Brazil vs Italy

Fernando? From Porto? Say it aint so?

Interesting stat. There have been 19 WCs, 9 of them have been won by these two teams, almost half of them.

Julio César, Daniel Alves, Dante (Thiago Silva), David Luiz e Filipe Luís; Fernando, Hernanes e Oscar; Hulk, Neymar e Fred.



beautiful

Fred . He is the proof that Pato will be back

People think that Fred is some type of shit striker for some reason...

Fred is a damn good striker, liked him at Lyon and he shouldn't be taken lightly by teams.

His goal vs England was proof enough to me he still got game. Excellent finish.

I did question what he might of lost since his heyday, but he can clearly still finish.

De Sciglio vs Neymar will be interesting to see, if MDS starts

i think it will be neymar vs maggio and hulk vs mds.


Oscar and Hernanes vs Marchisio-Pirlo-De Rossi

When's the match?

Tonight

Arquitecto wrote:

gunnerlistick wrote:

Arq you legend ffs

Ganso wrote:People think that Fred is some type of shit striker for some reason...

i liked him in his Lyon's days but i thought he was much older . like 28-29 when he was playing for OL so when i've seen him coming back in the NT i was impressed ...... but he is 29 NOW

If I was a good but not top club I'd try and coax Fred out of Brazil.

AbraKebabra Alacalamb wrote:If I was a good but not top club I'd try and coax Fred out of Brazil.

Inter

No a good club.

Is that the Fernando from Gremio? The kid who shined at the under 20 WC in 2011?

Ganso wrote:People think that Fred is some type of shit striker for some reason...

Because he is.... he use to be good but that was like 7 years ago.

He's probably the worst striker out of any starting CF for any major nation in world football.

The fact you are calling up Diego Costa tells its own story.

Harsh Mole. He knows his way to the back of the net. He might technically be meh but he's a decent finisher.

Harsh, but probably true. We've struggled to find a proper CF for a while now.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Ganso wrote:People think that Fred is some type of shit striker for some reason...

Because he is.... he use to be good but that was like 7 years ago.

He's probably the worst striker out of any starting CF for any major nation in world football.

The fact you are calling up Diego Costa tells its own story.

Fred is not shit and I will bump this thread later on this year when he proves so.not saying he is amazing but he can handle the job and he has proved it in copa america and friendlies

About worst CF, yeah, I would love to have Postiga instead of Fred

also whats wrong with Diego Costa?the guy is scoring for fun in la liga and you act as if he is some random scrub

I don't think Mole's point about being the worst CF out of major nations is harsh, the forwards for major nations are generally in the top bracket or two in the world anyway.

Italy: Balotelli, Cassano, Di Natale etc etc

Germany: Klose, Gomez etc

Argentina: Messi (If they play him there) Higgy and a bunch of other attackers

England: Roo

France: Benzema, Giroud

spain don't really count, they tend not to use their CF's.

But I wouldn't say not being up there with that mob makes Fred rubbish. He's probably Europa league standard and would fit in with a top 6-7 club in a big league.

Diego Costa is scoring goals but so is Michu.... doesn't mean he's international class though.

Diego Costa isn't any more than average IMO who is going through a hot streak in a system designed for poachers.

He wouldn't be the first player who got hyped through scoring goals when no one had a clue who he is and then went back to his usual level and won't be the last either.

You have to be a very special team to carry dross as CF's and Brazil are not that special.... yet.

Sure Fred and Diego Costa might score a goal here and there in friendlies but when it comes down to it in major tournaments they will fall embarrassingly short.

There is a big difference between not being international class and being shit,which is what you are calling both fred and diego costa.Diego Costa got called up once and he isnt even going to start.We will obviously have Damiao and Pato on the squad once everyone is fit.

"Sure Fred and Diego Costa might score a goal here and there in friendlies but when it comes down to it in major tournaments they will fall embarrassingly short."
Well, we will see about that.Fred showed the exact opposite of what you said so far

Ganso wrote:There is a big difference between not being international class and being shit,

it's been said '' Fred is not a top CF '' and you replied

'' Fred is not shit '' .... nobody said that at first

Fred is an average striker. I'd be surprised if he made waves, but like Hanson.said, he Wont start over.damiao or pato.

This game is winnable for Italy. Wanna see neymar up against barza. I'm also.excited.to see Brazil's midfield play together.