Re: How would Ronaldo and Neymar do at Barca?

by FennecFox7 Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:55 pm

gnrfan wrote:I like barca as much as anyone and I've gotta say, some of you guys gotta take of the blaugrana glasses. Ronaldo would tear it up. Hear a lot of nonsense about how Ronaldo can't beat his man, cant play in tight space, cant pick a pass. Maybe not as well as Messi who's a freak, but we're not talking about fvcking peter crouch. Ronaldo's all-round game is very good and we've seen him give wc defenders a torrid time. tHe'd do a hell of a lot better than alexis and pedro who sometimes turn the ball over like it's going out of style. Barca fans are lucky messi is clutch enough to carry these clowns(and paper over the bs they like to spew)

Exactly.

Ronaldo is not at messis level my fellow madrid fans.

HE WILL NEVER BE at his level. Messi's talent was developed at an early age, the way he plays is IMPOSSIBLE for defenders to defend against. Only pepe got remotely close, and he still got his ass flipped quite a bit.

So when you say he can't dribble, he is gomez on the wing blah blah blah. I can show you countless videos on all his touches against one team. Look, I've said this countless times, iniesta for example is a better link up player obviously and a much better passer. There are better passers then him. But that does not mean he is poor at passing and overall play

by CBarca Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:56 pm

This thread is GOAT already ffs :bow:

by FennecFox7 Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:56 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
Giggity5313 wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:ronaldo great in link up play, space he would have at barca.... this thread is like new year jokes galore

The only thing he does that kills link up play is take alot of shots. Other then that do you actually watch ronaldo play?

so you are saying he is bad at link up play? lmao

No, I'm just saying if he tones down the shots, he will be fine. He is involved in some great passing moves, especially with marcelo, benzema, and ozil.

by Mr Nick09 Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:05 pm

Giggity5313 wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:
Giggity5313 wrote:

The only thing he does that kills link up play is take alot of shots. Other then that do you actually watch ronaldo play?

so you are saying he is bad at link up play? lmao

No, I'm just saying if he tones down the shots, he will be fine. He is involved in some great passing moves, especially with marcelo, benzema, and ozil.

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by FennecFox7 Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:06 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
Giggity5313 wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:

so you are saying he is bad at link up play? lmao

No, I'm just saying if he tones down the shots, he will be fine. He is involved in some great passing moves, especially with marcelo, benzema, and ozil.

If he only shoots near the box and inside it he will be fine..

If he is given tactical instructions not to take many shots from range and instead only shoot in the box.. what is the difference??

by Die Borussen Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:11 pm

nick always makes fun of opinions that do not match his own one

by guest7 Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:14 pm

this thread is a joke so far

CR has better if not equal passing with Gomez and Gomez seems to thrive with a possession based team, why wouldnt CR work in barca?

none cares about your passing if you score 50 goals nick, it's not passes that wins you games, it's your goals that matter

by jibers Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:20 pm

The Franchise wrote:Cristiano would never work for us, this is silly.

The problem is Madrid/Cristiano fans think thats some kind of knock on him, like it makes him a lesser player than he is...which is false, it didnt for Ibra either.

But being great doesnt mean you always fit, he clearly does not.

First of all he shoots 11 time a game or something absurd, for us you can cut that in half. Either he doesnt and we suck or he does and he has nothing like the effect he has now. And thats what he does well.

Going into what he doesnt do well, I could write for 10 minutes.

Again, doesnt make him less of a player, but he would struggle horribly for us, or the entire team would.

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by Abramovich Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:21 pm

Neymar and Ronaldo would both get some success, Nerman more than Ronaldo imo.

I doubt either of them would flop, but to play inside forward for Barca you need to work really hard off the ball and not shoot like a madman like Ronaldo does. (This isnt a fantasy game where you suddendly tell Ronaldo to stop doing it and he will, else Balotelli would be a hard working serious professional).

Too many Ronaldo fan boys here that don't understand the Barca system properly, to understand what Nick is trying to point out. I won't be explaining because I'm not a special needs teacher nor do I want to be, I don't have the patience for it quite frankly but GL Nick rofl

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by Mr Nick09 Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:22 pm

Se7en wrote:this thread is a joke so far

CR has better if not equal passing with Gomez and Gomez seems to thrive with a possession based team, why wouldnt CR work in barca?

none cares about your passing if you score 50 goals nick, it's not passes that wins you games, it's your goals that matter

so scoring the sixth goal of a 6-0 drubbing of zaragoza means that you are a great tactical fit at barca? dat football logic

by Onyx Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:23 pm

Why does what he does now matter? He'd have different instructions at Barca.

by Mr Nick09 Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:25 pm

different instructions... doesnt get hold rofl

this isnt fifa lad

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:26 pm

Se7en wrote:this thread is a joke so far

CR has better if not equal passing with Gomez and Gomez seems to thrive with a possession based team, why wouldnt CR work in barca?

none cares about your passing if you score 50 goals nick, it's not passes that wins you games, it's your goals that matter

Gomez plays as a CF and is the vocal part of the attack and besides Bayern have arguably improved without him.....

