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Post by El Gunner Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:38 am

BarcaLearning wrote:Such a shame if they dont end up getting along... MNM could be the biggest trio ever, just to be as good as MSN would be some sight, but all this.... fuk... pretty pathetic n a waste...

on paper they never had the chance to be as good as MSN. In the MSN trio all three of them complemented each other and had defined roles.

While in this trio Mbappe doesn't have the technical guile and smarts to play up top, he's pretty much a pace and inshallah merchant that has good enough skill to pull off dribbles and a good level of finishing from the left side of attack. Therefore this leaves Neymar in no man's land because Neymar isn't a pure 9, he has always been more of a supporting striker that drifts around like a 10. But of course Messi is too old now that there really is no other position for Messi to occupy but those deep-lying 10 positions to initiate the attacks because he is by far the best passer and highest IQ player in that team. So yea, these are the biggest reasons that this trio has always been fated to fail.

In an ideal world it would only have worked if Messi was younger so that he could play more on the right side like his younger days with Eto'o and Henry, and Neymar was less of a diva and had prime Griezmann work rate.

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Post by futbol_bill Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:06 pm

sportsczy wrote:Mbappe has been pissed off at Neymar for his lack of professionalism since late year 2, early year 3.  Made a "peace" for the sake of appearances and there's noting personal frankly...  just professional issues.

Mbappe's issue is that Neymar simply cannot be counted on.  Last 2 years he was partying, out of shape and mostly injured as a result.  Suddenly, he gets in shape right before the WC and should be given his status back?  No way.  Mbappe has been there every day, giving 100% and carrying the team for 2 years now.

Neymar is on his way out anyhow.  His early form is the best thing that could have ever happened for PSG.  Now they can likely find someone to take him and pay his whole salary.

I guarantee you guys that Neymar will revert to his fat, unprofessional normal self as soon as the WC is over.  Seen this movie a million times.


Sports, I think you are forgetting his new contract came into effect this summer. I believe it was for 5 years and some ridiculous salary, as per the norm for the oil state.

No way Neymar departs unless someone will match that salary regardless how many feuds he has with Mbappe, coach, owners. Just the way, no one gets to depart PSG easily, these long term high salary contracts will make it all but impossible to kick them out, short of buying out the contract!

And Neymar professionalism reputation is well known so no-one will bite with that salary.
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Post by Arquitecto Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:27 pm

Mbappe is an asshole but that isn't really important if he is nice or not. He is competitive and wants to be the best.

Nerman does not. He is spent and well past it and does not show up for Paris when they need either. He has been outperformed by Mbappe for over two years and is intensely unprofessional and already is finding his next excuse to attend his sister's birthday party.

Paris don't need Neyman,, they need Mbappe.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:04 pm

Neither wants to be the best. They both chose Ligue 1. The best want to prove themselves against the best week in week out, not play in a farmers league.
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Post by futbol_bill Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:11 pm

Arquitecto wrote:Mbappe is an asshole but that isn't really important if he is nice or not. He is competitive and wants to be the best.

Nerman does not. He is spent and well past it and does not show up for Paris when they need either. He has been outperformed by Mbappe for over two years and is intensely unprofessional and already is finding his next excuse to attend his sister's birthday party.

Paris don't need Neyman,, they need Mbappe.




But but …. Paris or rather Oil State is stuck with Neymar for next 5 years, as per the new contract that went into effect this summer.

Unless paying off a 5 year contract is feasible to them? I believe it is 35M a year, so a buyout is 175M. I know most, if not all would say no way, but the way the oil state splashes money, who knows in this case.

As to the alternative, can you see City or Chelsea paying an unprofessional talent 35M a year. I list only them as I don’t see anyone else as likely candidates, perhaps ManU. But i doubt any of them!
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Post by Myesyats Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:10 pm

- Mbappé renewed with PSG & was promised that the team would be “his”

- The player expected the rest of the team to serve him on the pitch but the others didn’t like this idea

- Mbappé began to feel isolated from the rest of the group

- PSG spoke about the possibility of Neymar’s departure & Mbappé did not oppose it, Neymar did not appreciate this when he found out

- After the game on Saturday, the atmosphere in the dressing room was bad

- There was an argument between Mbappé & players that had to be separated to prevent something worse from happening

- The situation continues because Mbappé still wants to be the star of PSG, he wants to finish plays & help less without the ball

source: Marcelo Bechler

Laughing this guy is insufferable it seems
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Post by sportsczy Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:57 pm

That's incomplete and short sighted.

