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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue May 13, 2014 1:12 am

RED who would you pick over Johnson, Lampard and Milner?

I struggle to think of anyone, maybe Barry for Lampard but that's about it.

We just have no decent defenders other than whats picked and same goes for CM, those who have been picked are all we have.

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Post by RED Tue May 13, 2014 1:17 am

Lampard and Milner's inclusion is questionable but understandable.

As for Johnson, I would stick Jones there. May not be as good going forward as Johnson is, but atleast he could defend, which is more important.
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Post by DeletedUser#1 Tue May 13, 2014 1:24 am

12 months ago: Substitute in LFC u-21, no team even in league 2 would take him on loan.

Now: Cafu flied an ocean to meet him, going to Brazil with England squad for the WC (Roy said stones and him are going to the camp with rest of the team).

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue May 13, 2014 1:50 am

RED wrote:Lampard and Milner's inclusion is questionable but understandable.

As for Johnson, I would stick Jones there. May not be as good going forward as Johnson is, but atleast he could defend, which is more important.

Jones is going mate, he's going to cover Johnson and CB position.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue May 13, 2014 1:51 am

hogson said that is jones is not fit by june 2nd, he is calling Stones


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue May 13, 2014 1:53 am

I would like to see Stones, really promising talent.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue May 13, 2014 2:00 am

i cant even rate english talents anymore. Doesnt help that i dont watch them much, but everyone is always announced as the next big thing.
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Post by Jay29 Tue May 13, 2014 2:09 am

I've already had a bit of a moan about it on Twitter, but it's a shame that Clyne and Gibbs have been overlooked, not just for this World Cup squad but for the whole season in general. Neither are spectacular going forward in the same way Baines, Shaw and Johnson are, but they're solid defenders, more so than the full backs currently in the squad.

Gerrard being the only holding midfielder in the squad is a worry, too. I'm not sure what Lampard's role in this team would be and would have taken Carrick or Barry instead to give us another option in case something happens to Gerrard.

The rest of the squad I'm happy with. If Walcott were available he may have gone instead of Milner, but otherwise plenty of good attacking talent there. It looks built for pressing and quick, direct football, though I suspect Hodgson will use a more cautious approach.

My starting eleven: Hart; Jones, Cahill, Jagielka, Baines; Gerrard, Henderson, Wilshere; Sturridge, Lallana, Rooney

Barkley, Sterling, Chamberlain, Welbeck and Lambert are good options from the bench.



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Post by che Tue May 13, 2014 2:20 am

that midfield looks like it will get ripped to shreds by every single half decent counterattacking team tbh

why has england after all these years in continental competition still failed to develop a competent defensive midfielder?
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue May 13, 2014 2:43 am

Gardiens :
Itandje (Konyaspor/TUR), Ndy Assembé (Guingamp/FRA), Ndjock (Fetihespor/TUR), Feudjou (Coton Sport)

Défenseurs :
Nyom (Grenade/ESP), Nounkeu (Besiktas/TUR), Djeugoue (Coton Sport), Chedjou (Galatasaray/TUR), Nkoulou (OM/FRA), Kana-Biyik (Rennes/FRA), Bedimo (Lyon/FRA), Assou-Ekotto (QPR/ANG), Bong (Olympiakos/GRE)

Milieux :
Enoh (Antalyaspor/TUR), Makoun (Rennes/FRA), Matip (Schalke/ALL), Mbia (Séville/ESP), Nguémo (Bordeaux/FRA), Song (FC Barcelone/ESP), Loe (Osasuna/ESP), Sally (Lens/FRA)

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Eto’o (Chelsea/ANG), Choupo Moting (Mayence/ALL), Moukandjo (Nancy/FRA), Aboubakar (Lorient/FRA), Webo (Fenerbahçe/TUR), Idrissou (Kaiserslautern/ALL), Olinga (Zulte-Waregem/BEL)

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Bagnack (FC Barcelone/ESP), Zock (Cosmos Bafia)


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Post by McAgger Tue May 13, 2014 2:44 am

RED wrote:Anyone but Glen frigging Johnson at RB. He is one of the worse rb in the premier league. A horrid player who I feel will cost England dearly if he starts.

