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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:00 pm

Played through this game in second gear. We are going to drown against City without a CDM.

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Post by Thimmy Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:04 pm

futbol_bill wrote:Odd statement! Isn’t Kante, one of the best DM in the world?


I'd argue that he was the most impactful player in the world a few years ago, but he's been struggling with injuries and poor form in recent years. He's 32, and he's been so frequently injured that I think it was mentioned somewhere that his last 4 games were played under 4 different coaches or something.


I hope Bayern pull a miracle out of their ass against City, so that we don't have to play against them. I'd much rather play against Bayern. That might bring back Hans as well Laughing


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Post by Blue Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:04 pm

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Thimmy wrote:Well, I wish Enrique, Nagelsmann.. or whoever else they hire good luck. Because they recently wasted a ton of money in a transfer window on players with varying quality, and they still have a squad with a bunch of over the hill ones and relatively little tangible, sustainable quality for a top team. The right signings may improve things, but tactics and cheerleaders won't.


Potter had a 31% winning record at Brighton, he was a terrible manager and lampard has 1 win in his last 17 games. A manager will improve things dramatically. Also investing on the most important position on the the team a DM.


Yes, and now Potter's been sacked while Brighton are 7th in the league with probably the most underrated player in the league in Kaoru Mitoma. I have no clue who their manager is, but they're performing above expectations due to having a stronger team than they usually have. Did Potter man manage those players into who they are right now? I have no clue, but they do have stronger players than you'd normally expect Brighton to have.



De Zerbi is a better manager than Potter, he coached Shaktar before. Brighton have some good players like Caicedo and Alexis Mac Allister. Both players will likely play for a bigger side next season.

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Post by Thimmy Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:08 pm

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Potter had a 31% winning record at Brighton, he was a terrible manager and lampard has 1 win in his last 17 games. A manager will improve things dramatically. Also investing on the most important position on the the team a DM.


Yes, and now Potter's been sacked while Brighton are 7th in the league with probably the most underrated player in the league in Kaoru Mitoma. I have no clue who their manager is, but they're performing above expectations due to having a stronger team than they usually have. Did Potter man manage those players into who they are right now? I have no clue, but they do have stronger players than you'd normally expect Brighton to have.



De Zerbi is a better manager than Potter, he coached Shaktar before. Brighton have some good players like Caicedo and Alexis Mac Allister. Both players will likely play for a bigger side next season.



Oh yeah, I forgot about Mac Allister. I imagine both him and Mitoma will make a move next season.
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Post by Blue Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:09 pm

Thimmy wrote:
futbol_bill wrote:Odd statement! Isn’t Kante, one of the best DM in the world?


I'd argue that he was the most impactful player in the world a few years ago, but he's been struggling with injuries and poor form in recent years. He's 32, and he's been so frequently injured that I think it was mentioned somewhere that his last 4 games were played under 4 different coaches or something.


Yeah his last game was Tuchel, came back Potter was sacked, played one game with Bruno, and now with Lampard.

Kante is a great player when healthy, not sure if those injuries have caught up to him or not. His contract expires this summer.

When Leicester won the league, Drinkwater was the holding midfielder, Matic under Conte, and Jorghino with Sarri and Tuchel.

He is a monster as a B2B, hardly been tried as a holding midfielder but that would limit his capability.
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Post by Blue Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:15 pm

I am not sure if we should buy Felix, he has some great ability but too individualistic, doesn't press, and poor end product. Maybe another manager could get more out of him. But i rather save the money and invest in Mudryk who has insane potential with his combination of athleticism, work rate, and skills. He reminds me of Salah when he was at Chelsea. The talent is there, one of the fastest players in football, faster than Mbappe.

Tuchel signings were so bad, Lukaku, sterling who is past his prime, Koulibaly also past his prime but can be useful still i think, and Cucu who is not better than the LB we loaned out.
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Post by Thimmy Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:22 pm

Blue wrote:I am not sure if we should buy Felix, he has some great ability but too individualistic, doesn't press, and poor end product.


That's the impression I got from him when I watched him at Atletico as well, so it might be that he's just too limited as a player. His technical ability is exciting to watch, but his end product leaves a lot to be desired and he gets pushed off the ball much too easily. He's still young, at least.
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Post by Casciavit Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:18 am

Mudryk is way too raw to play at this level.

I can understand why Arteta wanted him because he has great physical tools and is very creative on the ball, but his basics are complete shit.

If Arsenal signed him, Mudryk wouldn't have played a single minute this season. He'd just be training and working on Arsenal's patterns in training. It would be similar to how Sane didn't see any minutes from September 2016 - December 2016.

100M for a project signing who only played 4365 minutes in his career up until he joined Chelsea (this includes Uefa Youth league minutes lol). That's roughly 48 professional games in the Ukranian league. If he was 18, you'd think it's fine, but he's 22. I don't think his first touch is ever going to be clean and consistent.

So yeah, this is a guy who needs a coach who will train him how to position his body to receive the ball, force him to hug the touchline, have him work on his first touch constantly, and just really simplify his game. Chelsea isn't stable enough to provide him that platform right now. He needs a positional play coach like Enrique/Naglesmann to come in.
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Post by Myesyats Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:31 am

Blue wrote:I am not sure if we should buy Felix, he has some great ability but too individualistic, doesn't press, and poor end product. Maybe another manager could get more out of him. But i rather save the money and invest in Mudryk who has insane potential with his combination of athleticism, work rate, and skills. He reminds me of Salah when he was at Chelsea. The talent is there, one of the fastest players in football, faster than Mbappe.

Tuchel signings were so bad, Lukaku, sterling who is past his prime, Koulibaly also past his prime but can be useful still i think, and Cucu who is not better than the LB we loaned out.

You shouldnt buy Felix which means you will Laughing

I'm still shocked Cucurella went for so much money, would've never thought that when he was back at La Masia, and he is quite average so I don't think it's me who's totally off the mark here hmm
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