Re: Barclay's Premier League '14-'15 discussion V9

by Hapless_Hans Sun 3 May 2015 - 1:21

maybe someone should assassinate Ashley then? hmm

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun 3 May 2015 - 1:22

I'd be willing to pay good money for that hmm

by Unique Sun 3 May 2015 - 1:26

Hapless_Hans wrote:
MR BOND wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:

If Liverpool had won against Hull and West Brom they'd now be in top 4.
Unforgivable. Disgraceful. Bottled a unique chance, a second year out of CL would have been getting dangerous for Utd.
and if my brother was a woman he would be my sister.

Different thing. Your brother being a man is not unforgivable and disgraceful, in itself.
Hapless_Hans wrote:_Hans"]
MR BOND wrote:
and if my brother was a woman he would be my sister.

Different thing. Your brother being a man is not unforgivable and disgraceful, in itself.
that's a bit strong don't you think. looks like your the kind of fan that looks at his team in disgrace if they lose a game. most football fans are better than that.

by Hapless_Hans Sun 3 May 2015 - 1:26

thank god for the 50+1 rule. The very word 'owner' should be unacceptable in club football tbh.

by Hapless_Hans Sun 3 May 2015 - 1:29

Mr Bond, you don't understand.
Most reasonable people hate Utd, and were rooting for Liverpool.
Top 4 was handed to you on a silver platter.

You let us down. That's inexcusable.

by Unique Sun 3 May 2015 - 1:35

Hapless_Hans wrote:Mr Bond, you don't understand.
Most reasonable people hate Utd, and were rooting for Liverpool.
Top 4 was handed to you on a silver platter.

You let us down. That's inexcusable.

im not sure how that's a disgrace tbh. will you call Bayern a disgrace if thay don't win the champions lge.

by Hapless_Hans Sun 3 May 2015 - 1:37

MR BOND wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:Mr Bond, you don't understand.
Most reasonable people hate Utd, and were rooting for Liverpool.
Top 4 was handed to you on a silver platter.

You let us down. That's inexcusable.
im not sure how that's a disgrace tbh. will you call Bayern a disgrace if thay don't win the champions lge.

If winning the CL could be accomplished by wins over Hull and West Brom, I would hmm

by Unique Sun 3 May 2015 - 1:44

Hapless_Hans wrote:
MR BOND wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:Mr Bond, you don't understand.
Most reasonable people hate Utd, and were rooting for Liverpool.
Top 4 was handed to you on a silver platter.

You let us down. That's inexcusable.
im not sure how that's a disgrace tbh. will you call Bayern a disgrace if thay don't win the champions lge.

If winning the CL could be accomplished by wins over Hull and West Brom, I would

so you clap when you win. then boo when you lose. a club like Bayern deserves better fans than that. still that's what you get from glory hunting fair weather fans.

by McAgger Sun 3 May 2015 - 1:50

cmon Bond, he's right ffs.

We would be in the FA Cup final and in top 4 right now had we beaten 3 relegation fodders in succession. Completely inexcusable for the club of Liverpool's stature. heck it's arguable that the 3 matches were probably the most important period of the season for us.

We got outplayed in all 3, showing zero heart and playing like shit.

People love to look over a season an claim that blah blah Chelsea, Arsenal, United, City have money money than us and pay bigger wages than us, and can attract better players.

But our season has fallen to shit not because of those teams being too good.Our season has gone to shit because we can't even beat the likes of Basel, Besiktas, Aston Villa, WBA, and Hull.

by Hapless_Hans Sun 3 May 2015 - 1:51

I admit I'd boo if Bayern would draw against West Brom and then lose to Hull, when that meant not reaching a CL quali spot.

by Unique Sun 3 May 2015 - 1:52

Hapless_Hans wrote:I admit I'd boo if Bayern would draw against West Brom and then lose to Hull, when that meant not reaching a CL quali spot.

then that would make you a piss poor fan tbh.

by Hapless_Hans Sun 3 May 2015 - 1:55

Let me put it this way.
If my Bayern team would bottle CL quali against Hull and West Brom, they'd have to walk alone for a bit hmm

by Unique Sun 3 May 2015 - 1:56

Don't call me James wrote:cmon Bond, he's right ffs.

We would be in the FA Cup final and in top 4 right now had we beaten 3 relegation fodders in succession. Completely inexcusable for the club of Liverpool's stature. heck it's arguable that the 3 matches were probably the most important period of the season for us.

We got outplayed in all 3, showing zero heart and playing like shit.

People love to look over a season an claim that blah blah Chelsea, Arsenal, United, City have money money than us and pay bigger wages than us, and can attract better players.

But our season has fallen to shit not because of those teams being too good.Our season has gone to shit because we can't even beat the likes of Basel, Besiktas, Aston Villa, WBA, and Hull.

