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Post by The Franchise Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:39 am

Was anyone else surprised by the performance of Vermaelen at leftback?

Robben didnt get much out of him at all, even in the 1 v 1.

Based on that performance, if cheap, I wouldnt complain if he was the "defensive leftback". Of course he can play CB too, but I wouldnt want him to be the only defensive signing.

Verm and Alba (LB) , Dani and Adriano (RB) and Pique, Bartra, new guy and Verm as 4th choice CB might be a decent set of defenders.

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Post by futbol Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:47 am

As a CB Vermaelen is beyond shit. Mascherano is better by a distance. Don't know about leftback. Don't think the club thinks leftback position needs investment anyway.

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Post by danyjr Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:59 pm

Franchise...I have to disagree. Vermaelen has flopped too many times when he's played LB for Arsenal. He is prone to losing concentration, letting runners run behind him without him noticing them. He isn't particularly fast either. For an Arsenal team that was playing deep he did ok (far from a great performance still) but when you press high up I suspect he will be caught in no man's land consistently.

I think the foremost concentration should be on signing a CB who can lead a backline. The type of player who can shout and has a bigger personality for him not to be forced into playing the nice Barcelona schoolboy like everyone who joins Barça.
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Post by The Franchise Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:04 am

I have rarely seen him play leftback for Arsenal, in fact the Bayern game may have been the only game. Which was why I asked really.

Sure Arsenal were fairly deep, but he was isolated with Robben quite often in the 1 v 1 and did a pretty good job I felt.
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Post by free_cat Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:16 am

Get Kompany, what a defender he is. Good in every department. Fast, strong, great aerially, good tackler, excellent on the ball... he has everything. A pitty it's impossible.

Sucha pity.. he went for 8 milion to City!
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Post by futbol Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:38 pm

Transfer Rumours V4 - Page 24 The-front-MD-march-15-2014

On the frontpage of MD. Proud

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Post by alexjanosik Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:20 am

The Kroos situation is still not resolved.We should do everything we can to sign him.I am sure he can be enticed.Would be a great Xavi replacement and would somewhat lessen the pain of losing Thiago.

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Post by windkick Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:42 am

If we managed to get Benatia and Kroos this summer I would run with joy
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Post by CBarca Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:56 am

Can we please start being linked to Koscielny again?
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Post by AnchorMan Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:53 am

It Seems Song will Be Leaving this Summer; What Do ya'll Think about Yann M'vila? He'll make a More than Capable Replacement...... Or Victor Wanyama; Strong, a Good Tackler and a Good Passer; Barely Takes 3 Touches of The Ball
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Post by free_cat Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:12 pm

AnchorMan wrote:It Seems Song will Be Leaving this Summer; What Do ya'll Think about Yann M'vila? He'll make a More than Capable Replacement...... Or Victor Wanyama; Strong, a Good Tackler and a Good Passer; Barely Takes 3 Touches of The Ball

We don't need anyone to replace Song. Bartra, Sergi Roberto and Mascherano can cover Busquets for the very few games he won't play.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:01 pm

http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/barca/esta-lista-los-centrales-futuribles-3203530

Sport: barca will sign 2 centerbacks: an established player to pay along pique and a promising youth

Established players being considered: Thiago Silva (PSG), David Luiz (Chelsea), Hummels (Borussia Dortmund), Agger (Liverpool), Fazio (Sevilla), Vermaelen (PSV), Vertonghen (Tottenham) & Marquinhos (PSG).

Promising youth being considered: Mangala (Oporto) Iñigo Martínez (Real Sociedad), Balanta (River Plate), Musacchio (Villarreal), &Dragovic (Dinamo Kiev)


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Post by Donuts Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:12 pm

Hmm.. I would rather sign two centerbacks
one to challenge Pique and a regular starter that can compete with Bartra.
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Post by The Franchise Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:42 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/barca/esta-lista-los-centrales-futuribles-3203530

Sport: barca will sign 2 centerbacks: an established player to pay along pique and a promising youth

That would be great, but we would have to sell Mascherano. Which of course I am good with but I dont know if we will really do.