I echo this

Johnson shouldn't even be in the squad, let alone start (which he will do)
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Post by matpol Tue May 13, 2014 3:26 am

Iran 30 man pre-squad:

Goalkeepers: Daniel Davari (Eintracht Braunschweig), Alireza Haghighi (Sporting Covilha, on loan from Rubin Kazan), Rahman Ahmadi (Sepahan), Sousha Makani (Foolad Khuzestan), Alireza Beiranvand (Naft Tehran).

Defenders: Khosro Heidari (Esteghlal), Hossein Mahini (Persepolis), Steven Beitashour (Vancouver Whitecaps), Pejman Montazeri (Umm Salal), Jalal Hosseini (Persepolis), Amir Sadeghi (Esteghlal), Mohammad Reza Khanzadeh (Zob Ahan), Ahmad Alenemeh (Naft), Hashem Beikzadeh (Esteghlal), Ehsan Hajsafi (Sepahan), Mehrdad Pooladi (Persepolis).

Midfielders: Javad Nekounam (Al Kuwait), Andranik Teymourian (Esteghlal), Reza Haghighi (Persepolis), Ghasem Haddadifar (Zob Ahan), Bakhtiyar Rahmani (Foolad), Alireza Jahanbakhsh (NEC Nijmegen), Ashkan Dejagah (Fulham), Mohammad-Reza Khalatbari (Persepolis), .

Forwards: Masoud Shojaei (Las Palmas), Mohammad Reza Khalatbari (Persepolis), Mehdi Sharifi (Sepahan), Reza Ghoochannejhad (Charlton), Karim Ansarifard (Persepolis, on loan at Tractor Sazi), Sardar Azmoun (Rubin Kazan), Reza Ghoochannejhad (Charlton Athletic).


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Post by M99 Tue May 13, 2014 3:27 am

Barry is not even on stand by scratch What is Cleverley doing over him?
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Post by matpol Tue May 13, 2014 3:27 am

Nigeria 30 man pre-squad:

Goalkeepers: Vincent Enyeama (Lille FC, France); Austin Ejide (Hapoel Be'er Sheva, Israel), Daniel Akpeyi (Warri Wolves), Chigozie Agbim (Gombe United)

Defenders: Elderson Echiejile (AS Monaco, France); Efe Ambrose (Celtic, Scotland); Godfrey Oboabona (Rizespor, Turkey); Azubuike Egwuekwe (Warri Wolves); Kenneth Omeruo (Middlesbrough, England); Juwon Oshaniwa (Ashdod FC, Israel); Joseph Yobo (Norwich City, England); Kunle Odunlami (Sunshine Stars).

Midfielders: John Mikel Obi (Chelsea, England); Ramon Azeez (Almeria FC, Spain); Ogenyi Onazi (SS Lazio, Italy); Joel Obi (Parma, Italy); Nnamdi Oduamadi (Varese, Italy); Ejike Uzoenyi (Enugu Rangers), Nosa Igiebor (Real Betis, Spain), Sunday Mba (CA Bastia, France), Reuben Gabriel (Waasland-Beveren, Belgium), Michael Babatunde (Volyn Lutsk, Ukraine).

Forwards : Ahmed Musa (CSKA Moscow, Russia); Shola Ameobi (Newcastle United, England); Emmanuel Emenike (Fenerbahce, Turkey); Obinna Nsofor (Chievo Verona, Italy); Peter Odemwingie (Stoke City, England), Michael Uchebo (Cercle Brugge, Belgium); Victor Moses (Liverpool, England), Uche Nwofor (Heerenveen, Holland).
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Post by McLewis Tue May 13, 2014 3:38 am

Thanks for all of the squads, Matpol.

Good work.

