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Post by xabi Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:04 pm

both are fantasic.. I might even rate Rooney higher than anybody on this forum. He is just playing phenomenal right now..

That being said I also rate CR7 the highest Very Happy he takes it for me.. hes numbers speak for themselves..

and at united you could cleardly see who the dominant was. Yes Rooney might be a more polished diamond now than he was two/three years ago. But he needs to show more conistansy aswell as score more goals to come on messi/ronaldo level

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Post by Lord Hades Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:17 pm

jibers wrote:
El Pipita wrote:Rooney vs Cristiano Ronaldo - Page 3 Tumblr_ldb2ngu4Pq1qbfve3o1_500

so why does he always fail against barca?

'always fail'??

penalty goal in the league clasico where he performed quite well and messi didnt outshine him and it was honours even.. cup winning goal against barcelona was it? .. and the equalizing goal at the cam nou when were 1-0 down? .wow what a failure..i would love to fail like him
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Post by jibers Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:58 am

diptiman wrote:
jibers wrote:
El Pipita wrote:Rooney vs Cristiano Ronaldo - Page 3 Tumblr_ldb2ngu4Pq1qbfve3o1_500

so why does he always fail against barca?

'always fail'??

penalty goal in the league clasico where he performed quite well and messi didnt outshine him and it was honours even.. cup winning goal against barcelona was it? .. and the equalizing goal at the cam nou when were 1-0 down? .wow what a failure..i would love to fail like him

Ronaldos first fail against Barcelona: Missing a penalty and being second best to messi.

Ronaldos second fail, being anonymous again when we played Barca at Old trafford.

Ronaldo's third fail, coming back from injury and missing a one on one against Barca, with Ibra soon after winning the tie for Barca.

Ronaldos fourth fail, Being anonymous in another Barceona game and RM lose 2-0

Ronaldo's fifth fail and by no means his last. Getting outshined by everysingle Barcelona player on the pitch and getting a huge dose of MANITA. Tito on the sidelines played better.

Ronaldo sixth fail. Scoring a penalty goal against a barca side that had already wrapped up the league after once again doing sod all all game, in a home game.

Ronaldos seventh fail, doing sod all in the copa but taking the headline after di marias hard work. Story of his life. hopefully ozil will take this away this season.

Ronaldos eigth fail. Being absolutely anonymous in the two classicos, when Messi ran through REals entire back line. and in the second game where barca had to just play keep ball.

Ninth fail: Ronaldo doing nothing apart from his tap in in the super cup, when agan, his "equal" messi, made pepe fall on his kness and beg for forgiveness and ripped Madrid apart again.

some other notable fails: Leaving united to win just a copa.

Winnning the pichichi after the title was over. Messi won CL top GS third year running, had highest assist in la liga, won 3 trophies and battered RM. COMINGSECOND BEST TO MESSI CONSISTENTLY FAIL

Coming third to xavi and messi in the new awards getting voted by 3, yes 3 people out of 53. So he is third best now. THIRD BEST TO MESSI FAIL

Scoring 5 freekicks after taking 60+ in a season so convering a 1/12 th and somehow managing to be called a free kick specialist. DISGUSISED FAIL

Final fail, scoring 3 tap ins again and getting the headlines against zaragoza. FAIL



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Post by the xcx Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:03 pm

jibers wrote:
diptiman wrote:
jibers wrote:
El Pipita wrote:Rooney vs Cristiano Ronaldo - Page 3 Tumblr_ldb2ngu4Pq1qbfve3o1_500

so why does he always fail against barca?

'always fail'??

penalty goal in the league clasico where he performed quite well and messi didnt outshine him and it was honours even.. cup winning goal against barcelona was it? .. and the equalizing goal at the cam nou when were 1-0 down? .wow what a failure..i would love to fail like him

Winning the copa after spending 300 million plus on new players is a fail. And not beating an unfit Barca side with a fully fit RM squad is a fail. Ronaldo scoring how many plus gola to win the pichici after RM had lost the league is a fail. Ronaldo faling to contribute anything worthwhile apart from his tap ins is a fail. Ronaldo alays being second best to messi is a fail. Ronaldo being second best to xavi as well is a fail. Ronaldo missing 40+ freekicks to score 4 is a fail.
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Post by jibers Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:12 pm

diptiman wrote:
jibers wrote:
El Pipita wrote:Rooney vs Cristiano Ronaldo - Page 3 Tumblr_ldb2ngu4Pq1qbfve3o1_500

so why does he always fail against barca?

