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Post by Casciavit Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:02 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
zizzle wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Suarez is miles better lol, why are you pretending that isn't factor.

What he did at his last season at Liverpool Higuain couldn't dream of doing on his playstation.



Who in the PL would pay that lol? City? got Aguero, Arsenal? already turned him down for a lot less, Man Yoo? just spent obscene amounts on Martial so will go with him until he proves hes not good enough and Chelsea? they have Costa so again no it isn't happening lol.


Say that Suarez is the best striker in the world, people complain, dont say that Suarez is the best striker in the world and other people complain...

Yes Suarez is better, i already mentioned that in this thread, but let's not act like the market is about who's better, its about supply and demand and for the supply part there isnt anyone better on the market.
Now when it comes to demand you're simply ignoring football logic. PSG will have to replace Ibra soon, Costa is misfiring, United doesnt have a STRIKER, and Arsenal has Giroud (and Wenger but you get the point). That's not taking into consideration Tottenham who always spend big and the possibility that Liverpool starts buying quality not quantity.


PSG are going to replace Ibra with Higuain when they already have Cavani? now whose ignoring football logic lol.

United does have a striker, they spent 50+ on one who is 19 years old and will stay with him until he proves he's shit. As long as Mourinho is manager there is no way in hell Chelsea sign him and they have no reason to buy a striker at the moment.

Wenger has already rejected him for like 15m less Laughing

The fact is most of footballs elite already have strikers who are either better, with potential to be better or in general they are just happy with like Costa.

There is a reason when Higuain left Madrid he went to Napoli lol, you don't choose to go to Napoli.... he went there because the better teams already had a first team striker they were happy with or they were Wenger.

Seems like to me that i'm the only one using logic tbh hmm


Exactly. No top player chooses to go to Napoli of all places Laughing

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:03 pm

To be fair, Wenger only rejected him so that when Higgy wins capocannoniere he can say "I almost signed him"
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Post by RealGunner Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:07 pm

Wouldn't say we rejected him. But we got pissed off at the last minute price hike. Deal was going to be done for around 25m, it went up to 40m.

Wish we had signed him though tbh.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:20 pm

RealGunner wrote:Wouldn't say we rejected him. But we got pissed off at the last minute price hike. Deal was going to be done for around 25m, it went up to 40m.

Wish we had signed him though tbh.


That's the point though isn't it? no way in hell that Wenger would pay 50m for him lol.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:36 pm

Still cant believe we got 40 for him from Napoli. And just to reiterate, most elite teams do have a player that is better, has potential to be better, and higuain is just not worth fighting with de laurentis to get...

madrid... forget it
barca...lol
bayern...lol
chelsea...they have costa who isnt so different from higuain, and mourinho doesnt like him
united have martial
city...forget it
pool...already overspent on a scrub benteke for as much, + sturridge

and so on...

Higuain is right were he needs to be, low expectation club, weak league, finally at 28 playing the best football of his life. But how quickly do we forget that he missed crucial moments not that long ago that would have made the difference for his team?

and now after two months of footy between september and october when nothing matters he has now become somekind of super elite guy?

please stop
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Post by urbaNRoots Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:23 pm

Left foot, top corner.

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Post by breva Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:27 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Still cant believe we got 40 for him from Napoli. And just to reiterate, most elite teams do have a player that is better, has potential to be better, and higuain is just not worth fighting with de laurentis to get...

madrid... forget it
barca...lol
bayern...lol
chelsea...they have costa who isnt so different from higuain, and mourinho doesnt like him
united have martial
city...forget it
pool...already overspent on a scrub benteke for as much, + sturridge

and so on...

Higuain is right were he needs to be, low expectation club, weak league, finally at 28 playing the best football of his life. But how quickly do we forget that he missed crucial moments not that long ago that would have made the difference for his team?

and now after two months of footy between september and october when nothing matters he has now become somekind of super elite guy?

please stop


Weak league. LOL
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Post by Robespierre Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:57 pm

In Serie A it's more difficult to score than in other leagues because of defensive tactics.
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Post by El Blanco Madridista Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:36 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
Higuain is right were he needs to be, low expectation club, weak league, finally at 28 playing the best football of his life. But how quickly do we forget that he missed crucial moments not that long ago that would have made the difference for his team?

and now after two months of footy between september and october when nothing matters he has now become somekind of super elite guy?

please stop

28yo is never too late to start reaching your peak. In fact, most strikers start reaching their peak in that age. And if we go by your logic, Higuain should have retired after Copa America.

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Post by M99 Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:21 am

Robespierre wrote:In Serie A it's more difficult to score than in other leagues because of defensive tactics.


Exactly. That's the reason you hardly see anyone score 30+ in a year.
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Post by McAgger Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:31 am

That's actually true, I think Toni is the only person to score 30 goals in Serie A since like 1950s.
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Post by chad4401 Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:37 am

you know what funny about this? If higs fails when its crunch time again, all of you gonna go quiet for a month, and start a new thread like this after couple goals.
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:36 am

Higgy is in a hell of a form atm. Not surprising he has always been good in the leagues. Its Europe he struggled with at Madrid
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Post by Curtinho Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:47 pm

Yeah but he's been great in Europe the last 2 season anyway.

Haters gonna hate, but Higuain will probably just keep scoring. Even when he's not scoring though he's providing goals and running his ass off. Grit. Perfect for Kloppo.
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Post by chad4401 Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:52 pm

Curtinho wrote:Yeah but he's been great in Europe the last 2 season anyway.

