Re: Homosexuals in football...

by PedroBR Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:52 pm

Why my post was deleted?

by Vibe Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:56 pm

Because your nickname resembles Pedobear.

by IzzyC08 Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:57 pm

Sushi Master wrote:
IzzyC08 wrote:
Sushi Master wrote:You kidding? They'd get constantly harrassed by the media, team mates might not look at them the same, some would get doubled up on racist and then homophobic abuse...

If you still have problems with racism, it's pretty obvious what would happen.

Unfortunately, most of the world is a big, huge homophobe.

Who is this directed at??
At you, but mostly in general. Oh, they're only slaves, who cares?. Oh, but it's only gays, who cares?

Sexuality is a big part of who you are, and constantly living in a lie is not what I'd call enjoyable. If you wanna hook up with guys, you can't. If you wanna do things that might not be considered "manly", you can't (although Ronaldo does it ). The cultural pressure against gays is bad enough, but I imagine it must be worse being a star constantly under the spotlight and your life dissected daily by the media.

It would be good for someone important to come and and say "yeah, I'm gay. So what?". I'm sure plenty would follow.

I didn't mean for it to come out in a negative way. I was just saying people shouldn't be too concerned with another's sexuality. That isn't why I watch football or keep track of players.

by Guiltybystander Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:58 pm

free_cat wrote:It depends on the country. I agree that in Germany or Spain there wouldn't be a problem at all. People is open-minded.

However, it is also true that gay men are less interested in football, and I'm pretty sure they are underrepresented in professional football, but sure there are more than 0.

Eh, probably not so accepted in Spain. Germany, Netherlands, other North-European countries that are not the UK, USA: I can see it. Not because these countries are necessarily less homophobic (come on, US), but because I think football culture is less immersed with the whole machismo element there.

by PedroBR Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:05 pm

VibeTribe wrote:Because your nickname resembles Pedobear.

hahahaha lol!!
It's my name + abbreviation of brazilian

by M99 Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:08 pm

Giancarlo would have had some interesting stuff to say here.

by Senor Penguin Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:36 pm

free_cat wrote:It depends on the country. I agree that in Germany or Spain there wouldn't be a problem at all. People is open-minded.

However, it is also true that gay men are less interested in football, and I'm pretty sure they are underrepresented in professional football, but sure there are more than 0.

How do you know? And why?

by NiallQuinnsdiscoPants Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:17 pm

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article2419068.ece

by mowgli Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:40 pm

InterMalia wrote:
Andres Iniesta wrote:Thought Cambiasso was a gay man

Why?

Op: I have no intresst in who/what players do in their spare time.

I understand you may not have any interest though a player like fashanu's career was destroyed based on rumours that he was gay. So I'm pretty sure that people do care. It wasn't his footballing ability but his private life that brought him down.

by free_cat Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:37 am

Guiltybystander wrote:
free_cat wrote:It depends on the country. I agree that in Germany or Spain there wouldn't be a problem at all. People is open-minded.

However, it is also true that gay men are less interested in football, and I'm pretty sure they are underrepresented in professional football, but sure there are more than 0.

Eh, probably not so accepted in Spain. Germany, Netherlands, other North-European countries that are not the UK, USA: I can see it. Not because these countries are necessarily less homophobic (come on, US), but because I think football culture is less immersed with the whole machismo element there.

Maybe. But Spain is one of the countries more liberal to gays in the world. Not only gay marriage is legal, but also most of the prime-time gossip shows are conducted by gay men.

by free_cat Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:39 am

Senor Penguin wrote:
free_cat wrote:It depends on the country. I agree that in Germany or Spain there wouldn't be a problem at all. People is open-minded.

However, it is also true that gay men are less interested in football, and I'm pretty sure they are underrepresented in professional football, but sure there are more than 0.
How do you know? And why?

I don't really have any statistical data to confirm that or anything, it's just an impression based on acquaintances that are gay and none of them like football.

by Art Morte Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:57 am

In men-only groups there's always a lot of joking about women and sex and some gay jokes, too. Much of this culture would become akward if homosexuals were to make their sexuality known within the group (unless there's a rather big number of them in the group).