'always fail'??

penalty goal in the league clasico where he performed quite well and messi didnt outshine him and it was honours even.. cup winning goal against barcelona was it? .. and the equalizing goal at the cam nou when were 1-0 down? .wow what a failure..i would love to fail like him

Ronaldos first fail against Barcelona: Missing a penalty and being second best to messi.

Ronaldos second fail, being anonymous again when we played Barca at Old trafford.

Ronaldo's third fail, coming back from injury and missing a one on one against Barca, with Ibra soon after winning the tie for Barca.

Ronaldos fourth fail, Being anonymous in another Barceona game and RM lose 2-0

Ronaldo's fifth fail and by no means his last. Getting outshined by everysingle Barcelona player on the pitch and getting a huge dose of MANITA. Tito on the sidelines played better.

Ronaldo sixth fail. Scoring a penalty goal against a barca side that had already wrapped up the league after once again doing sod all all game, in a home game.

Ronaldos seventh fail, doing sod all in the copa but taking the headline after di marias hard work. Story of his life. hopefully ozil will take this away this season.

Ronaldos eigth fail. Being absolutely anonymous in the two classicos, when Messi ran through REals entire back line. and in the second game where barca had to just play keep ball.

Ninth fail: Ronaldo doing nothing apart from his tap in in the super cup, when agan, his "equal" messi, made pepe fall on his kness and beg for forgiveness and ripped Madrid apart again.

some other notable fails: Leaving united to win just a copa.

Winnning the pichichi after the title was over. Messi won CL top GS third year running, had highest assist in la liga, won 3 trophies and battered RM. COMINGSECOND BEST TO MESSI CONSISTENTLY FAIL

Coming third to xavi and messi in the new awards getting voted by 3, yes 3 people out of 53. So he is third best now. THIRD BEST TO MESSI FAIL

Scoring 5 freekicks after taking 60+ in a season so convering a 1/12 th and somehow managing to be called a free kick specialist. DISGUSISED FAIL

Final fail, scoring 3 tap ins again and getting the headlines against zaragoza. FAIL

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Post by Albiceleste Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:29 pm

jibers wrote:
Ronaldos first fail against Barcelona: Missing a penalty and being second best to messi.

Ronaldos second fail, being anonymous again when we played Barca at Old trafford.

Ronaldo's third fail, coming back from injury and missing a one on one against Barca, with Ibra soon after winning the tie for Barca.

Ronaldos fourth fail, Being anonymous in another Barceona game and RM lose 2-0

Ronaldo's fifth fail and by no means his last. Getting outshined by everysingle Barcelona player on the pitch and getting a huge dose of MANITA. Tito on the sidelines played better.

Ronaldo sixth fail. Scoring a penalty goal against a barca side that had already wrapped up the league after once again doing sod all all game, in a home game.

Ronaldos seventh fail, doing sod all in the copa but taking the headline after di marias hard work. Story of his life. hopefully ozil will take this away this season.

Ronaldos eigth fail. Being absolutely anonymous in the two classicos, when Messi ran through REals entire back line. and in the second game where barca had to just play keep ball.

Ninth fail: Ronaldo doing nothing apart from his tap in in the super cup, when agan, his "equal" messi, made pepe fall on his kness and beg for forgiveness and ripped Madrid apart again.

some other notable fails: Leaving united to win just a copa.