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Post by M99 Tue May 13, 2014 3:40 am

matpol wrote:Nigeria 30 man pre-squad:

Goalkeepers: Vincent Enyeama (Lille FC, France); Austin Ejide (Hapoel Be'er Sheva, Israel), Daniel Akpeyi (Warri Wolves), Chigozie Agbim (Gombe United)

Defenders: Elderson Echiejile (AS Monaco, France); Efe Ambrose (Celtic, Scotland); Godfrey Oboabona (Rizespor, Turkey); Azubuike Egwuekwe (Warri Wolves); Kenneth Omeruo (Middlesbrough, England); Juwon Oshaniwa (Ashdod FC, Israel); Joseph Yobo (Norwich City, England); Kunle Odunlami (Sunshine Stars).

Midfielders: John Mikel Obi (Chelsea, England); Ramon Azeez (Almeria FC, Spain); Ogenyi Onazi (SS Lazio, Italy); Joel Obi (Parma, Italy); Nnamdi Oduamadi (Varese, Italy); Ejike Uzoenyi (Enugu Rangers), Nosa Igiebor (Real Betis, Spain), Sunday Mba (CA Bastia, France), Reuben Gabriel (Waasland-Beveren, Belgium), Michael Babatunde (Volyn Lutsk, Ukraine).

Forwards : Ahmed Musa (CSKA Moscow, Russia); Shola Ameobi (Newcastle United, England); Emmanuel Emenike (Fenerbahce, Turkey); Obinna Nsofor (Chievo Verona, Italy); Peter Odemwingie (Stoke City, England), Michael Uchebo (Cercle Brugge, Belgium); Victor Moses (Liverpool, England), Uche Nwofor (Heerenveen, Holland).

Wtf where is Bright Dike? What is this travesty sack the coach immediately.

And great job Matpol Thumbs up
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Post by B-Mac Tue May 13, 2014 3:47 am

Dike has been hurt all season for Toronto FC

knee injury
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Post by RED Tue May 13, 2014 3:50 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
RED wrote:Lampard and Milner's inclusion is questionable but understandable.

As for Johnson, I would stick Jones there. May not be as good going forward as Johnson is, but atleast he could defend, which is more important.

Jones is going mate, he's going to cover Johnson and CB position.

He should be starting. If not him, I'm sure England have some semi competent RBs around. Can't believe how lacking of quality this position is for England, to the point that Johnson is a certified starter, even after his horror show these past couple of weeks.
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Post by RED Tue May 13, 2014 3:52 am

GoonerJay29 wrote:I've already had a bit of a moan about it on Twitter, but it's a shame that Clyne and Gibbs have been overlooked, not just for this World Cup squad but for the whole season in general. Neither are spectacular going forward in the same way Baines, Shaw and Johnson are, but they're solid defenders, more so than the full backs currently in the squad.

Gerrard being the only holding midfielder in the squad is a worry, too. I'm not sure what Lampard's role in this team would be and would have taken Carrick or Barry instead to give us another option in case something happens to Gerrard.

The rest of the squad I'm happy with. If Walcott were available he may have gone instead of Milner, but otherwise plenty of good attacking talent there. It looks built for pressing and quick, direct football, though I suspect Hodgson will use a more cautious approach.

My starting eleven: Hart; Jones, Cahill, Jagielka, Baines; Gerrard, Henderson, Wilshere; Sturridge, Lallana, Rooney

Barkley, Sterling, Chamberlain, Welbeck and Lambert are good options from the bench.



I agree with all of this.
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Post by McAgger Tue May 13, 2014 4:05 am

RED wrote:
He should be starting. If not him, I'm sure England have some semi competent RBs around. Can't believe how lacking of quality this position is for England, to the point that Johnson is a certified starter, even after his horror show these past couple of weeksyears.

fixed :coffee:
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue May 13, 2014 4:39 am

I understand all that tbh but when the seemingly best option is actually a CB by trade you know we have a major lack of quality as RB goes.

Johnson goes by default, we really have no one else.
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Post by matpol Tue May 13, 2014 6:20 am

Honduras World Cup squad:

Goalkeepers: Noel Valladares, Donis Escober (both Olimpia), Luis Lopez (Real Espana).