The issue is and has been Neymar's lack of professionalism. In short, Mbappe does not trust and won't "hand" over anything until Neymar rebuilds the trust and shows that he's reliable. That's the issue.

In contrast, he had no problems handing over PKs to Benzema when he returned to NT because he deems Benzema as trustable and earned it... not to mention he feels Benzema is the best player in the world.

If Messi asked to take a PK, Mbappe would let him without an issue.

Neymar... no. Absolutely feels that he's the reason that PSG became a party club.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:16 pm

Leave it to PSG to turn a once humble, hard-working player into an insufferable, toxic little shit.

Benzema, when he saw that Rodrygo had already two goals to his name against Manchester City in the second leg of the Champions League semi-final, he offered him to take the penalty to make it a hattrick. In a mighty CL semi-final.

Then you have this little shit, throwing tantrums over a penalty against freaking Montpellier in freaking Ligue I Uber Eats, after missing the first one with PSG already having the game in the bag.

Maybe he should take lessons from Benzema on how to be a humble, caring champion. Maybe he should tone down his sense of entitlement and selfishness. And maybe PSG should collectively drag their balls through a mile of broken glass for the monster they have created.
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Aug 18, 2022 12:17 am

Myesyats wrote:- Mbappé renewed with PSG & was promised that the team would be “his”

- The player expected the rest of the team to serve him on the pitch but the others didn’t like this idea

- Mbappé began to feel isolated from the rest of the group

- PSG spoke about the possibility of Neymar’s departure & Mbappé did not oppose it, Neymar did not appreciate this when he found out

- After the game on Saturday, the atmosphere in the dressing room was bad

- There was an argument between Mbappé & players that had to be separated to prevent something worse from happening

- The situation continues because Mbappé still wants to be the star of PSG, he wants to finish plays & help less without the ball

source: Marcelo Bechler

Laughing this guy is insufferable it seems
Laughing I can'tbelievemy eyes. The team to only serve him. Who makes requests like that
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Post by Warrior Thu Aug 18, 2022 12:52 am

A bit disappointing from the supposed leader of the team. His status will establish as new players arrive at the club, surely he could not expect his current teammates, some of them since 5 years, or legends like Messi or Ramos, to suddenly bow down before him scratch

Anyways Neymar is pouring oil into the fire by liking negative facebook posts about Mbappé. They both seem very difficult to manage and while Neymar is a lost case i think Mbappé could become likeable again in the future, maybe just going through a power trip phase.
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Post by Chad31 Thu Aug 18, 2022 1:10 am

Myesyats wrote:- Mbappé renewed with PSG & was promised that the team would be “his”

- The player expected the rest of the team to serve him on the pitch but the others didn’t like this idea

- Mbappé began to feel isolated from the rest of the group

- PSG spoke about the possibility of Neymar’s departure & Mbappé did not oppose it, Neymar did not appreciate this when he found out

- After the game on Saturday, the atmosphere in the dressing room was bad

- There was an argument between Mbappé & players that had to be separated to prevent something worse from happening

- The situation continues because Mbappé still wants to be the star of PSG, he wants to finish plays & help less without the ball

source: Marcelo Bechler

Laughing this guy is insufferable it seems

So the cr model? That what it seems like tbh, anyway I feel mbappe stayed at psg, cause rm won the CL while knocking out psg can't come rm wanting to be second coming of cr all over again, can't over rule benzema or vini, so now he has force himself to work with neymar and why does he needs so much power anyway, your just asking to get side eyes look from teammates when management does anything.

People needs to stop justifying mbappe behavior because of neymar, just another silly excuse like how fans love to justify cr doucheness with being the best, sounds more like scapegoating imo, end of the day mbappe had his chance to play a CL final along with neymar and they lost, just own it and comeback stronger next time simple instead of giving the nod for neymar sale behind his back like a fake.

I'm not excusing neymar either but the guy didn't fake what he was doing cause psg is a joke club with low standards and neymar took advantage of that, that on psg.

Lastly I'm not buying mbappe has problems with neymar behavior or how unprofessional he is, he just wants the team for himself and wants psg to buy a bunch of players to play for him and nothing else.