Winnning the pichichi after the title was over. Messi won CL top GS third year running, had highest assist in la liga, won 3 trophies and battered RM. COMINGSECOND BEST TO MESSI CONSISTENTLY FAIL

Coming third to xavi and messi in the new awards getting voted by 3, yes 3 people out of 53. So he is third best now. THIRD BEST TO MESSI FAIL

Scoring 5 freekicks after taking 60+ in a season so convering a 1/12 th and somehow managing to be called a free kick specialist. DISGUSISED FAIL

Final fail, scoring 3 tap ins again and getting the headlines against zaragoza. FAIL

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Post by the xcx Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:32 pm

jibers wrote:
diptiman wrote:
jibers wrote:
El Pipita wrote:Rooney vs Cristiano Ronaldo - Page 3 Tumblr_ldb2ngu4Pq1qbfve3o1_500

so why does he always fail against barca?

'always fail'??

penalty goal in the league clasico where he performed quite well and messi didnt outshine him and it was honours even.. cup winning goal against barcelona was it? .. and the equalizing goal at the cam nou when were 1-0 down? .wow what a failure..i would love to fail like him

Ronaldos first fail against Barcelona: Missing a penalty and being second best to messi.

Ronaldos second fail, being anonymous again when we played Barca at Old trafford.

Ronaldo's third fail, coming back from injury and missing a one on one against Barca, with Ibra soon after winning the tie for Barca.

Ronaldos fourth fail, Being anonymous in another Barceona game and RM lose 2-0

Ronaldo's fifth fail and by no means his last. Getting outshined by everysingle Barcelona player on the pitch and getting a huge dose of MANITA. Tito on the sidelines played better.

Ronaldo sixth fail. Scoring a penalty goal against a barca side that had already wrapped up the league after once again doing sod all all game, in a home game.

Ronaldos seventh fail, doing sod all in the copa but taking the headline after di marias hard work. Story of his life. hopefully ozil will take this away this season.

Ronaldos eigth fail. Being absolutely anonymous in the two classicos, when Messi ran through REals entire back line. and in the second game where barca had to just play keep ball.

Ninth fail: Ronaldo doing nothing apart from his tap in in the super cup, when agan, his "equal" messi, made pepe fall on his kness and beg for forgiveness and ripped Madrid apart again.

some other notable fails: Leaving united to win just a copa.

Winnning the pichichi after the title was over. Messi won CL top GS third year running, had highest assist in la liga, won 3 trophies and battered RM. COMINGSECOND BEST TO MESSI CONSISTENTLY FAIL

Coming third to xavi and messi in the new awards getting voted by 3, yes 3 people out of 53. So he is third best now. THIRD BEST TO MESSI FAIL

Scoring 5 freekicks after taking 60+ in a season so convering a 1/12 th and somehow managing to be called a free kick specialist. DISGUSISED FAIL

Final fail, scoring 3 tap ins again and getting the headlines against zaragoza. FAIL

Ronaldo has had a Pro career since 2001, and yet you only find couple of unfortunate situations to blame him for? butthurt much?
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Post by jibers Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:39 pm

The xcx wrote:
jibers wrote:
diptiman wrote:
jibers wrote:
El Pipita wrote:Rooney vs Cristiano Ronaldo - Page 3 Tumblr_ldb2ngu4Pq1qbfve3o1_500

so why does he always fail against barca?

'always fail'??

penalty goal in the league clasico where he performed quite well and messi didnt outshine him and it was honours even.. cup winning goal against barcelona was it? .. and the equalizing goal at the cam nou when were 1-0 down? .wow what a failure..i would love to fail like him

Ronaldos first fail against Barcelona: Missing a penalty and being second best to messi.

Ronaldos second fail, being anonymous again when we played Barca at Old trafford.

Ronaldo's third fail, coming back from injury and missing a one on one against Barca, with Ibra soon after winning the tie for Barca.

Ronaldos fourth fail, Being anonymous in another Barceona game and RM lose 2-0

Ronaldo's fifth fail and by no means his last. Getting outshined by everysingle Barcelona player on the pitch and getting a huge dose of MANITA. Tito on the sidelines played better.

Ronaldo sixth fail. Scoring a penalty goal against a barca side that had already wrapped up the league after once again doing sod all all game, in a home game.

