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Post by Vibe Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:32 am

Is it down to the manager?

When you look at Klopp he seems like the guy who can get in the dressing room and make the players squeeze every ounce of performance out of them, while Arteta doesn't seem like that.

Just an observation though, could be wrong.

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Post by El Gunner Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:37 am

it's a cultural Arsenal thing long before Arteta

Arteta has helped us a lot in many aspects since coming in, including some mentality stuff, but i wouldn't completely blame him for not changing all of it yet for the better. The squad is also still relatively young, and then you have leaders in the team like Zinchenko who cost us the win at Anfield last season.

Then again we overcame our poverty record against Man City earlier this season, so you never know. But Anfield is just a different animal altogether.
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Post by Vibe Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:42 am

Well I thought Liverpool were complete losers before Klopp, so I guess there's a lot a manager can do about that.
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Post by El Gunner Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:56 am

well it took Klopp 4 to 5 years before he turned Liverpool into mentality monsters
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Post by Nishankly Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:10 am

El Gunner wrote:well it took Klopp 4 to 5 years before he turned Liverpool into mentality monsters


Not really. More like 1.5 years, 2017 against City where we beat them 4-3 is still highlighted as one of the best examples and case studies of Klopp's system and madness. The scoreline flatters City because of the 2 late goals but those who watched the game do not remember City's goals. We also made the CL final that year, beating City home and away to make it to the final. This is the same City team that finished 100 points in that season.

Then in Klopp's third full season (2018), we hit 97 points and won the CL. Not sure where the 4-5 years comes from, Klopp hit the ground running.
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Post by El Gunner Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:20 am

you won the CL in 2019, and the PL in COVID 2020, that's where the 4-5 years is coming from, big guy
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Post by Nishankly Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:28 am

Klopp's Liverpool never needed to win trophies to be called a mentality monster. This seems more like coping to find some parallel with your Arteta timeline.
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Post by Nishankly Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:29 am

El Gunner wrote:

Then again we overcame our poverty record against Man City earlier this season, so you never know. But Anfield is just a different animal altogether.


Robertson, Mac and Jota out. This is the best time to play us at Anfield.
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Post by Arquitecto Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:39 am

Nishank's return Proud

Glad to see Nishy have a more positive outlook that I do on the team as Im somehow still struggling to get over the finished cycle of our winning team.

Klopp never truly has created a new cycle within his team so Im anticipating how this one pans out as I dont rate Mac as highly as others let alone before he came but am a huge fan of Szoboszlai for example.

United-LFC just doesn't have the same ring to it if not since SAF departed the building and am fully confident we will absolutely wreck them. In fact, Arsenal too. Piece of cake.
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Post by Nishankly Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:46 am

Vibe wrote:Well I thought Liverpool were complete losers before Klopp, so I guess there's a lot a manager can do about that.


You thought?

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Post by Nishankly Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:48 am

Arquitecto wrote:Nishank's return Proud

Glad to see Nishy have a more positive outlook that I do on the team as Im somehow still struggling to get over the finished cycle of our winning team.

Klopp never truly has created a new cycle within his team so Im anticipating how this one pans out as I dont rate Mac as highly as others let alone before he came but am a huge fan of Szoboszlai for example.

United-LFC just doesn't have the same ring to it if not since SAF departed the building and am fully confident we will absolutely wreck them. In fact, Arsenal too. Piece of cake.


Hahah hey Arq!

As I said, I think we are working through a new squad here, I am just happy Klopp signed an extension to rebuild the base of this team atleast. We will see the "Liverpool 2.0" next year. I am just expecting a few heartbreaks this year, something without which Klopp can't win anything lmao
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Post by Arquitecto Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:49 am

Rickie Lambert. A signing only Art Morty was excited about (of course). Banter era.
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Post by Arquitecto Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:50 am

Nishankly wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:Nishank's return Proud

Glad to see Nishy have a more positive outlook that I do on the team as Im somehow still struggling to get over the finished cycle of our winning team.

Klopp never truly has created a new cycle within his team so Im anticipating how this one pans out as I dont rate Mac as highly as others let alone before he came but am a huge fan of Szoboszlai for example.

United-LFC just doesn't have the same ring to it if not since SAF departed the building and am fully confident we will absolutely wreck them. In fact, Arsenal too. Piece of cake.


Hahah hey Arq!