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Post by sportsczy Thu Aug 18, 2022 2:05 am

Mbappe could care less if you like him or not... he just wants to win.  And he doesn't want to take the easy path to winning either.  His vision is to create his own unique legend.  That's why he stayed at PSG.  He's 23.  He can create a unique legend at PSG and, success or failure, decide his next path at the age of 26 right as he enters his prime years.

He's from Paris, his father is a youth educator in the Paris area, his childhood club is PSG.  Is it so hard to understand?  The club he's passionate about is PSG and always has been. He's French lol.
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Post by Thimmy Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:51 am



Things didn't work out quite as planned for Neymar, did it? Pressi Mbappe: The monster QSG made  - Page 2 1f605
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Post by M99 Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:36 am

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No reason why Mbappe should be taking penalties at all.
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Post by Myesyats Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:11 am

Sports really defending this ninija turtle as if it were his own son Very Happy

I have no complaints with regards to Neymar's professionalism during his spell at Barca, it must be PSG's fault that they yield too much power to individual players and even still this should be sorted out by the manager/sporting directors and not for Mbappe to decide
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:57 am

Mbappe has had a carefully guided career until the recon stumbles. Saying he doesn’t care to be liked or not, could not be further from the truth. He does. He just went on a power trip at PSG and it’s kind of disappointing to see. He is playing with guys that now dislike him because he went to get power from the team owner instead of taking it on the pitch, with the respect of his mates.
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Post by Casciavit Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:54 am

If you have to go around telling your teammates you're that guy, then you really aren't that guy.

Simple as.

He pulled the same shit in the Euros and got laughed at by Pogba and Griezmann.

He's desperate to be recognized as the top guy and have others play for him. Did Messi and Ronaldo go around telling their teammates that or did their teammates simply acknowledge it based on how they played on the pitch? Laughing

Even after carrying PSG last year and being given everything by the owner and being involved in sporting decisions his teammates still don't recognize him as the top guy. That kills his ego. It'll be interesting to see how this drama plays out over the course of this season.
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Post by farfan Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:04 am

Casciavit wrote:If you have to go around telling your teammates you're that guy, then you really aren't that guy.

Simple as


Exactly Laughing That status is earned not given. Your teammates will organically defer to you if they felt that you were truly that guy.
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Post by futbol_bill Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:14 pm

Remember how Sports kept telling us that Mbappe was a humble guy and not driven by money!

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Post by danyjr Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:10 pm

futbol_bill wrote:Remember how Sports kept telling us that Mbappe was a humble guy and not driven by money!

rofl
He is. He loves Paris. He is from France and Paris. So he loves Paris. He doesn't care about money. He has more money than you. And a bigger dick. I've seen it myself.

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Post by Arquitecto Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:46 pm

Christ my boy Sports is getting roasted here ouch. Do something Laughing

Mbappe is an example of giving someone too much importance and flattery. Its gets to their head especially when they are as young as he is.


Lets not act like the same thing didn't happen with Messi even if not as as overt as Kylian.

You do this to any player this will happen. Same to Neymar since he came to Paris who now mopes around as if he was denied going to his sister's birthday party.
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Post by sportsczy Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:45 pm

Well what am I going to say to a bunch of haters?  

He's the centerpiece of the club, Messi and Neymar are not.  So either they get on board or they will be kicked aside.

According to pundits, Neymar was told in no uncertain terms who the PK and set piece taker is.  Until either Mbappe does really poorly at them or he decides to give some to his teammates (which he always has), it's his.

Way it should be.  Messi took all the PKs in Barca and he was not the best taker (never rated him as a pk taker tbh).

And this is not Neymar's first... he threw a hissy fit when Cavani wanted to take PKs and Cavani is an excellent PK taker and was PSG's all time scorer.  Neymar is as two-faced and egotistical as it gets.  Mbappe is not going to back down to him... and why should he.  If Messi asked, completely different. But Messi is not Neymar; he's a gentleman. So he wouldn't do it publicly and right after Mbappe missed one. He'd find the right time.
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Post by Myesyats Mon Aug 29, 2022 6:53 pm

neymar wanted to be the main man, now he has to ask mcfrappe if he can take the pen

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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:15 pm

Myesyats wrote:neymar wanted to be the main man, now he has to ask mcfrappe if he can take the pen



Waiting to pop my popcorn for when hell breaks loose
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