No Kun, No Rossi, Vucinic it is

baresi wrote:

DeviAngel wrote:

ynwa wrote:Liverpool is linked with new Juventus signing, Michel Bastos.

conte didn't wanted him .....he wants Vucinic as he needs LWST .... but I think Vucinic is the SS in the 4-2-4 and that we will sign great LW ....but dunno who it is

Lugano and vucinic seem on their way

-----Lichtsteiner-----Lugano??---Chiellini---Ziegler---
----------------Marchisio---Vidal----------
-----Krasic----Matri---Vucinic??-----LW?----

that ain't bad team u know

I cant see Pirlo, I thought he was a very important signing for Juve?

Devi is being very unrealistic.

Pirlo will be a huge starter, Conte confirmed this. De Ceglie will also start ahead of Ziegler, and Lugano will not be a starter, Bonucci will.

And nelcuore received a call from conte and made the news where conte said that

Turok_TTZ wrote:Vucinic? not madrid quality i tell ya that now. aguero and rossi are far closer to madrid quality than vucinic
How sad... my condolences to juventus fans. Marrotta is truly one incompetent f***.

How much more arrogant can one be?

this thread is about juve...

and people wonder why everything turns to madrid v barca

@Devi: mine is based on facts, your statements are not;

DeviAngel wrote:Rossi had one good season in VIllareall otherwise I am agaisnt him he sucks tbh he is not WC

Lionel Messi wrote:this thread is about juve...

and people wonder why everything turns to madrid v barca

I'm still baffled why he brought up Real Madrid in the 1st place honestly. Would not call it arrogant but I wonder the reasons behind it...

@Fonz: I did concede that Vucinic had strength but nothing else over Rossi, that is definitely why !

Lionel Messi wrote:

Turok_TTZ wrote:Vucinic? not madrid quality i tell ya that now. aguero and rossi are far closer to madrid quality than vucinic
How sad... my condolences to juventus fans. Marrotta is truly one incompetent f***.

How much more arrogant can one be?

I am just quite disappointed with juve's activity. they dont go for wc players , they go for moderate players. a club of juve's stature shudnt be signing such players. these players juve are signing... wudnt be a starter in any top team in england or in spain apart from pirlo, probably vidal as well. malaga, psg are outdoing juve in the transfer market. truly how the mighty have fallen.

@ LM
I say madrid quality as wc player that wud be a starter in just about any team except maybe barca. these juve signings... arent wc. they are good enough... to land juve a decent 5th place. juve need far better than wut they are signing if they are to challenge ac milan or inter for that matter.

Turok_TTZ wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

Turok_TTZ wrote:Vucinic? not madrid quality i tell ya that now. aguero and rossi are far closer to madrid quality than vucinic
How sad... my condolences to juventus fans. Marrotta is truly one incompetent f***.

How much more arrogant can one be?

I am just quite disappointed with juve's activity. they dont go for wc players , they go for moderate players. a club of juve's stature shudnt be signing such players. these players juve are signing... wudnt be a starter in any top team in england or in spain apart from pirlo, probably vidal as well. malaga, psg are outdoing juve in the transfer market. truly how the mighty have fallen.

Agree with you partly, but not really completely. Buffon, Chiellini, Vidal, and Pirlo would start at big clubs, I reckon even Marchisio could start for a team like Chelsea or United given that both showed interest in him, but that is neither here nor there.

Transfer market wise, I agree with you completely. Aguero AND Rossi both were willing to come, but Marotta would not put up the capital and passed on them and went for the cheap alternative.

PSG are doing fantastic, I wish I had that transfer director. Sirigu and Menez were bargains !

Turok_TTZ wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

Turok_TTZ wrote:Vucinic? not madrid quality i tell ya that now. aguero and rossi are far closer to madrid quality than vucinic
How sad... my condolences to juventus fans. Marrotta is truly one incompetent f***.

How much more arrogant can one be?

