Is Di Maria a top 10 player?

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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun May 25, 2014 10:05 pm

like i said, would take a mriacle for messi to just destroy teams in the WC. that being said, Di Maria and Kun can be the best players for argentina all tourney long, but if Messi just scores one goal in final and they win, MESSSIIIIIIIII

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 25, 2014 10:08 pm

Exactly lol.

Kinda like your CL victory (congrats btw) your best players by a considerable margin were Di Maria and Isco IMO.

But all the media were interested in was Bale and CR lol.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun May 25, 2014 10:09 pm

british medias fapping at bale of course, but i didnt see much about CR hmm
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 25, 2014 10:11 pm

He was given MOTM Nick lol.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun May 25, 2014 10:13 pm

No Mole, Di Maria was. Fergie gave him the trophy in the news room

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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun May 25, 2014 10:18 pm

this is the robben, ribery situation from last year. DI Maria (RObben) was immense vs munich and atletico, while ribery was coasting (ROnaldo was slightly better in semis). But CR will get european player of the year, for the 17 goals.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 25, 2014 10:20 pm

Vagi.

British media lied to me Mad
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Post by Donuts Sun May 25, 2014 10:34 pm

fact is balon d'or will just push Di Maria away, this isn't anything like the Ribery case because people will just say Ronaldo deserves it more due to them being in the same team.
it'll be hard for anyone to convince the media alone that Di Maria was more impressive.

and please like i said if Argentina win Messi will get his face plastered even if he does nothing people will just start the debate that he surpassed Maradona etc. (maybe even if he doesn't deserve it)
but this is all hypothetical there is a whole nother half of the year left anything can happen.

Messi can score 5 goals against Madrid in the first half of the season and everyone will just forget about the early season or vice versa.
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Post by Valkyrja Sun May 25, 2014 10:37 pm

Di Maria will never win the Balon d'Or because he isn't the type of player that would win it in this climate, but like nick said, 'youtube players' like Hazard, who don't deserve it more, will at some point. Don't get me wrong, Hazard is a great, great player.
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Post by jibers Sun May 25, 2014 11:40 pm

Honestly who gives a shite about the FWPOTY? Di Maria has been Madrids best player in all their big games. Madrid should concentrate on beating pathetico and Sevilla next year so they can win the sextuple ffs.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon May 26, 2014 1:12 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Also i disagree that this season has impacted Messi's image.

If he wins the WC no matter how great the performance, everyone will quickly ignore it.

The thing writes itself... "Messi goes into Argentina's rivals backyard and wins the first major trophy since Maradona inspired 86 with a scrub defense"

Kinda like R9 won it when he was injured all season, everyone will just ignore what happened before and we'll be overthrown with hype.

Agreed. No one cares that Pele only scored once in 1962 and didn't make the team of the tournament, he still has 3 world cups. That's the only thing everyone remembers.
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Post by harhar11 Tue May 27, 2014 10:34 pm

Valkyrja wrote:Di Maria will never win the Balon d'Or because he isn't the type of player that would win it in this climate, but like nick said, 'youtube players' like Hazard, who don't deserve it more, will at some point. Don't get me wrong, Hazard is a great, great player.

But Di Maria is probably even a bigger "youtube player" than Hazard..

Mr Nick09 wrote:Messi never goes Maradona mode for Argentina, we are safe

Maradona never went into maradona mode for Argentina before the WC 86 either :coffee:

Oh and, Messi went into Maradona mode for Argentina at this WC qual. He was the 2nd top scorer, the top scorer until he got injured and missed the last game or two(don't remember), was the player with the most assist and was named the best player of the south american WC qual...

And let's not forget that Argentina has an easy ride until the quater-finals, IIRC even into the semifinals..

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Post by halamadrid2 Wed May 28, 2014 12:52 pm

jibers wrote:Honestly who gives a shite about the FWPOTY? Di Maria has been Madrids best player in all their big games. Madrid should concentrate on beating pathetico and Sevilla next year so they can win the sextuple ffs.

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who gives two fcks about Balon d'or or fwpoty. Some players are too obsessed with this and it's frustrating for a fan to see the selfishness. Fans recognize the good players no matter how few individual awards they win.

And I don't agree with the fact that Messi will be remembered if for example DiMaria or Lavezzi or Higuain dragged them to winning WC. Or else people would be giving Ronaldo credit for our win vs Atleti. He got none. So spare me with this whole "just cuz Messi and Ronaldo are most known ergo they will be credited for wins they didn't contribute much in" give me a break
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