I hope Napoli really like him as much as they say.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:38 pm

Yeah I'm thinking if it's true then we're definitely selling Masche. Looking at Napoli's backline they could really use some grit so it might be likely. But I only wonder if Martino will be so willing to get rid of Masche.
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Post by Donuts Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:51 pm

From the supposed rumored list of Tata it seems he wanted felipe luis hmm
a hint that we want to either sell Alba or Adriano?
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:06 pm

If sport say that you will sign 2 CBs, that probably means that you will sign only one. the new guy to play with Pique, with Masch and Bartra as back ups
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:58 pm

Donuts wrote:From the supposed rumored list of Tata it seems he wanted felipe luis hmm
a hint that we want to either sell Alba or Adriano?

Should have signed him when he was at Depor lol.

Would be a great signing though.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:37 pm

He loves it at Atleti and they don't want to sell. Don't think he would come, nor do I think we would even try if we don't get rid of Adriano first.
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Post by windkick Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:53 pm

It's encouraging to see that Tata wants to get rid of Alba though.

What was the rest of the names on this supposed list that Tata made?
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Post by Donuts Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:07 am

Defenders :
Neven Subotic, Felipe Luis, Doria, and Santiago Vergini

Midfielders :
Arda Turan and Gundogan

Forwards :
Sergio Aguero, Miroslav Klose

granted these have not been confirmed and are just rumors but who knows.
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Post by Khaled Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:34 am

windkick wrote:It's encouraging to see that Tata wants to get rid of Alba though.

What was the rest of the names on this supposed list that Tata made?

get rid of Alba? If anyone would leave, its Adriano...
Adriano is older and injury prone... So no, that won't happen! Although, Adriano is a very good squad player, I won't sell him. Would add another LCB/LB. More depth in squad and give Adriano some playing time on RB...
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Post by futbol Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:35 am

That list doesn't seem plausible. Why would he demand Arda? We are absolutely stacked in that position. What does Arda offer us that we don't already have?

Vergini is a scrub. Sunderland have him on loan (?) now. He looked completely out of his depth against Arsenal. If Tata wanted him, he would have gotten him very easily for peanuts during the summer or winter break. Don't believe that at all.

Klose is 36. That ship has sailed long time ago, even for an impact sub.

If we bought Agüero he would be a starter. Neymar, Messi, Agüero? That's a bit too much of the same. 3 ball hogs upfront, little movement. Agüero will also never be at his best on the right wing. He would also cost € 60M upwards and he's extremely injury prone. This only works in Fifa.

Doria looks very very slow.

Subotic. Meh.

Gündogan looks fecked for ever.

Felipe Luis would be a dream.

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Post by danyjr Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:35 am

Filipe Luís should have been signed 4 seasons ago. He's almost 29, which is old for a fullback in my opinion, considering he won't be cheap either.

As for defenders avoid getting overrated and overpriced players like Hummels or David Luiz. One of Dedé or Éder Álvarez Balanta would be good back ups but you need a good established defender as a priority. I haven't watched Fazio enough to know how good he is, Mussachio is a good defender but not a good ball player. Stay away from Íñigo, Bartra is better than him. I really want to know how good Mangala is.

As for midfield I'd sign Rakitić. I think he is a super player who won't break the bank and can be a good alternative to Vidal who would cost €60+ million. Best Croatian midfielder right now Proud
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Post by futbol Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:45 am

What's the issue with getting Benatia? Best getable centerback out there by far. Just splash € 40M on him, fss. He is worth it. Only 26 as well. Stud of a defender, better than Luiz, Hummels and everyone else.

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Post by The Franchise Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:08 am

danyjr wrote: I really want to know how good Mangala is.


He is good, but not 40m good. Relatively recently Porto have sold some very good centerbacks (Andrade, Carvalho, Pepe) for alot of money and they turned out to be pretty good. Mangala I think is of the same kind, but the question is do you want to pay for him. He will be more expensive than all of those guys but isnt better than them.

His biggest strength is the dominance in the air..both boxes he wins EVERYTHING. I dont think I am exaggerating to say he is one of the best in the air, both as a leaper or in terms of actually heading the ball.

I think he would be a much better foil for Pique than Fazio or any other big, slow, cumbersome defender.
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