None the less thats a totally different argument, CR wouldn't be the vocal point of the attack like Gomez is so that argument doesn't really wash.

Giggity5313 wrote:
If he only shoots near the box and inside it he will be fine..

If he is given tactical instructions not to take many shots from range and instead only shoot in the box.. what is the difference??

by Onyx Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:30 pm

So if he played for Barca, Tito would just tell Ronaldo to do whatever he likes?

I don't understand why what he's doing now matters. He plays for a team who play differently to Barca. Different coach, style, players etc etc.

by cyberman Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:34 pm

Like utd and unlike Madrid, barca would use ronaldo correctly.

by Donuts Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:46 pm

I prefer Cuenca over Ronaldo any day in Barcelona or even Tello. One trick ponies? So be it but being a winger for Barcelona you have to selfless.

by cyberman Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:48 pm

Ronaldo isn't a winger the same way Zidane wasn't a winger

by Onyx Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:50 pm

cyberman wrote:Ronaldo isn't a winger the same way Zidane wasn't a winger

Ronaldo is a goalscoring winger. There's different types of wingers. Like Silva is a creative winger etc etc.

by cyberman Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:55 pm

But ronaldo isn't a winger lol
That's what I mean by Madrid misusing him. At utd he started out wide but went where he want.
Utd plays him up front on his own in big games and he owned them, he started wide in smaller games and owned them.
MAdrid players aren't as good as utds so can't cover for him. Be seam isn't as adaptable as Rooney, he can't hang out wide covering the space etc

by cyberman Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:56 pm

The team..
Fcuk u iPod!!

by Onyx Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:00 pm

cyberman wrote:But ronaldo isn't a winger lol
That's what I mean by Madrid misusing him. At utd he started out wide but went where he want.
Utd plays him up front on his own in big games and he owned them, he started wide in smaller games and owned them.
MAdrid players aren't as good as utds so can't cover for him. Be seam isn't as adaptable as Rooney, he can't hang out wide covering the space etc

So Ronaldo should be playing up front?

Ronaldo does track back nowadays.

by FalcaoPunch Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:53 pm

If Messi doesn't like it when Villa holds the ball a bit too long... Neymar is going to be due for a rude awakening.

by danyjr Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:12 pm

True. Neymar is a ball hogger and tactically inept. :coffee:

by FennecFox7 Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:13 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Se7en wrote:this thread is a joke so far

CR has better if not equal passing with Gomez and Gomez seems to thrive with a possession based team, why wouldnt CR work in barca?

none cares about your passing if you score 50 goals nick, it's not passes that wins you games, it's your goals that matter

Gomez plays as a CF and is the vocal part of the attack and besides Bayern have arguably improved without him.....

None the less thats a totally different argument, CR wouldn't be the vocal point of the attack like Gomez is so that argument doesn't really wash.

Giggity5313 wrote:
If he only shoots near the box and inside it he will be fine..

If he is given tactical instructions not to take many shots from range and instead only shoot in the box.. what is the difference??

All of this is hypothetical, so don't know what you mean.

by Gil Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:21 pm

Is this a joke? His off the ball movement is arguably the best in football.

Him and Messi would combine for a least 4/5 goals every game.

by FennecFox7 Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:26 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
Se7en wrote:this thread is a joke so far

CR has better if not equal passing with Gomez and Gomez seems to thrive with a possession based team, why wouldnt CR work in barca?

none cares about your passing if you score 50 goals nick, it's not passes that wins you games, it's your goals that matter

so scoring the sixth goal of a 6-0 drubbing of zaragoza means that you are a great tactical fit at barca? dat football logic

Ok. Let's take a look at one of ronaldo's games that is quite average by his standards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wsKu-2L7no

If you think the first minute is not good build up/link up play, then you were dropped as a baby honestly.

He takes 2-3 touches on the ball max and releases it quickly

3:33.. yeah.. gomez on the wing Rolling Eyes

Abra lol you know nothing about barca's overall play. Don't even start :brickwall:

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