I agree they were bad results. but to call the team a disgrace and boo them is not something a good fan does imo. now if Bayern winning games makes hans feel like he is the king of the world then fair play to him.

by Hapless_Hans Sun 3 May 2015 - 1:57

we lost today tbf Laughing

by McAgger Sun 3 May 2015 - 1:59

Actually there's no rule book on how to be a fan. In your opinion being a fan means never booing the team and the manager no matter what. I disagree with that. When the manager is clearly an idiot and the players play like they don't give a shit, I wouldn't just boo them, if I had the chance I would pummel them to the ground and give them a good ol' beating.

by Unique Sun 3 May 2015 - 2:00

Hapless_Hans wrote:Let me put it this way.
If my Bayern team would bottle CL quali against Hull and West Brom, they'd have to walk alone for a bit

its down to you how you support ( or don't ) support your team. but the reason Liverpool fans are world famous is not for the way they support the team when they win. but for the way they support the team when they lose.

by Unique Sun 3 May 2015 - 2:02

Don't call me James wrote:Actually there's no rule book on how to be a fan. In your opinion being a fan means never booing the team and the manager no matter what. I disagree with that. When the manager is clearly an idiot and the players play like they don't give a shit, I wouldn't just boo them, if I had the chance I would pummel them to the ground and give them a good ol' beating.

then your not interested in supporting the team. your only interested in a team that wins. I want the team to win every game. but I have no time for glory hunters that only sing when they win.

by Hapless_Hans Sun 3 May 2015 - 2:02

MR BOND wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:Let me put it this way.
If my Bayern team would bottle CL quali against Hull and West Brom, they'd have to walk alone for a bit
its down to you how you support ( or don't ) support your team. but the reason Liverpool fans are world famous is not for the way they support the team when they win. but for the way they support the team when they lose.

that's a bit unfair to fans of other top teams, who quite simply don't get that many chances to show that kind of support like Liverpool fans do hmm

by Unique Sun 3 May 2015 - 2:13

Hapless_Hans wrote:
MR BOND wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:Let me put it this way.
If my Bayern team would bottle CL quali against Hull and West Brom, they'd have to walk alone for a bit
its down to you how you support ( or don't ) support your team. but the reason Liverpool fans are world famous is not for the way they support the team when they win. but for the way they support the team when they lose.

that's a bit unfair to fans of other top teams, who quite simply don't get that many chances to show that kind of support like Liverpool fans do

you made a good point there mate. fans of top teams last as long as the team are winning. fans of a great club do a bit more than that.

by Hapless_Hans Sun 3 May 2015 - 2:19

MR BOND wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:
MR BOND wrote:
its down to you how you support ( or don't ) support your team. but the reason Liverpool fans are world famous is not for the way they support the team when they win. but for the way they support the team when they lose.

that's a bit unfair to fans of other top teams, who quite simply don't get that many chances to show that kind of support like Liverpool fans do
you made a good point there mate. fans of top teams last as long as the team are winning. fans of a great club do a bit more than that.

that wasn't my point though.

by Unique Sun 3 May 2015 - 2:24

Hapless_Hans wrote:
MR BOND wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:

that's a bit unfair to fans of other top teams, who quite simply don't get that many chances to show that kind of support like Liverpool fans do
you made a good point there mate. fans of top teams last as long as the team are winning. fans of a great club do a bit more than that.

that wasn't my point though.

you don't have a point.

by Hapless_Hans Sun 3 May 2015 - 2:31

Actually I've had 2 different points, and I'm happy to repeat them for you.

1. Liverpool not reaching top 4 under these circumstances is an epic fail.

2. If Liverpool fans appear to be more supportive in losses than other top teams' fans, that's merely due to the simple fact Liverpool lose more games than those teams.

by mr-r34 Sun 3 May 2015 - 2:33

Hans is right, even after losing to united and arsenal back to back, it was games against lower club that cost us, to think *bleep* hull(Disgraceful loss) and a draw to WBA cost us the top4, FML. We nearly *bleep* bottled it against QPR, missing out on top 4 his year which when we could of done it can only be blamed on ourselves.

by Unique Sun 3 May 2015 - 2:37

Hapless_Hans wrote:Actually I've had 2 different points, and I'm happy to repeat them for you.

1. Liverpool not reaching top 4 under these circumstances is an epic fail.

2. If Liverpool fans appear to be more supportive in losses than other top teams' fans, that's merely due to the simple fact Liverpool lose more games than those teams.

Liverpool lost the best 2 strikers in world football from last season so that's going to hit hard. and Liverpool are one of the most successful clubs in world football. so the fans have seen plenty of wins. the difernce is. unlike glory hunting fair weather fans. they also give great support when things are not going great. you should try it mate. the next time your team is not doing great support them. don't just clap when they win.

by Unique Sun 3 May 2015 - 2:40

mr-r34 wrote:Hans is right, even after losing to united and arsenal back to back, it was games against lower club that cost us, to think *bleep* hull(Disgraceful loss) and a draw to WBA cost us the top4, FML. We nearly *bleep* bottled it against QPR, missing out on top 4 his year which when we could of done it can only be blamed on ourselves.

what you say is true. we could have. and should be doing better. but to say the team is a disgrace is nothing more than a dumb comment from a glory hunting fan that follows a team that wins.

by M99 Sun 3 May 2015 - 2:42

No one is telling you to stop SUPPORTING them when they lost to Hull and West Brom. Liverpool fans and neutrals who don't like Man Utd are FRUSTRATED and INFURIATED at them for losing games that they easily could have won. Showing frustration and being angry at your team is part of being a fan. To be a fan you support teams at their bad times but you should also not accept them for being bad in the first place...that's how you settle for mediocrity.

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