Ronaldos seventh fail, doing sod all in the copa but taking the headline after di marias hard work. Story of his life. hopefully ozil will take this away this season.

Ronaldos eigth fail. Being absolutely anonymous in the two classicos, when Messi ran through REals entire back line. and in the second game where barca had to just play keep ball.

Ninth fail: Ronaldo doing nothing apart from his tap in in the super cup, when agan, his "equal" messi, made pepe fall on his kness and beg for forgiveness and ripped Madrid apart again.

some other notable fails: Leaving united to win just a copa.

Winnning the pichichi after the title was over. Messi won CL top GS third year running, had highest assist in la liga, won 3 trophies and battered RM. COMINGSECOND BEST TO MESSI CONSISTENTLY FAIL

Coming third to xavi and messi in the new awards getting voted by 3, yes 3 people out of 53. So he is third best now. THIRD BEST TO MESSI FAIL

Scoring 5 freekicks after taking 60+ in a season so convering a 1/12 th and somehow managing to be called a free kick specialist. DISGUSISED FAIL

Final fail, scoring 3 tap ins again and getting the headlines against zaragoza. FAIL

Ronaldo has had a Pro career since 2001, and yet you only find couple of unfortunate situations to blame him for? butthurt much?

but his pro career in FAILS to barca started in 2008.
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Post by the xcx Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:45 pm

jibers wrote:
The xcx wrote:
jibers wrote:
diptiman wrote:
jibers wrote:
El Pipita wrote:Rooney vs Cristiano Ronaldo - Page 3 Tumblr_ldb2ngu4Pq1qbfve3o1_500

so why does he always fail against barca?

'always fail'??

penalty goal in the league clasico where he performed quite well and messi didnt outshine him and it was honours even.. cup winning goal against barcelona was it? .. and the equalizing goal at the cam nou when were 1-0 down? .wow what a failure..i would love to fail like him

Ronaldos first fail against Barcelona: Missing a penalty and being second best to messi.

Ronaldos second fail, being anonymous again when we played Barca at Old trafford.

Ronaldo's third fail, coming back from injury and missing a one on one against Barca, with Ibra soon after winning the tie for Barca.

Ronaldos fourth fail, Being anonymous in another Barceona game and RM lose 2-0

Ronaldo's fifth fail and by no means his last. Getting outshined by everysingle Barcelona player on the pitch and getting a huge dose of MANITA. Tito on the sidelines played better.

Ronaldo sixth fail. Scoring a penalty goal against a barca side that had already wrapped up the league after once again doing sod all all game, in a home game.

Ronaldos seventh fail, doing sod all in the copa but taking the headline after di marias hard work. Story of his life. hopefully ozil will take this away this season.

Ronaldos eigth fail. Being absolutely anonymous in the two classicos, when Messi ran through REals entire back line. and in the second game where barca had to just play keep ball.

Ninth fail: Ronaldo doing nothing apart from his tap in in the super cup, when agan, his "equal" messi, made pepe fall on his kness and beg for forgiveness and ripped Madrid apart again.

some other notable fails: Leaving united to win just a copa.

Winnning the pichichi after the title was over. Messi won CL top GS third year running, had highest assist in la liga, won 3 trophies and battered RM. COMINGSECOND BEST TO MESSI CONSISTENTLY FAIL

Coming third to xavi and messi in the new awards getting voted by 3, yes 3 people out of 53. So he is third best now. THIRD BEST TO MESSI FAIL

Scoring 5 freekicks after taking 60+ in a season so convering a 1/12 th and somehow managing to be called a free kick specialist. DISGUSISED FAIL

Final fail, scoring 3 tap ins again and getting the headlines against zaragoza. FAIL

Ronaldo has had a Pro career since 2001, and yet you only find couple of unfortunate situations to blame him for? butthurt much?

but his pro career in FAILS to barca started in 2008.
So he has a mental block against barca, I dont call it a fail since we are pretty much still building a team, and to top it all of Barca is having an golden era. Hes not the player he was in Manu, everyone knows that, but he is an Ultimate goal scorer.
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Post by Jack Daniels Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:12 pm

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Coming third to xavi and messi in the new awards getting voted by 3, yes 3 people out of 53. So he is third best now. THIRD BEST TO MESSI FAIL
Where's Rooney?
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Post by jibers Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:18 pm

Jack Daniels wrote:
jibers wrote:
Coming third to xavi and messi in the new awards getting voted by 3, yes 3 people out of 53. So he is third best now. THIRD BEST TO MESSI FAIL
Where's Rooney?

