Re: La Liga Discussion 2017/18 part 3

by Lex Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:46 am

I can't recall a time since i started following football seriously that Madrid have lost this many games in half a season. It feels surreal

by The Demon of Carthage Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:42 am

danyjr wrote:Who are these scrubs Madrid field day in day out...and they wonder why they are in this state?

Literally every big team strengthened in January, even those which already spent millions and millions in the summer. Yet Madrid are the quietest team in the transfer market despite being in need the most

Zidane doesn't want anybody to come. He repeatedly said so himself. That's the only reason Madrid has been quieter than death in the last two transfer windows.

Florentino used to buy Galacticos left and right, but he has completely changed ever since Zidane came to power. He listens to him in pretty much everything.

It's no coincidence that Madrid haven't made any major signings with Zidane in charge. He's blocking everything with the freedom and power Florentino gave him.

I bet Flo bangs his head against the wall every night for listening to Zidane.

by titosantill Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:05 am

lol we play valencia this weekend. let this be a lesson that we can't just sign scrubs to make starters comfortable. we will not sign anyone in the winter, we have to take the whoopings and learn from them and find a middle ground. not just signing galacticos and not just signing scrubs still in diapers cos they beast for osasuna and the likes

by Thimmy Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:07 am

The Demon of Carthage wrote:
I bet Flo bangs his head against the wall every night for listening to Zidane.

That does sound like the type of advice Zidane would give hmm

by Mr Nick09 Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:28 am

let's be real here, no january could save this team, none. we are dealing with too much of a lack of preparation, and lack of coaching. you can't run a team on motivation for 3 years, this is what we are facing now.

we trusted a mediocre castilla coach with an amateurish staff made up of his childhood friends to lead madrid. thankfully the best european player in 25 years and one of the better squad ever pulled through and delivered in big moments.

zidane is lucky he coached us, if i was him i would go coach this stupidly star studded france team and then retire. If he tries to do much else, it wont end well. i guess he could also dominate with PSG since they have Nerman and 0 competition.

by danyjr Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:15 pm

The Demon of Carthage wrote:Zidane doesn't want anybody to come. He repeatedly said so himself. That's the only reason Madrid has been quieter than death in the last two transfer windows.

Florentino used to buy Galacticos left and right, but he has completely changed ever since Zidane came to power. He listens to him in pretty much everything.

It's no coincidence that Madrid haven't made any major signings with Zidane in charge. He's blocking everything with the freedom and power Florentino gave him.

I bet Flo bangs his head against the wall every night for listening to Zidane.

Zidane is that lucky noob in highschool who beat all the veterans in poker and half your crew thought he was the shit. Exposed catastrophically thereafter once his luck ran out.

by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:29 pm

Why is everyone acting like saying no one is needed actually means he feels that way? Obviously if he had that opinion he would keep it to himself, the last thing he needs is a player underperforming because Zidane said he wanted to replace him to the entire world

by futbol Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:38 pm

Intrigued to see how Madrid will rebuild. Hazard might be realistic due to his contract situation but even then he won't cost any less than something like € 150M. After that you can forget about Kane. As if Spurs will accept any less than € 200M. He is English, the Premier League poster boy, Tottenham homegrown and his contract ends in 2022. Good luck.

And where does Ronaldo go if he goes? No club in the world would pay his wages right now. He won't work with Mourinho again who called him "not the real Ronaldo", Pep will not want him and PSG have Neymar and Mbappe. After that no one can afford his wages, nevermind a semi-excessive transfer fee on top of that.

by Mr Nick09 Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:06 am

Man Yoo and PSG would pay for commercial and exposure value, of course they would pay.

by CM Pep Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:21 am

Shouldn't Ronaldo be retiring at Madrid ideally?

Never fully understood his status among the club legends of RM.

He's done enough to be considered in top 5 RM players of all time.

Wouldn't Madrid want him to retire with them?

by Valkyrja Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:22 am

CM Pep wrote:Shouldn't Ronaldo be retiring at Madrid ideally?

Never fully understood his status among the club legends of RM.

He's done enough to be considered in top 5 RM players of all time.

Wouldn't Madrid want him to retire with them?

of course not. we didn't let Raul retire here lol Laughing

by CM Pep Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:26 am

Valkyrja wrote:
CM Pep wrote:Shouldn't Ronaldo be retiring at Madrid ideally?

Never fully understood his status among the club legends of RM.

He's done enough to be considered in top 5 RM players of all time.

Wouldn't Madrid want him to retire with them?

of course not. we didn't let Raul retire here lol

True, I thought it would be different this time. Guess not.

by Valkyrja Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:56 am

CM Pep wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:
CM Pep wrote:Shouldn't Ronaldo be retiring at Madrid ideally?

Never fully understood his status among the club legends of RM.

He's done enough to be considered in top 5 RM players of all time.

