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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:56 pm

Jay29 wrote:Isn't it just a case of Jericho and Ambrose having nobody to work atm because Styles is main eventing and Lesnar has pissed off for a bit?


Possibly Laughing Jericho as a heel is entertaining though IMO so i think they can make it work.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:58 pm

RealGunner wrote:Lesnar's next squash feud should be interesting



Is it too much to ask that he doesn't squash everyone he faces? Laughing

Apparently....
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:59 pm

Watching Unforgiven 2006 and Orton has pulled off another amazing RKO hmm

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Post by Onyx Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:00 am

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Onyx wrote:Giving them more time or longer matches isn't the right way imo. Doing that is just a cheap hopeful shortcut. Remember the goal here isn't to appreciate their wrestling skills, it's to make people care about them as a whole. The longer matches will come with time.

What would make me care about the divas? Big storylines. Put them into main event/midcard storylines with males and I'd watch them. But giving divas more time is the equivalent of giving male jobbers more time. It won't make a difference. Laughing


The two matches in question do have storylines behind them though. Albeit it only started this week so there is probably more to come from them but still.


Doesn't matter though. If Fandango and Adam Rose, 2 jobbers had a storyline, would anyone care? That's my point. Divas are in the same tier as male jobbers. That's why nobody cares about them.

I cared about the Brie vs Steph storyline 2 years ago because it was a main event story. Likewise with AJ Lee/Punk/Bryan.

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Post by M99 Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:00 am

Shitty sites shittily paraphrasing Meltzer again. This was him speculating on possible matches from watching RAW and Smackdown.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:02 am

Onyx wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Onyx wrote:Giving them more time or longer matches isn't the right way imo. Doing that is just a cheap hopeful shortcut. Remember the goal here isn't to appreciate their wrestling skills, it's to make people care about them as a whole. The longer matches will come with time.

What would make me care about the divas? Big storylines. Put them into main event/midcard storylines with males and I'd watch them. But giving divas more time is the equivalent of giving male jobbers more time. It won't make a difference. Laughing


The two matches in question do have storylines behind them though. Albeit it only started this week so there is probably more to come from them but still.


Doesn't matter though. If Fandango and Adam Rose, 2 jobbers had a storyline, would anyone care? That's my point. Divas are in the same tier as male jobbers. That's why nobody cares about them.

I cared about the Brie vs Steph storyline 2 years ago because it was a main event story. Likewise with AJ Lee/Punk/Bryan.


In fairness nobody would have Fandango and Adam Rose in a storyline Laughing

At least i think anyway hmm
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:03 am

M99 wrote:Shitty sites shittily paraphrasing Meltzer again. This was him speculating on possible matches from watching RAW and Smackdown.


Oh right hmm

Didn't make sense anyway, as i said i have hard time believing they wouldn't have Sasha or New Day on a PPV.
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Post by Kaladin Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:11 am

Thinking of going to this WWE revenge event in london on the 18th
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Post by Onyx Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:15 am

Problem is the divas are a minority on the roster. WWE has always been a male dominated company. Which means the divas are unfortunately seen as a side act to the men. There's nothing that can be done about that, unless they have equal men/women appearing every week, which is never going to happen. So the way to make people care about them is to associate them with the men. Lana is arguably the biggest female star along with Steph, because she's associated with Rusev. And even though her feud with Summer Rae/Ziggler was totally rubbish, it was more significant than what a strictly divas feud would have been.


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Post by M99 Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:16 am

Onyx wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Onyx wrote:Giving them more time or longer matches isn't the right way imo. Doing that is just a cheap hopeful shortcut. Remember the goal here isn't to appreciate their wrestling skills, it's to make people care about them as a whole. The longer matches will come with time.

What would make me care about the divas? Big storylines. Put them into main event/midcard storylines with males and I'd watch them. But giving divas more time is the equivalent of giving male jobbers more time. It won't make a difference. Laughing


The two matches in question do have storylines behind them though. Albeit it only started this week so there is probably more to come from them but still.


Doesn't matter though. If Fandango and Adam Rose, 2 jobbers had a storyline, would anyone care? That's my point. Divas are in the same tier as male jobbers. That's why nobody cares about them.


Yeah, that's not the case anymore.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:18 am

I'd say the reactions that all 3 got at Wrestlemania says people do care about them hmm

I agree in general they don't, which is why it's important they build the division and not just a couple of girls. No point having the 3 at Wrestlemania and ignoring the rest.

No point in saying you have a division and not building them up, which is why i think Natalya and Emma are involved on TV this week hmm
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:33 am

Edge and Cena TLC at Unforgiven 2006 is very good hmm
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Post by RealGunner Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:36 am

very? one of the best TLC matches I've ever seen


Edge and Cena feud was so good. Better than his and Orton's feud.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:43 am

I said that after about 5 mins tbf Laughing
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Post by RealGunner Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:48 am

Cena-Edge in summerslam06 and Cena-Edge in backlash 2009 were also amazing.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:51 am

Finlay in the main event of a PPV in 2006 Laughing

Dat worst product eva doe.

Come to think of it, all the exclusive smackdown PPVs this year are pretty crap tbh. hmm Raw ones are legit though mostly.


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Post by RealGunner Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:52 am

Absolutely hated him

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:53 am

King Booker rofl

Only good thing about this card is Taker vs Mr Kennedy, as i think it's the one Taker beats the living shit out of him.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:56 am

Who the mother of *bleep* are Paul London, Brian Kendrick, KC James, Idol Stevens and Marty Garner rofl

Serious Scrub city hmm
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Post by Onyx Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:01 am

Idol Stevens is Sandow in his first stint at the company. hmm

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Post by M99 Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:04 am

2011 pre-pipe bomb was just unbelievable. I came back when I saw Rock returned and I was astounded by how bad in general the product was. This was one of the main feuds during Wrestlemania season. Listen to that pop.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:09 am

Considering 2011 was the year of WM27 i can believe it tbh. hmm

Snookie was in the match before Miz being in the main event ffs.
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Post by Kaladin Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:11 am

Still haven't touched Miz v Cena, tempted to get it over with quick
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:12 am

It's best you pretend it doesn't exist tbh Laughing
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Post by Onyx Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:12 am

Start of 2011 wasn't the greatest of periods, but I prefer it to now. Liked the roster better, had a classic WWE feel to it, RAW was 2 hours and Cenawinslol > Reigns. Oh and Rock was part of RTWM.


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Post by M99 Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:13 am

I recently discovered this rofl Absolutely killed me rofl

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