Winnig the Prem and taking us to the cl final. Where's Ronaldo? O yea, getting triangled and frustrated by barca. WHen he hears tiki taka he crumbles in fear, trying to hide behind mou.
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Post by Doc Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:17 pm

Well Cristiano seems to be winning this poll but I do believe Real Madrid fans have made sure this is possible :p

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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:22 pm

Doc wrote:Well Cristiano seems to be winning this poll but I do believe Real Madrid fans have made sure this is possible :p


It's also the truth.

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Post by Lord Hades Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:27 pm

as if rooney has excelled against barca...

as if united wouldve won the la liga last season had they played.. and rooney led you to epl ? 'last season'? lol... he was poor.. last year

as if united wouldve progressed ot the finals had they got barca in semis
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Post by lszanto Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:49 pm

Rooney just has a few "top matches", a few "average matches" and then just sulks on and off for the rest of the season(in no order).

He lacks consistency imo, but similar to players like Bale etc when he is on he is ON but otherwise is overhyped.

That said, he's made a great start to the season so he may prove me wrong this season Smile
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Post by Pedram Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:21 am

jibers wrote:
diptiman wrote:
jibers wrote:
El Pipita wrote:Rooney vs Cristiano Ronaldo - Page 3 Tumblr_ldb2ngu4Pq1qbfve3o1_500

so why does he always fail against barca?

'always fail'??

penalty goal in the league clasico where he performed quite well and messi didnt outshine him and it was honours even.. cup winning goal against barcelona was it? .. and the equalizing goal at the cam nou when were 1-0 down? .wow what a failure..i would love to fail like him

Ronaldos first fail against Barcelona: Missing a penalty and being second best to messi.

Ronaldos second fail, being anonymous again when we played Barca at Old trafford.

Ronaldo's third fail, coming back from injury and missing a one on one against Barca, with Ibra soon after winning the tie for Barca.

Ronaldos fourth fail, Being anonymous in another Barceona game and RM lose 2-0

Ronaldo's fifth fail and by no means his last. Getting outshined by everysingle Barcelona player on the pitch and getting a huge dose of MANITA. Tito on the sidelines played better.

Ronaldo sixth fail. Scoring a penalty goal against a barca side that had already wrapped up the league after once again doing sod all all game, in a home game.

Ronaldos seventh fail, doing sod all in the copa but taking the headline after di marias hard work. Story of his life. hopefully ozil will take this away this season.

Ronaldos eigth fail. Being absolutely anonymous in the two classicos, when Messi ran through REals entire back line. and in the second game where barca had to just play keep ball.

Ninth fail: Ronaldo doing nothing apart from his tap in in the super cup, when agan, his "equal" messi, made pepe fall on his kness and beg for forgiveness and ripped Madrid apart again.

some other notable fails: Leaving united to win just a copa.

Winnning the pichichi after the title was over. Messi won CL top GS third year running, had highest assist in la liga, won 3 trophies and battered RM. COMINGSECOND BEST TO MESSI CONSISTENTLY FAIL

Coming third to xavi and messi in the new awards getting voted by 3, yes 3 people out of 53. So he is third best now. THIRD BEST TO MESSI FAIL

Scoring 5 freekicks after taking 60+ in a season so convering a 1/12 th and somehow managing to be called a free kick specialist. DISGUSISED FAIL

Final fail, scoring 3 tap ins again and getting the headlines against zaragoza. FAIL


So much butthurt from Man United fans i see. :coffee:
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Post by Khaled Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:43 am

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jibers wrote:
Ronaldos first fail against Barcelona: Missing a penalty and being second best to messi.

Ronaldos second fail, being anonymous again when we played Barca at Old trafford.