As I said, I think we are working through a new squad here, I am just happy Klopp signed an extension to rebuild the base of this team atleast. We will see the "Liverpool 2.0" next year. I am just expecting a few heartbreaks this year, something without which Klopp can't win anything lmao



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That's just what I needed to hear. I really hope so.
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Post by Nishankly Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:52 am

Arquitecto wrote:


Heart Heart

That's just what I needed to hear. I really hope so.


watch us lose 3 games in a row now Laughing
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Post by Nishankly Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:52 am

Arquitecto wrote:Rickie Lambert. A signing only Art Morty was excited about (of course). Banter era.


He loved Joe Allen and was it Allardyce? as well. As Finnish as he was, he was a true Brexit means Brexit at heart.
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Post by Nishankly Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:58 am

Arquitecto wrote:
Nishankly wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:Nishank's return Proud

Glad to see Nishy have a more positive outlook that I do on the team as Im somehow still struggling to get over the finished cycle of our winning team.

Klopp never truly has created a new cycle within his team so Im anticipating how this one pans out as I dont rate Mac as highly as others let alone before he came but am a huge fan of Szoboszlai for example.

United-LFC just doesn't have the same ring to it if not since SAF departed the building and am fully confident we will absolutely wreck them. In fact, Arsenal too. Piece of cake.


Hahah hey Arq!

As I said, I think we are working through a new squad here, I am just happy Klopp signed an extension to rebuild the base of this team atleast. We will see the "Liverpool 2.0" next year. I am just expecting a few heartbreaks this year, something without which Klopp can't win anything lmao



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That's just what I needed to hear. I really hope so.


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Post by Vibe Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:05 pm

Typical Liverpool fan behaviour, turning up again when topping the table, smh.
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Post by Nishankly Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:11 pm

Vibe wrote:Typical Liverpool fan behaviour, turning up again when topping the table, smh.


I've been here almost every month mate Clubber
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Post by El Gunner Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:30 pm

Nishankly wrote:Klopp's Liverpool never needed to win trophies to be called a mentality monster. This seems more like coping to find some parallel with your Arteta timeline.

beat your ass 3-2 at The Emirates last season in a tight game, most goals scored in stoppage time this season... how's you like that coping, fool
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Post by Nishankly Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:39 pm

El Gunner wrote:
Nishankly wrote:Klopp's Liverpool never needed to win trophies to be called a mentality monster. This seems more like coping to find some parallel with your Arteta timeline.

beat your ass 3-2 at The Emirates last season in a tight game, most goals scored in stoppage time this season... how's you like that coping, fool


We got robbed mate :coffee:
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Post by Arquitecto Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:43 pm

Arty was indeed the most Brexit of the forum even above Unique.

Us in the LFC section clamouring for the Peps the Klopps the Contes meanwhile Arty wanting Tony Mobray, Steve Bruce, Paul Lambert and Neil fucking Warnock. Will never forget him wanting Chris fucking Brunt over Fabinho for the midfield Laughing
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Post by El Gunner Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:45 pm

Vibe wrote:Typical Liverpool fan behaviour, turning up again when topping the table, smh.

yuppp!!! he was crickets last season when we finished a WHOPPING 17 points ahead of them
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Post by El Gunner Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:46 pm

Arquitecto wrote:Arty was indeed the most Brexit of the forum even above Unique.

Us in the LFC section clamouring for the Peps the Klopps the Contes meanwhile Arty wanting Tony Mobray, Steve Bruce, Paul Lambert and Neil fucking Warnock. Will never forget him wanting Chris fucking Brunt over Fabinho for the midfield Laughing

his NBA fantasy team is even called "White Mambas"
cool dude, never had any problems with him, but there definitely is some undercurrent racism running through his veins
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Post by Arquitecto Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:46 pm

Arsenal game shouldn't be hard to be honest. Just put them under pressure and they wilt. Bukake Saka will try the same dance and turn back on the right, Jesus the ghost in the box and Arteta subbing on Nketiah to save the day rofl

Next.
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Post by Nishankly Tue Dec 12, 2023 1:06 pm

Nonsense, I actually posted more last season compared to this year. Neutral
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Post by Arquitecto Tue Dec 12, 2023 1:13 pm

El Gunner wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:Arty was indeed the most Brexit of the forum even above Unique.

Us in the LFC section clamouring for the Peps the Klopps the Contes meanwhile Arty wanting Tony Mobray, Steve Bruce, Paul Lambert and Neil fucking Warnock. Will never forget him wanting Chris fucking Brunt over Fabinho for the midfield Laughing

his NBA fantasy team is even called "White Mambas"
cool dude, never had any problems with him, but there definitely is some undercurrent racism running through his veins


Arty left no doubt due to the forums affinity for discrimination against bald managers and hinted his disdain for it once or twice

Edit: turns out he is still here Proud
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