Re: Italian Midfield in EURO 2012

by McAgger Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:02 pm

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
Messiakanino wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
Messiakanino wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
Luca wrote:
Messiakanino wrote:Exactly what I'm saying. You cannot bring historical stats and claim your team is currently better than England.

Currently I wouldn't say there is much between them, I would still blindly favour Italy though

Stats speak otherwise.

how do stats speak otherwise CURRENTLY?
Don't bring up 4-5 years ago....tell me what ur basing your claim on?
I agree with Luca, there isn't much between them until they play each other and prove whose better or atleast till the next major tournament.

There's no need for 4-5 years ago

- Italy have the BEST defensive record right now at all of Squads in this current Euro Qualifiers wit only 1 goal
- Italy have more goals for
- Italy have qualfied for the Euro's, and England still have a long way to go
- They have won in their last 7 fixtures, while England has not

Italy's group consists of Estonia, Slovenia, Northern Ireland, Faroe Islands, and Serbia....Even with the shittiest squad Italy should most all of these games. Serbia is the only team that could challenge Italy in this group. The first game Serbia had to forfeit (so Italy did not win this game). And they still have to play Serbia away.

Italy do not have more goals scored for than England....They have 16(but actually 13 if u dont count the gift of UEFA) and plus they have played a game more than England with 8. England has 15 goals with a game less. And just to let you know this is the stupidest way of arguing that your team is better with goals scored, especially because Englands group is smaller and they will less games.

And then you say Italy have qualified while England have a long way to go. Are u serious? Long way? They need one point, how is that a long way?

And what does winning streak have to do with which is better?

LMAO? So we come to the lame excuse of us having a shittier group and England isn't in one as well

/facepalm

READ the POST....where do i say u have a shittier group than England? :facepalm:

......I pointed it out because your talking like Italy has Germany, Netherlands, Spain, France or what not in their group.....so don't bring up stats saying Italy have conceded one goal and scored 16......Italy is a powerhouse in world football they SHOULD be killing those teams with ease because they're nothing compared to Italy.

And from my whole post all you could counter was that........what the rest of my post? :facepalm:

by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:02 pm

Luca wrote:No, I disagree about Donadoni he inherited a great squad.
I did not like him or his style at all, Prandelli is a massive step up.
Prandelli inherited a squad in a revolution and not only made it work but made it exciting.

Not denying that at all.
Agreed
And it's still improving, this is nothing

by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:04 pm

Messiakanino wrote:
And from my whole post all you could counter was that........what the rest of my post?

After reading what I read, there was nothing else to counter, I already did and it's none sense.

As for shittier, you didn't understand. You wrote that Italy are in a shit group, and I said, England is as well, that's the whole point. And us only conceded 1 goal, is that we're just that good at it. Italy are masters at defending. England don't even come close even with Fabio Capello as coach.

By the way relying on an Italian coach :coffee:

You can keep going on and on, but Italy are currently better, and I'm not the only one saying it.

by zarola Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:06 pm

We beat them in friendlies......

by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:07 pm

zarola wrote:We beat them in friendlies......

You didn't watch the Germany game then... That was no friendly. :facepalm:

by zarola Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:08 pm

Luca wrote:No, I disagree about Donadoni he inherited a great squad.
I did not like him or his style at all, Prandelli is a massive step up.
Prandelli inherited a squad in a revolution and not only made it work but made it exciting.

Maybe but he also used cassano di natale chiellini gamberini, etc.

by McAgger Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:08 pm

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
Messiakanino wrote:
And from my whole post all you could counter was that........what the rest of my post?

After reading what I read, there was nothing else to counter, I already did and it's none sense.

As for shittier, you didn't understand. You wrote that Italy are in a shit group, and I said, England is as well, that's the whole point.

Or because your logic is flawed and you know it Laughing

yes they're both in a shit group.....they're both doing well as they should be.....what's the point here?
I brought it up because you talk about Italy scoring 16(13) goals and conceding 1 goal in their group like it's an achievement......They're not playing powerhouses for u to think of it as an achievement.

by zarola Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:10 pm

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
zarola wrote:We beat them in friendlies......

You didn't watch the Germany game then... That was no friendly.

No youre right it was world cup 2010 final i forgot :facepalm:

by McAgger Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:11 pm

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
Messiakanino wrote:
And from my whole post all you could counter was that........what the rest of my post?

After reading what I read, there was nothing else to counter, I already did and it's none sense.

As for shittier, you didn't understand. You wrote that Italy are in a shit group, and I said, England is as well, that's the whole point. And us only conceded 1 goal, is that we're just that good at it. Italy are masters at defending. England don't even come close even with Fabio Capello as coach.

By the way relying on an Italian coach

You can keep going on and on, but Italy are currently better, and I'm not the only one saying it.

Lol

.....what does that have to d0 with anything?

by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:12 pm

Well Italy are doing better in it, plain and simple. All the top teams are in shit groups, we just have the best defensive record out of all of them.

Bro, you can go on and on, Italy are better than England currenlty and since 2006. I'm not the only one saying it.

In fact, you not being a supporter, it is an excelent achievement as Italy historically have never qualified this early. You not being a supporter you don't get know that we are still rebuilding and the squad you see now is not the same that will you see later on.

by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:13 pm

Messiakanino wrote:

Lol .....what does that have to d0 with anything?

It's disapointing that England have to rely on a foregin coach, an Italian one which is no surprise to solve your problems since your embaressment upset in 2008 :coffee:

by McAgger Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:23 pm

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
Messiakanino wrote:

Lol .....what does that have to d0 with anything?

It's disapointing that England have to rely on a foregin coach, an Italian one which is no surprise to solve your problems since your embaressment upset in 2008

I'm done arguing with u because ur bias is shining brightly for all to see.
And just so u know i don't even support England, not even close, i was just arguing to show the many flaws in ur claim.

by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:26 pm

Messiakanino wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
Messiakanino wrote:

Lol .....what does that have to d0 with anything?

It's disapointing that England have to rely on a foregin coach, an Italian one which is no surprise to solve your problems since your embaressment upset in 2008

I'm done arguing with u because ur bias is shining brightly for all to see.
And just so u know i don't even support England, not even close, i was just arguing to show the many flaws in ur claim.

Yes, thanks for derailing the thread by the way, bye now.

by McAgger Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:32 pm

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