Wouldn't Madrid want him to retire with them?

of course not. we didn't let Raul retire here lol

True, I thought it would be different this time. Guess not.

personally i wouldn't give a shat if he left tomorrow. i've lost any interest i had in him after the decima final, the shirtless penalty crap was unbearable to watch

by FalcaoPunch Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:36 am

It also doesn't make sense to sign anyone if Zidane doesn't have the balls to really bench anyone out of our starting XI (only really Isco and he's not technically a starter)

He isn't going to tweak our front three, midfield, or back 4. He just won't.

by futbol_bill Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:55 am

Zidane is as good as gone!

by guest7 Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:56 am

If Zidane doesn’t have the balls to openly say he needs players he is stupid.

Also this is Papa Flo we’re talking about. He doesn’t mind spending on players

by futbol Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:16 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:Man Yoo and PSG would pay for commercial and exposure value, of course they would pay.

Bollocks. ManU don't need any commercial exposure, they are topping the recent Deloitte Money League by far despite being shit on the pitch for several years now and despite a weak Sterling Pound. Also Ronaldo sold his image rights to Peter Lim as far as I know and there is no way a has been on something like 50 million a year gross will generate any sort of money for a club. Mourinho hates him as well and Mourinho isn't the type of coach to get bullied by executives buying players over his head.

PSG would have done it a few years ago but not now with Neymar there.

by Hapless_Hans Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:20 am

futbol wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:Man Yoo and PSG would pay for commercial and exposure value, of course they would pay.

Bollocks. ManU don't need any commercial exposure, they are topping the recent Deloitte Money League by far despite being shit on the pitch for several years now and despite a weak Sterling Pound. Also Ronaldo sold his image rights to Peter Lim as far as I know and there is no way a has been on something like 50 million a year gross will generate any sort of money for a club. Mourinho hates him as well and Mourinho isn't the type of coach to get bullied by executives buying players over his head.

PSG would have done it a few years ago but not now with Neymar there.

inb4 Zinchenko has a minor injury and Pep panicks into throwing 250m at Madrid for Ronaldo

by futbol Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:46 am

That would be classic Pep no doubt. Proud

by Mr Nick09 Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:13 am

FalcaoPunch wrote:It also doesn't make sense to sign anyone if Zidane doesn't have the balls to really bench anyone out of our starting XI (only really Isco and he's not technically a starter)

He isn't going to tweak our front three, midfield, or back 4. He just won't.

it's not that he doesn't have the balls he is committed a 100% to those guys, after all they delivered 2 CLs for him. So this is a choice he is not victim of his situation

by Mr Nick09 Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:19 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:
futbol wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:Man Yoo and PSG would pay for commercial and exposure value, of course they would pay.

Bollocks. ManU don't need any commercial exposure, they are topping the recent Deloitte Money League by far despite being shit on the pitch for several years now and despite a weak Sterling Pound. Also Ronaldo sold his image rights to Peter Lim as far as I know and there is no way a has been on something like 50 million a year gross will generate any sort of money for a club. Mourinho hates him as well and Mourinho isn't the type of coach to get bullied by executives buying players over his head.

PSG would have done it a few years ago but not now with Neymar there.

inb4 Zinchenko has a minor injury and Pep panicks into throwing 250m at Madrid for Ronaldo

look I have never seen a rich club not trying to make more money. Peter Lim only has 50% of his image rights, we have the rest as long as he plays for us.

But this is not the only way to make money. A player like CR allows you to negotiate bigger deals with sponsors, that's where the real money is. If Chevrolet was paying 50 mil before United can now tell them to renegotiate that deal because they havev CR7 now. If they negotiate a new commercial deal instead of being paid the normal 20 mil market rate they ask for a premium because of CR. That's how it works.

Besides CR and mou are ok. If you think they haven't mended their rrlationship already lol

by The Demon of Carthage Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:49 am

danyjr wrote:Zidane is that lucky noob in highschool who beat all the veterans in poker and half your crew thought he was the shit. Exposed catastrophically thereafter once his luck ran out.

Pretty much.

by FalcaoPunch Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:48 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:
FalcaoPunch wrote:It also doesn't make sense to sign anyone if Zidane doesn't have the balls to really bench anyone out of our starting XI (only really Isco and he's not technically a starter)

He isn't going to tweak our front three, midfield, or back 4. He just won't.
it's not that he doesn't have the balls he is committed a 100% to those guys, after all they delivered 2 CLs for him. So this is a choice he is not victim of his situation

Our players delivered 2 back to back CL. Simply amazing.
These very same players have dropped form significantly since late august/early september.

As a coach he has not reacted to the situation all the while keeping the same scheme and setup week in and week out.

He doesn't have the balls to bench players and attempt something new. Now don't get me wrong our bench wouldn't be our savior but I would have liked to see some initiative and reaction from him to try something new in hopes of bettering our situation.

by Harmonica Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:26 am

Barca line-up:

by Harmonica Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:34 am

Took 2 minutes Refdird to start corruption. Laughing

by Harmonica Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:40 am

1-0 Nice attack.

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