I am just quite disappointed with juve's activity. they dont go for wc players , they go for moderate players. a club of juve's stature shudnt be signing such players. these players juve are signing... wudnt be a starter in any top team in england or in spain apart from pirlo, probably vidal as well. malaga, psg are outdoing juve in the transfer market. truly how the mighty have fallen.

@ LM
I say madrid quality as wc player that wud be a starter in just about any team except maybe barca. these juve signings... arent wc. they are good enough... to land juve a decent 5th place. juve need far better than wut they are signing if they are to challenge ac milan or inter for that matter.

You still haven't answered my question as to what relevance Vucinic has to Madrid.

Do you have any links suggesting he was going to Madrid? Because I sure as hell don't.

Wanna know why?

Because he's never been linked with Madrid. Therefore, you calling him "not madrid material" constitutes trolling. Cut it out.

JuvenelCuore wrote:

Turok_TTZ wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

Turok_TTZ wrote:Vucinic? not madrid quality i tell ya that now. aguero and rossi are far closer to madrid quality than vucinic
How sad... my condolences to juventus fans. Marrotta is truly one incompetent f***.

How much more arrogant can one be?

I am just quite disappointed with juve's activity. they dont go for wc players , they go for moderate players. a club of juve's stature shudnt be signing such players. these players juve are signing... wudnt be a starter in any top team in england or in spain apart from pirlo, probably vidal as well. malaga, psg are outdoing juve in the transfer market. truly how the mighty have fallen.

Agree with you partly, but not really completely. Buffon, Chiellini, Vidal, and Pirlo would start at big clubs, I reckon even Marchisio could start for a team like Chelsea or United given that both showed interest in him, but that is neither here nor there.

Transfer market wise, I agree with you completely. Aguero AND Rossi both were willing to come, but Marotta would not put up the capital and passed on them and went for the cheap alternative.

PSG are doing fantastic, I wish I had that transfer director. Sirigu and Menez were bargains !

Im sorry, i meant to say the signings (except pirlo, vidal) that juve made this summer wudnt make it in other big teams. Im well aware that chiellini, buffon, vidal, pirlo, marchisio are capable to start in any top team. just saying that the signings apart from pirlo and vidal that juve made this transfer window is simply not up to scratch.

Turok_TTZ wrote:

JuvenelCuore wrote:

Turok_TTZ wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

Turok_TTZ wrote:Vucinic? not madrid quality i tell ya that now. aguero and rossi are far closer to madrid quality than vucinic
How sad... my condolences to juventus fans. Marrotta is truly one incompetent f***.

How much more arrogant can one be?

I am just quite disappointed with juve's activity. they dont go for wc players , they go for moderate players. a club of juve's stature shudnt be signing such players. these players juve are signing... wudnt be a starter in any top team in england or in spain apart from pirlo, probably vidal as well. malaga, psg are outdoing juve in the transfer market. truly how the mighty have fallen.

Agree with you partly, but not really completely. Buffon, Chiellini, Vidal, and Pirlo would start at big clubs, I reckon even Marchisio could start for a team like Chelsea or United given that both showed interest in him, but that is neither here nor there.

Transfer market wise, I agree with you completely. Aguero AND Rossi both were willing to come, but Marotta would not put up the capital and passed on them and went for the cheap alternative.

PSG are doing fantastic, I wish I had that transfer director. Sirigu and Menez were bargains !

Im sorry, i meant to say the signings (except pirlo, vidal) that juve made this summer wudnt make it in other big teams. Im well aware that chiellini, buffon, vidal, pirlo, marchisio are capable to start in any top team. just saying that the signings apart from pirlo and vidal that juve made this transfer window is simply not up to scratch.

Oh I see, in that case, I agree with you. My mistake then, I misunderstood or you were just a bit vague, but that is irrelevant now that we are on the same page.

I wish you would say this in the Juventus section so these "fans" can get a sense of reality.