I'm not saying they shouldn't be able to freely express their sexuality, but I think we all know the above statement to be a fact.

by guest7 Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:01 am

by Giovanni10 Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:20 am

omarish wrote:

lol, a tender moment there....

Anyways, "group hug in the showers tonight!!"

by Keyzar Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:40 pm

I expect neg reps and even worse for what i'm about state here, nonetheless i'm stating and i don't care about the response.

Football and the world at large would have been better without gay people, simply they don't belong in this world.

by ÖMARz Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:45 pm

Keyzar wrote:I expect neg reps and even worse for what i'm about state here, nonetheless i'm stating and i don't care about the response.

Football and the world at large would have been better without gay people, simply they don't belong in this world.

i agree with you. homosexuals have no place in this world, nor in football. gtfo.

on the contrary....i like lesbians.. tongue

by Guiltybystander Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:50 pm

Wow, utter stupidity those two last posts. Especially the last one.

by Senor Penguin Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:23 pm

Keyzar wrote:I expect neg reps and even worse for what i'm about state here, nonetheless i'm stating and i don't care about the response.

Football and the world at large would have been better without gay people, simply they don't belong in this world.

Homosexuals in football... - Page 2 Cristiano-Ronaldo-Shorts-Style

by DeviAngel Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:32 pm

Its their choice and their sexual orientation ...and I can't judge that and I don't have the right to do so ....

btw no offense to barca fans I think Xavi is gay Smile

he lives with his mom and still has no gf ? ( If Its true)

by The Nature Boy Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:36 pm

no offense to arsenal and barca fans, but i get the impression that most of those players have sex with eachother

by The Nature Boy Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:37 pm

...which doesnt hurt the way they play the beautiful game.

by DagenhamDave Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:42 pm

years ago two west ham players trevor morley and ian bishop were found in bed with eachother by trevor morleys wife. trevor morley was then stabbed by his wife.

by Senor Penguin Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:48 pm

DeviAngel wrote:Its their choice and their sexual orientation ...and I can't judge that and I don't have the right to do so ....

btw no offense to barca fans I think Xavi is gay he lives with his mom and still has no gf ? ( If Its true)

Xavi isn't gay. He's just an obnoxious dwarf that only a woman with a double digit IQ would want.

by The Nature Boy Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:50 pm

... he tweazes/waxes his eyebrows more than most women do.

Xavi, Cesc, Dani Alves, Arshavin, Bendtner, and Busquets are definitly all staring at eachothers c*cks in the shower

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:51 pm

Senor Penguin wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:Its their choice and their sexual orientation ...and I can't judge that and I don't have the right to do so ....

btw no offense to barca fans I think Xavi is gay he lives with his mom and still has no gf ? ( If Its true)
Xavi isn't gay. He's just an obnoxious dwarf that only a woman with a double digit IQ would want.

90% of them then?

by JuvenelCuore Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:05 pm

Luciano Moggi, who was at the helm of Juventus, delivered his rant on the programme KlausCondico.

The 70-year-old - who has been embroiled in an allegedcorruption scandal - said:
"There are no gays in football.

"I don't know if players are against having them in their team but I definitely am.

"In the teams where I worked there were never any. I never wanted to have a homosexual player and I still wouldn't sign one.

"I'm old school but I know the ambience of football and a gay wouldn't be able to survive within it.

"A homosexual cannot do the job of a footballer. The football world is not designed for them, it's a special atmosphere, one in which you stand naked under the showers."

There are no openly gay footballers in any of the major European leagues.
The only reasonably well known player to have come out while playing was Justin Fashanu, in England in the 1980s.

Rumours are abound about many players in internet chat rooms but still the subject remains something of a taboo in football.

Former Argentina coach Daniel Passarella was quoted by Argentine newspapers before the 1998 World Cup as saying that he did not want gays or long haired players on his team.

Last year, the country hosted the 'gay World Cup'.

Not necessarily my views, just adding to the conversation is all.