Post by Jay29 Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:48 pm

Bellerin sucks and Lichtsteiner should replace him already.

I don't know what's up with him but his pace has definitely dropped. Without it, he can't correct his positional errors or make up for his poor reaction time.

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Post by RealGunner Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:48 pm

don't shoot me since i myself wanted XHAKA out after 2-0 down but he was missed in the 2nd half. His ball retention and passing anyways. Think that was one of the reasons we couldn't get out of the half.

Bit of a conundrum though.

I think we need to try Ramsey-Torreira-Guendouzi in midfield. Or Ramsey-Torreira-XHAKA.

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Post by El Gunner Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:05 pm

nah RG, Emery clearly told the boys to sit deeper in the 2nd half. Which was a good decision I think, but we had little offensive effort which was the bad part.

It's all about learning to play the ball out of the back now. We need Leno in goal, and we need to move the ball quicker out into the midfield and into the flanks.
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Post by sportsczy Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:15 pm

Ramsey is useless as a midfielder... he shouldn't even be called a midfielder. Not sure what he is.
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Post by urbaNRoots Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:16 pm

RealGunner wrote:don't shoot me since i myself wanted XHAKA out after 2-0 down but he was missed in the 2nd half. His ball retention and passing anyways. Think that was one of the reasons we couldn't get out of the half.

Bit of a conundrum though.

I think we need to try Ramsey-Torreira-Guendouzi in midfield. Or Ramsey-Torreira-XHAKA.



It’s true, XHAKA makes our midfield tick. Despite his flaws in defence, he’s the one who can break a press with his passing and is one of our best passers in midfield. Torreira was bought to mitigate those flaws.

Our best midfield is when Torreira, Guendouzi and XHAKA all play together. That way you can afford to play Aubameyang/Lacazette/Ozil without being terrible defensively. Ramsey can be useful against park the bus teams because you can be a bit more attacking minded so he comes in for Guendouzi in those games.

I think this is what Emery will do once Torreira/XHAKA are back to full fitness.
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Post by Sina Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:30 pm

I dont really blame individuals for defeats but pointing at facts
City x3
Utd
Spurs
Chelsea

thats 6 big game disappointments from Auba so far
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Post by Sina Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:39 pm

understat has it at 1.66 to 2.21 for xG

https://understat.com/match/9212
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Post by urbaNRoots Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:45 pm

Sina wrote:understat has it at 1.66 to 2.21 for xG

https://understat.com/match/9212


Sorry for being dumb but what does this mean? Chelsea created better chances?

But yeah I agree Aubameyang has sucked in these two games, he really needs to get that swagger back.
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Post by RealGunner Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:08 pm

Was Sokratis an Emery signing?

Or mislintwat forced it on him?
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