Juve fans should be pleased about this, it's ridiculous how underrated Vucinic is. Aguero and Rossi would be better buys as they are younger and have immense potential but Vucinic is a great player. Has been Roma's best player for a few years along with Totti. He is class, would be good signing for Juve, trust me.

McLewis wrote:

Turok_TTZ wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

Turok_TTZ wrote:Vucinic? not madrid quality i tell ya that now. aguero and rossi are far closer to madrid quality than vucinic
How sad... my condolences to juventus fans. Marrotta is truly one incompetent f***.

How much more arrogant can one be?

I am just quite disappointed with juve's activity. they dont go for wc players , they go for moderate players. a club of juve's stature shudnt be signing such players. these players juve are signing... wudnt be a starter in any top team in england or in spain apart from pirlo, probably vidal as well. malaga, psg are outdoing juve in the transfer market. truly how the mighty have fallen.

@ LM
I say madrid quality as wc player that wud be a starter in just about any team except maybe barca. these juve signings... arent wc. they are good enough... to land juve a decent 5th place. juve need far better than wut they are signing if they are to challenge ac milan or inter for that matter.

You still haven't answered my question as to what relevance Vucinic has to Madrid.

Do you have any links suggesting he was going to Madrid? Because I sure as hell don't.

Wanna know why?

Because he's never been linked with Madrid. Therefore, you calling him "not madrid material" constitutes trolling. Cut it out.

He isnt madrid material as im trying to state that he isnt world class as in real madrid, u need to be wc to be even considered to play for madrid or have the potential to be wc. such quality cud be a starter in any top team. I'm using Madrid as a benchmark for quality. as such, vucinic fails as he wudnt be a starter in say... bayern, manutd, barca, madrid, milan, inter, liverpool. i have no intention of stating him coming to madrid, that is laughable and i have no clue how u came up with this interpretation. :?:

although now u mentioned it, he was linked with us sometime 4 years ago as schuster, who was rm coach at the time, was looking for a striker and he wanted vucinic, but vucinic declined us if memory serves correctly. but Im not talking about that am I?

im was questioning vucinic's quality and comparing that quality to the quality u wud find in the tops teams of the world, with madrid being the benchmark. this is why i say he isnt madrid material as the way i see it, he doesnt pass the benchmark at all nor wud he fit in any of the teams i mentioned earlier. hence, "not madrid material".

I really dont know how u wud come up with ur current interpretation of my text but know that u interpreted it completely wrong, i suggest u reread twice, i do not recall saying that vucinic is going to madrid. Do not twist my words to fit ur interpretation, that wud be much worse.

finally, try again.

JuvenelCuore wrote:

Turok_TTZ wrote:

JuvenelCuore wrote:

Turok_TTZ wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

Turok_TTZ wrote:Vucinic? not madrid quality i tell ya that now. aguero and rossi are far closer to madrid quality than vucinic
How sad... my condolences to juventus fans. Marrotta is truly one incompetent f***.

How much more arrogant can one be?

I am just quite disappointed with juve's activity. they dont go for wc players , they go for moderate players. a club of juve's stature shudnt be signing such players. these players juve are signing... wudnt be a starter in any top team in england or in spain apart from pirlo, probably vidal as well. malaga, psg are outdoing juve in the transfer market. truly how the mighty have fallen.

Agree with you partly, but not really completely. Buffon, Chiellini, Vidal, and Pirlo would start at big clubs, I reckon even Marchisio could start for a team like Chelsea or United given that both showed interest in him, but that is neither here nor there.

Transfer market wise, I agree with you completely. Aguero AND Rossi both were willing to come, but Marotta would not put up the capital and passed on them and went for the cheap alternative.

PSG are doing fantastic, I wish I had that transfer director. Sirigu and Menez were bargains !

Im sorry, i meant to say the signings (except pirlo, vidal) that juve made this summer wudnt make it in other big teams. Im well aware that chiellini, buffon, vidal, pirlo, marchisio are capable to start in any top team. just saying that the signings apart from pirlo and vidal that juve made this transfer window is simply not up to scratch.