Ronaldo's third fail, coming back from injury and missing a one on one against Barca, with Ibra soon after winning the tie for Barca.

Ronaldos fourth fail, Being anonymous in another Barceona game and RM lose 2-0

Ronaldo's fifth fail and by no means his last. Getting outshined by everysingle Barcelona player on the pitch and getting a huge dose of MANITA. Tito on the sidelines played better.

Ronaldo sixth fail. Scoring a penalty goal against a barca side that had already wrapped up the league after once again doing sod all all game, in a home game.

Ronaldos seventh fail, doing sod all in the copa but taking the headline after di marias hard work. Story of his life. hopefully ozil will take this away this season.

Ronaldos eigth fail. Being absolutely anonymous in the two classicos, when Messi ran through REals entire back line. and in the second game where barca had to just play keep ball.

Ninth fail: Ronaldo doing nothing apart from his tap in in the super cup, when agan, his "equal" messi, made pepe fall on his kness and beg for forgiveness and ripped Madrid apart again.

some other notable fails: Leaving united to win just a copa.

Winnning the pichichi after the title was over. Messi won CL top GS third year running, had highest assist in la liga, won 3 trophies and battered RM. COMINGSECOND BEST TO MESSI CONSISTENTLY FAIL

Coming third to xavi and messi in the new awards getting voted by 3, yes 3 people out of 53. So he is third best now. THIRD BEST TO MESSI FAIL

Scoring 5 freekicks after taking 60+ in a season so convering a 1/12 th and somehow managing to be called a free kick specialist. DISGUSISED FAIL

Final fail, scoring 3 tap ins again and getting the headlines against zaragoza. FAIL

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Post by cyberman Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:51 pm

Ronaldos second fail, being anonymous again when we played Barca at Old trafford.



Im sorry, he was fantastic in that game. led the line and worked his socks off like a champ

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Post by Jack Daniels Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:13 pm

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Coming third to xavi and messi in the new awards getting voted by 3, yes 3 people out of 53. So he is third best now. THIRD BEST TO MESSI FAIL
Where's Rooney?

Winnig the Prem and taking us to the cl final. Where's Ronaldo? O yea, getting triangled and frustrated by barca. WHen he hears tiki taka he crumbles in fear, trying to hide behind mou.
Yeah with rooney winning all those titles yet CR comes third as best player explains a lot of things.

Even titles can't make rooney better lmao..
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Post by Pedram Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:23 pm

Jack Daniels wrote:
jibers wrote:
Jack Daniels wrote:
jibers wrote:
Coming third to xavi and messi in the new awards getting voted by 3, yes 3 people out of 53. So he is third best now. THIRD BEST TO MESSI FAIL
Where's Rooney?

Winnig the Prem and taking us to the cl final. Where's Ronaldo? O yea, getting triangled and frustrated by barca. WHen he hears tiki taka he crumbles in fear, trying to hide behind mou.
Yeah with rooney winning all those titles yet CR comes third as best player explains a lot of things.

Even titles can't make rooney better lmao..

it's quite funny too see Jack Daniels defending CR7. Razz
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Post by Jack Daniels Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:47 pm

I hate CR7 but using Barca or Messi to make CR7 look worse than Rooney is beyond ridiculous.
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Post by B-Mac Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:20 pm

lol at all these kids acting like they watch rooney play every week Laughing
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Post by izzy Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:30 pm

B-Mac MUFC wrote:lol at all these kids acting like they watch rooney play every week Laughing

I do.

I've watced Rooney since his early days with Everton. I watched all his FA youth cup games with Everton in 2002.
So, I don't know who these kids are. scratch
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Post by B-Mac Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:40 pm

izzy26 wrote:
B-Mac MUFC wrote:lol at all these kids acting like they watch rooney play every week Laughing

I do.

I've watced Rooney since his early days with Everton. I watched all his FA youth cup games with Everton in 2002.
So, I don't know who these kids are. scratch

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Post by izzy Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:44 pm

B-Mac MUFC wrote:
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Bit harsh don't you think? bounce
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