Defenders: Brayan Beckeles (Olimpia), Emilio Izaguirre (Celtic), Juan Carlos Garcia (Wigan), Maynor Figueroa (Hull), Victor Bernardez (San Jose Earthquakes), Osman Chavez (Qingdao Janoon), Juan Pablo Montes (Motagua).

Midfielders: Arnold Peralta (Rangers), Luis Garrido (Olimpia), Roger Espinoza (Wigan), Jorge Claros (Motagua), Wilson Palacios (Stoke), Oscar Garcia (Houston Dynamo), Andy Najar (Anderlecht), Mario Martinez (Real Espana), Marvin Chavez (Colorado Rapids).

Strikers: Jerry Bengtson (New England Revolution), Jerry Palacios (Alajuelense), Carlo Costly (Real Espana), Rony Martinez (Real Sociedad).
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Post by matpol Tue May 13, 2014 6:22 am

USA 30 man pre-squad:

Goalkeepers: Brad Guzan (Aston Villa), Tim Howard (Everton), Nick Rimando (Real Salt Lake)

Defenders: DaMarcus Beasley (Puebla), Matt Besler (Sporting Kansas City), John Brooks (Hertha Berlin), Geoff Cameron (Stoke City), Timmy Chandler (Nürnberg), Brad Evans (Seattle Sounders FC), Omar Gonzalez (LA Galaxy), Clarence Goodson (San Jose Earthquakes), Fabian Johnson (Hoffenheim), Michael Parkhurst (Columbus Crew), DeAndre Yedlin (Seattle Sounders FC)

Midfielders: Kyle Beckerman (Real Salt Lake), Alejandro Bedoya (Nantes), Michael Bradley (Toronto FC), Joe Corona (Club Tijuana), Brad Davis (Houston Dynamo), Mix Diskerud (Rosenborg), Maurice Edu (Philadelphia Union), Julian Green (Bayern Munich), Jermaine Jones (Besiktas), Graham Zusi (Sporting Kansas City)

Forwards: Jozy Altidore (Sunderland), Terrence Boyd (Rapid Vienna), Clint Dempsey (Seattle Sounders FC), Landon Donovan (LA Galaxy), Aron Johannsson (AZ Alkmaar), Chris Wondolowski (San Jose Earthquakes)
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Post by Catracho Tue May 13, 2014 6:58 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:Gardiens :
Itandje (Konyaspor/TUR), Ndy Assembé (Guingamp/FRA), Ndjock (Fetihespor/TUR), Feudjou (Coton Sport)

Défenseurs :
Nyom (Grenade/ESP), Nounkeu (Besiktas/TUR), Djeugoue (Coton Sport), Chedjou (Galatasaray/TUR), Nkoulou (OM/FRA), Kana-Biyik (Rennes/FRA), Bedimo (Lyon/FRA), Assou-Ekotto (QPR/ANG), Bong (Olympiakos/GRE)

Milieux :
Enoh (Antalyaspor/TUR), Makoun (Rennes/FRA), Matip (Schalke/ALL), Mbia (Séville/ESP), Nguémo (Bordeaux/FRA), Song (FC Barcelone/ESP), Loe (Osasuna/ESP), Sally (Lens/FRA)

Attaque :
Eto’o (Chelsea/ANG), Choupo Moting (Mayence/ALL), Moukandjo (Nancy/FRA), Aboubakar (Lorient/FRA), Webo (Fenerbahçe/TUR), Idrissou (Kaiserslautern/ALL), Olinga (Zulte-Waregem/BEL)

Réservistes :
Bagnack (FC Barcelone/ESP), Zock (Cosmos Bafia)


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Rejected by Samuel Umititi, Axel Ngando, and Paul Ntep?? lol rough.
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Post by Catracho Tue May 13, 2014 6:59 am

btw I love how we all give hell to Brazil for picking the wrong players, but ffs that English squad looks pretty dire lol.
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Post by B-Mac Tue May 13, 2014 7:04 am

Catracho wrote:btw I love how we all give hell to Brazil for picking the wrong players, but ffs that English squad looks pretty dire lol.

difference is, Brazil has more to chose from

this is the best england got Laughing
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