Oh I see, in that case, I agree with you. My mistake then, I misunderstood or you were just a bit vague, but that is irrelevant now that we are on the same page.

I wish you would say this in the Juventus section so these "fans" can get a sense of reality.

excuse my lack of prowess in grammar, sometimes people misinterpret me due to the way i communicate and my lack of decent grammar skills. i think this is my fault more than it is urs for misunderstanding, this happens to me alot actually...

I don't think that Juve, at this time, can compete for players against Barca, Madrid, man u, etc. They are not CL qualified and give a sense of still being unsettled. They would have to overpay and, unlike, PSG, they are unwilling to do so. They're doing well considering their circumstances.

I'm just disappointed they don't get a wc cf. Having someone like that to build around makes the whole attack better,

Should've opened up the bank here.

sportsczy wrote:I don't think that Juve, at this time, can compete for players against Barca, Madrid, man u, etc. They are not CL qualified and give a sense of still being unsettled. They would have to overpay and, unlike, PSG, they are unwilling to do so. They're doing well considering their circumstances.

I'm just disappointed they don't get a wc cf. Having someone like that to build around makes the whole attack better,

Should've opened up the bank here.

This +1

10-15 yrs ago Italian clubs could have signed players of this level and yet be concidered a power horse in europe and compete on all fronts, when they had the coaches they had. But those days are well gone, Conte is relatively new and could'nt impress with a smaller club with a much lower ambition than Juve, so the least you could do to HELP him perform is equip the guy.

news flash: not everyone wants to talk about madrid in every thread

Matri is underrated. He's good enough as their CF, IMO.

Turok_TTZ wrote:

McLewis wrote:

Turok_TTZ wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

Turok_TTZ wrote:Vucinic? not madrid quality i tell ya that now. aguero and rossi are far closer to madrid quality than vucinic
How sad... my condolences to juventus fans. Marrotta is truly one incompetent f***.

How much more arrogant can one be?

I am just quite disappointed with juve's activity. they dont go for wc players , they go for moderate players. a club of juve's stature shudnt be signing such players. these players juve are signing... wudnt be a starter in any top team in england or in spain apart from pirlo, probably vidal as well. malaga, psg are outdoing juve in the transfer market. truly how the mighty have fallen.

@ LM
I say madrid quality as wc player that wud be a starter in just about any team except maybe barca. these juve signings... arent wc. they are good enough... to land juve a decent 5th place. juve need far better than wut they are signing if they are to challenge ac milan or inter for that matter.

You still haven't answered my question as to what relevance Vucinic has to Madrid.

Do you have any links suggesting he was going to Madrid? Because I sure as hell don't.

Wanna know why?

Because he's never been linked with Madrid. Therefore, you calling him "not madrid material" constitutes trolling. Cut it out.

He isnt madrid material as im trying to state that he isnt world class as in real madrid, u need to be wc to be even considered to play for madrid or have the potential to be wc. such quality cud be a starter in any top team. I'm using Madrid as a benchmark for quality. as such, vucinic fails as he wudnt be a starter in say... bayern, manutd, barca, madrid, milan, inter, liverpool. i have no intention of stating him coming to madrid, that is laughable and i have no clue how u came up with this interpretation. :?:

although now u mentioned it, he was linked with us sometime 4 years ago as schuster, who was rm coach at the time, was looking for a striker and he wanted vucinic, but vucinic declined us if memory serves correctly. but Im not talking about that am I?

im was questioning vucinic's quality and comparing that quality to the quality u wud find in the tops teams of the world, with madrid being the benchmark. this is why i say he isnt madrid material as the way i see it, he doesnt pass the benchmark at all nor wud he fit in any of the teams i mentioned earlier. hence, "not madrid material".