Haters gonna hate, but Higuain will probably just keep scoring. Even when he's not scoring though he's providing goals and running his ass off. Grit. Perfect for Kloppo.


how many cl goals does higs have? and im sure he failed in cl qualifiers as well, sheep gonna sheep.
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Post by LeBéninois Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:12 pm

It's time for him to be back in the CL. Too good for Napoli.
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Post by Curtinho Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:36 pm

chad4401 wrote:how many cl goals does higs have? and im sure he failed in cl qualifiers as well, sheep gonna sheep.

It's weird that you seem to think you need to put Higuain down as though he's still a threat to your mancrush.

Also Higuain was the best player in his CL group with Arsenal and Dortmund over guys like Reus and Lewandowski (4 goals and 2 assists in 5 games btw, just for you).

It's obvious why you have a huge grudge against him, but aside from the overblown 'clutch' misses he's had he's been one of the best CFs in the world and has really shone since leaving RM. He does everything (scores, provides, huge work rate).

Haters gonna hate though.
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Post by Doc Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:43 pm

Years of defending and "defending" Benzema against the Higgyists has made young Chad very peculiar when it comes to this topic. That being said, I agree with the whole premise of your point Curtinho though you really can't downplay his lack of clutch when he was with Madrid.

He really had some serious big game issues with us.
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Post by Pedram Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:55 pm

The fact that Chad feels the need to belittle Higuain's accomplishments shows how much he's insecure about Benzema.

Chad i'm worried about you mate, this level of obsession is unhealthy.
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Post by Curtinho Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:43 pm

Doc wrote:Years of defending and "defending" Benzema against the Higgyists has made young Chad very peculiar when it comes to this topic. That being said, I agree with the whole premise of your point Curtinho though you really can't downplay his lack of clutch when he was with Madrid.

He really had some serious big game issues with us.

Yeah I agree. He has had some big game issues before, but I think part of it is just bad luck. Look up studies on 'clutch' and how it's viewed versus statistical samples.

With that said he's been pretty big in big games for Napoli since moving there, and aside from a couple games with Argentina (where again, I'd say he was more unlucky than bad...especially since nobody else was creating the chances that he was) since coming out from under Ronaldo's shadow (as he spoke about) I think he's become an even better player and improved a lot since moving away from RM.

It's hard to say obviously because his pricetag right now is huge and it'll be interesting to see if any of the big clubs will buy big on him (honestly, they should).
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Post by Harmonica Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:44 pm

I'll take him as elite striker when he's not eaten by the pressure. He's always been great scorer, just not under pressure.
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Post by chad4401 Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:02 pm

lmao this forum is amazing, who go out of their to hate on a player like this forum does with benzema? any striker crap to decent are always better than cause reasons(stupidity).

higuain is a flop and always been a flop for years, its poster like you lot who always never seem to remember a bad game from him, who can't taken be seriously can't get over miss from 2010 for benzema, but can forgive higs for flopping his ass just a few months ago rofl, elite striker who can't get out qualifiers for the CL.

what said is fact once he flops all of you gonna avoid this thread and wait until next season to resume, same shit every season.
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Post by chad4401 Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:09 pm

remember when higuain never misses clear chances was a thing? even countless times he as been through on a 1v1, that lyon game was epic, man city, barca, bvb failed in clear 1v1 situations, all games that must never be brought up rofl.... if he never missed so badly in a FREAKING WC FINALS, a large majority of the jokers on this forum would still be spreading that myth Laughing.
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Post by Lord Spencer Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:18 pm

chad4401 wrote:lmao this forum is amazing, who go out of their to hate on a player like this forum does with benzema? any striker crap to decent are always better than cause reasons(stupidity).

higuain is a flop and always been a flop for years, its poster like you lot who always never seem to remember a bad game from him, who can't taken be seriously can't get over miss from 2010 for benzema, but can forgive higs for flopping his ass just a few months ago rofl, elite striker who can't get out qualifiers for the CL.

what said is fact once he flops all of you gonna avoid this thread and wait until next season to resume, same shit every season.


In that way, you are perfect embodiment of the forum then.

Who goes out of his way into a thread IMAGINING hate for Benzema.

He would never be mentioned, then you would materialize something from thin air.

This is a thread about Higuain finally proving himself now, if you are going to come in and bring up the past, then go *bleep* read the OP. Because riding Benz's big D in every thread is getting damn annoying.
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Post by chad4401 Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:25 pm

so many sheep coming in full force, damn the truth hurt and i didn't even bring up benzema you asshat, learn to read your a sheep and when higs flop your all gonna hit reset.
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Post by Doc Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:57 pm

So after doing the sheeple thing to do and read an entire thread, only a very few people actually mentioned Benzema. Arq made the mention in his post w.r.t the Benzema-Higgy debates of yore.

Courtesy of the Madrid: Benzema v Higuain debate that has raged on within GL for years, his some underwhelming performances against big moments have been magnified on this forum given it has been used as a consistent crux in support of the debate in favour for Benzema, hence why it all his failures in some big matches are far far more scrutinized then other strikers as it is similar to Zlatan's failures in some CL matches despite his record and countless performances within the CL.

I think Andrew of Juve, LePrada and Nick tried to be mischievous but everyone, from all accounts, try to keep the discussion Benzema free.

Yes, Higuain would inevitably go cold in a big match and everyone would be like "see, another big match, another failure" and then some others would say "So x match and y match isn't big" and Mole would be like "lol, no" and all sorts of repetition until he scores against Juve in Turin and we restart the process.

TL:DR Move on man, Higgy is no longer a problem to you or yours and people are fans of him.
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