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Post by Onyx Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:37 pm

Punk now a writer for Marvel. hmm


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Post by CM Pep Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:13 pm

Punk and Frank Castle :bow: :bow:
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Post by Kaladin Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:37 pm


According to the latest issue of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, the following is the latest rumored card for WWE Payback 2016:

WWE World Heavyweight Championship
- Roman Reigns (c) vs. AJ Styles

WWE Women's Championship
- Charlotte (c) vs. Natalya

- Dean Ambrose vs. Chris Jericho

- Sami Zayn vs. Kevin Owens

- The Wyatt Family vs. The League Of Nations

- The Dudley Boyz vs. Enzo Amore & Big Cass

- Becky Lynch vs. Emma

WWE Payback airs live on the WWE Network on Sunday, May 1, 2016 from the Allstate Arena in Rosemont, Illinois.

http://nodq.com/wwe/462131547.shtml
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:00 pm

I saw that, looks a good card imo.

My only question marks is a PPV without New Day and Sasha Banks? have a hard time believing that Laughing
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Post by Onyx Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:14 pm

Jobber card imo. Absolutely 0 star power. hmm

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:17 pm

Star power Laughing

Mania had star power, look how that worked out. Couldn't care less about that, all that matters is that the matches are entertaining and they tell good stories.

Not some meaningless cliched term which means absolutely nothing.
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Post by RealGunner Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:24 pm

In what world is that a good card

2 divas matches ffs. Zayn vs Owens should be good though. Styles vs Reigns will be good for banter. No interest at all in anything else
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:30 pm

@RealGunner wrote:In what world is that a good card

2 divas matches ffs. Zayn vs Owens should be good though. Styles vs Reigns will be good for banter. No interest at all in anything else


The divas match at Mania was the best match on the card, i would have thought that would have taught you that they aint the piss break anymore.

Also Styles and Reigns will be good, Reigns puts on good matches with good people the idea that he's crap in the ring is a myth and far from the problem people have with Reigns.

Jericho and Ambrose will be good, Jericho has been great in 2016 and M99 will back me up in this and Ambrose usually puts at least good matches plus the build up will be good anyway.

I probably agree on the tag team matches but that's about it.
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Post by Jay29 Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:34 pm

Zayn/Owens will be good. Jericho/Ambrose could be good, depends on Jericho I guess. Reigns/AJ Styles I'm not too sure about but it's intriguing pairing on its own.

Not sure about the rest. I know Charlotte and Becky Lynch are good but not so sure about Natalia and Emma. The tag team matches look forgettable.

Also have to lol if the tag titles, US title and IC title are defended on the pre-show.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:39 pm

Natalya's matches with Charlotte are some of the best Women's matches tbh, only problem is it's obvious Charlotte will win.

Emma has been really good in NXT, so i don't really have a problem with that.

I agree on the Tag Team matches, Dudleys are only really there to put Enzo/Cass over and League of Nations are there to allow Wyatts to beat them down lol.

So both are important for story progression purposes even if i expect the matches themselves to be meh.
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Post by Onyx Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:39 pm

It is a jobber card imo, nothing interesting and no big matches.

And 2 divas matches lol. 1's bad enough. hmm

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:41 pm

@Onyx wrote:It is a jobber card imo, nothing interesting and no big matches.

And 2 divas matches lol. 1's bad enough. hmm


Again though, there was apparent big matches at Mania and they were all crap.

Substance > Hype, also if there is going to be a Womens division you can't just have one match lol. You have to build it like it or not. Because you are so childish and insecure to see past it all is not really their problem.
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Post by Jay29 Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:42 pm

Admittedly I haven't seen Natalya or Emma wrestle in about a year or so Laughing

I'd say that Zayn/Owens is the only unpredictable match there. Zayn should probably go over because he's new to the roster but it depends on how long they want to keep it going.

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Post by Onyx Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:44 pm

I don't want a divas division though, it's just a piss break. It's just WWE jumping onto womens rights bandwagon / Ronda Rousey. hmm

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:45 pm

It's a real blood feud so i wouldn't be surprised if it goes on a while tbh hmm
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:47 pm

@Onyx wrote:I don't want a divas division though, it's just a piss break. It's just WWE jumping onto womens rights bandwagon / Ronda Rousey. hmm


No it isn't, they genuinely deserve it because they are good enough.

We get it you want Bra and Panties Laughing But most people are grown up enough to give them a chance and not desperate to see sex appeal.

Bra and Panties is basically porn for 10 year olds, sure it was good then when you had nothing else but who cares honestly if i wanted to see that i'd get laid.


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Post by Jay29 Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:49 pm

If it's a long-term thing I can see Zayn losing at Payback and then being built up for a big win at Extreme Rules or Summerslam. Or at least that's how I'd book it.

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Post by RealGunner Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:51 pm

why exactly will ambrose and y2j start a feud? makes no sense

Yea i hope zayn and owens feud is actually a long feud which reaches its conclusion at Sumemrslam
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:51 pm

@Jay29 wrote:If it's a long-term thing I can see Zayn losing at Payback and then being built up for a big win at Extreme Rules or Summerslam. Or at least that's how I'd book it.


Yeah that seems like the most sensible outcome, but unfortunately they are not always sensible. Laughing
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:52 pm

@RealGunner wrote:why exactly will ambrose and y2j start a feud? makes no sense

Yea i hope zayn and owens feud is actually a long feud which reaches its conclusion at Sumemrslam


We are about to find out hmm

That's why it's rumoured the feud technically hasn't started yet. I just think on paper it would be good because Heel Jericho is good at setting these things up and unlike with Styles i don't think they have worked together on a PPV program before. hmm


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Post by Onyx Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:53 pm

Giving them more time or longer matches isn't the right way imo. Doing that is just a cheap hopeful shortcut. Remember the goal here isn't to appreciate their wrestling skills, it's to make people care about them as a whole. The longer matches will come with time.

What would make me care about the divas? Big storylines. Put them into main event/midcard storylines with males and I'd watch them. But giving divas more time is the equivalent of giving male jobbers more time. It won't make a difference. Laughing


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Post by Jay29 Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:53 pm

Isn't it just a case of Jericho and Ambrose having nobody to work atm because Styles is main eventing and Lesnar has pissed off for a bit?

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Post by RealGunner Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:54 pm

I think Zayn will get quite popular with most.
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Post by RealGunner Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:54 pm

Lesnar's next squash feud should be interesting

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:55 pm

@Onyx wrote:Giving them more time or longer matches isn't the right way imo. Doing that is just a cheap hopeful shortcut. Remember the goal here isn't to appreciate their wrestling skills, it's to make people care about them as a whole. The longer matches will come with time.

What would make me care about the divas? Big storylines. Put them into main event/midcard storylines with males and I'd watch them. But giving divas more time is the equivalent of giving male jobbers more time. It won't make a difference. Laughing


The two matches in question do have storylines behind them though. Albeit it only started this week so there is probably more to come from them but still.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:56 pm

@Jay29 wrote:Isn't it just a case of Jericho and Ambrose having nobody to work atm because Styles is main eventing and Lesnar has pissed off for a bit?


Possibly Laughing Jericho as a heel is entertaining though IMO so i think they can make it work.
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