I really dont know how u wud come up with ur current interpretation of my text but know that u interpreted it completely wrong, i suggest u reread twice, i do not recall saying that vucinic is going to madrid. Do not twist my words to fit ur interpretation, that wud be much worse.

finally, try again.

You could have said "Juve" material, and avoided all this "isunderstanding".

Turok_TTZ wrote:

McLewis wrote:

Turok_TTZ wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

Turok_TTZ wrote:Vucinic? not madrid quality i tell ya that now. aguero and rossi are far closer to madrid quality than vucinic
How sad... my condolences to juventus fans. Marrotta is truly one incompetent f***.

How much more arrogant can one be?

I am just quite disappointed with juve's activity. they dont go for wc players , they go for moderate players. a club of juve's stature shudnt be signing such players. these players juve are signing... wudnt be a starter in any top team in england or in spain apart from pirlo, probably vidal as well. malaga, psg are outdoing juve in the transfer market. truly how the mighty have fallen.

@ LM
I say madrid quality as wc player that wud be a starter in just about any team except maybe barca. these juve signings... arent wc. they are good enough... to land juve a decent 5th place. juve need far better than wut they are signing if they are to challenge ac milan or inter for that matter.

You still haven't answered my question as to what relevance Vucinic has to Madrid.

Do you have any links suggesting he was going to Madrid? Because I sure as hell don't.

Wanna know why?

Because he's never been linked with Madrid. Therefore, you calling him "not madrid material" constitutes trolling. Cut it out.

He isnt madrid material as im trying to state that he isnt world class as in real madrid, u need to be wc to be even considered to play for madrid or have the potential to be wc. such quality cud be a starter in any top team. I'm using Madrid as a benchmark for quality. as such, vucinic fails as he wudnt be a starter in say... bayern, manutd, barca, madrid, milan, inter, liverpool. i have no intention of stating him coming to madrid, that is laughable and i have no clue how u came up with this interpretation. :?:

although now u mentioned it, he was linked with us sometime 4 years ago as schuster, who was rm coach at the time, was looking for a striker and he wanted vucinic, but vucinic declined us if memory serves correctly. but Im not talking about that am I?

im was questioning vucinic's quality and comparing that quality to the quality u wud find in the tops teams of the world, with madrid being the benchmark. this is why i say he isnt madrid material as the way i see it, he doesnt pass the benchmark at all nor wud he fit in any of the teams i mentioned earlier. hence, "not madrid material".

I really dont know how u wud come up with ur current interpretation of my text but know that u interpreted it completely wrong, i suggest u reread twice, i do not recall saying that vucinic is going to madrid. Do not twist my words to fit ur interpretation, that wud be much worse.

finally, try again.

I simply looked at your post and responded. No interpretation needed. That's not my point though.

This is a thread concerning Roma and Juventus with the player concerned being Mirko Vucinic.

Where does Real Madrid figure in this? Why was Madrid even mentioned?

Secondly, you vastly underrate Vucinic, but I will agree with you. He's not cut out for Madrid. Is that because he's not good enough? Absolutely not. It's because his style of football is incompatible with Madrid's. If you had said that instead of arrogantly assuming that he isn't good enough, I would not have taken offense.

Bottom line: Talk about Vucinic and his impact on Roma or Juventus or both. Nothing else. No need to go derailing this thread with biased nonsense.

Vucinic is by no means a bad player, he is actually a quality forward, but is he a difference maker? is he going to take juventus over the hump? I dont think so.

That's what Juventus should be after, leader in attack, people that have that extra bit of quality to their game, tangible or not, to differentiate them other sides.

They are not doing that. And even though Pirlo is probably going to become their most influential player, I still see them struggling a bit, specially if Pirlo's legs have a difficult time carrying him

Lionel Messi wrote:news flash: not everyone wants to talk about madrid in every thread

Yet you do. While most Juventus fans in this thread have understood and somewhat agreed with the point Turok tried to make. You're the one dragging the discussion about Madrid forth.