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Post by Vibe Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:25 pm

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Vibe wrote:Real is a joy to watch today. Big matches bring out the best in them, that is the winning culture within the club.

Kroos looking like Casemiro out there. Benzema dropping deep and linking up is beautiful as always. Carvajal is useless and Valverde seems shaken by Baena incident still.

All in all, Chelsea look like cup opponents from the second division to Real tonight so far.

I still haven't figured out what type of player Rodrygo is precisely.


Puzzling statement! That goal was the result of an incredible pass from Carvajal.


Yes that was nice but he strikes me as the worst player quality wise in the whole lineup right now. Clearly not what he used to be.

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Post by Thimmy Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:30 pm

Haaland would thrive with this direct football. I really wish he played for us. Man City's football lulls me to sleep sometimes with their lengthy spells of possession recycling, and his athleticism is hardly being utilized.
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Post by Thimmy Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:34 pm

I've loved Carvajal ever since we brought him back from Leverkusen, but I have felt for a while now that his best days are well behind him. He's not bad by any means, but any opposing player with some speed loves taking him on.

Asensio scores to make it 2-0.
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:00 pm

Good game. Thought we got worse with the subs. Really don't know why Camavinga came out, he and Vini were having alot of joy down their side.

We have huge issues breaking PTB teams. We really need to become alot better.

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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:28 pm

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Post by FennecFox7 Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:27 am

Business as usual. We need to take our chances better however
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Post by BarcaLearning Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:02 am

Felix has turned out to be a flop even age his relatively young age? Razz Man he suck big time... although tbf Chelsea are just a mess all round. Anyone would know Lampard isnt cut out for this big job...guess hes just a temp until the summer... otherwise Chelsea are fked Razz

Cucurella for fking 60M is also a joke, just another one in the endless amount of money wasted by the management who seem to have no idea as usual...
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Post by Myesyats Thu Apr 13, 2023 10:18 am

Lampards tactics were very naive, too counter attack oriented and he let Madrid suffocate them. You can’t do that, have to take initiative instead of folding and betting on the odd counter to save you
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Post by Thimmy Thu Apr 13, 2023 10:27 am

Yeah, he should've played more like they've played in the league under 4 different managers. Clearly, the manager is the problem here hmm
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Apr 13, 2023 11:20 am

Myesyats wrote:Lampards tactics were very naive, too counter attack oriented and he let Madrid suffocate them. You can’t do that, have to take initiative instead of folding and betting on the odd counter to save you
No it was the right tactics imo. Lampard knows we can't break down PTB. Chelsea defended with 9 players behind the ball and we had difficulties breaking them down. If they started opening up ala Liverpool we'd have evicerated them on the counter.
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:45 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:Good game. Thought we got worse with the subs. Really don't know why Camavinga came out, he and Vini were having alot of joy down their side.

We have huge issues breaking PTB teams. We really need to become alot better.




This generally is an Ancelotti problem. His teams especially this ageing Madrid move the ball too slow for that and it tends to centre around the crux of the attack as Carlo seems to like.

But by the Gods the the winning mentality in this Madrid is the best I have ever seen.
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Post by Perucho21 Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:52 pm

Would've preferred to kill this tie yesterday, but we looked fine

Chelsea are in a bad state. Never understood firing a manager right before an important competition (Bayern too) but it so far worked in our favor

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Post by Blue Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:45 pm

Lol at Lampard lineup, we have one attacker on the field(havertz), two goals down and decides to play 5 defenders and 4 CM.

Literally the worst lineup i have seen.

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Post by Myesyats Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:54 pm

I mean, Lampard's re-appointment was very puzzling to begin with, he's a clueless coach and definitely not even good enough for a short-term caretaker. Not sure why they didn't just stick with Potter until summer, what was even the point of all that
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Post by Thimmy Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:33 pm

Who should they appoint, and what will he accomplish? hmm
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Post by Myesyats Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:41 pm

Definitely not the one person that they sacked for being dogshit merely 2 years ago!

They're speaking with Luis Enrique, which I think would be a great choice, moreso than Nagelsmann who seems like a fraud and dresses like a homeless person. Enrique's direct football will suit Chelsea well

With the investment made to the squad, and Nkuku still yet to arrive (among others probably), they should be pushing for the PL title IMO.
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Post by Blue Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:45 pm

Thimmy wrote:Who should they appoint, and what will he accomplish? hmm


In the summer? probably Nagelsmann, since we have hired a few guys from the Red bull system.
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Post by Thimmy Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:48 pm

Well, I wish Enrique, Nagelsmann.. or whoever else they hire good luck. Because they recently wasted a ton of money in a transfer window on players with varying quality, and they still have a squad with a bunch of over the hill ones and relatively little tangible, sustainable quality for a top team. The right signings may improve things, but tactics and cheerleaders won't.
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Post by Blue Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:04 pm

Thimmy wrote:Well, I wish Enrique, Nagelsmann.. or whoever else they hire good luck. Because they recently wasted a ton of money in a transfer window on players with varying quality, and they still have a squad with a bunch of over the hill ones and relatively little tangible, sustainable quality for a top team. The right signings may improve things, but tactics and cheerleaders won't.


Potter had a 31% winning record at Brighton, he was a terrible manager and lampard has 1 win in his last 17 games. A manager will improve things dramatically. Also investing on the most important position on the the team a DM.
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Post by futbol_bill Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:55 pm

Odd statement! Isn’t Kante, one of the best DM in the world?
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:31 pm

Real walking away with this but a better team could have made them suffer today. City will be a good test (and the real final).
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Post by Blue Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:42 pm

futbol_bill wrote:Odd statement! Isn’t Kante, one of the best DM in the world?

He is a B2B and injured all season literally. We need an actual DM like Casemiro.

Good luck to Real, hope they beat City.
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Post by futbol_bill Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:46 pm

It wasn’t that long ago that Sports was saying Kante was far better DM than Casemiro would ever be!
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Post by BarcaLearning Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:46 pm

Looking at that Chelsea bench n just lol... those players are good enough to be a mid table team at least with team B Very Happy Pretty sure if a decent manager came in n just sort of who is suitable n who needs to go they will instantly improve? Just too stacked atm but without even a proper 9 n old T.Silva still leading the d says it all? Wtf have they been doing...
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Post by Thimmy Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:56 pm

Blue wrote:
Thimmy wrote:Well, I wish Enrique, Nagelsmann.. or whoever else they hire good luck. Because they recently wasted a ton of money in a transfer window on players with varying quality, and they still have a squad with a bunch of over the hill ones and relatively little tangible, sustainable quality for a top team. The right signings may improve things, but tactics and cheerleaders won't.


Potter had a 31% winning record at Brighton, he was a terrible manager and lampard has 1 win in his last 17 games. A manager will improve things dramatically. Also investing on the most important position on the the team a DM.


Yes, and now Potter's been sacked while Brighton are 7th in the league with probably the most underrated player in the league in Kaoru Mitoma. I have no clue who their manager is, but they're performing above expectations due to having a stronger team than they usually have. Did Potter man manage those players into who they are right now? I have no clue, but they do have stronger players than you'd normally expect Brighton to have.

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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:00 pm

Played through this game in second gear. We are going to drown against City without a CDM.
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