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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:23 pm

Someone had to jinx it, I am here for it Proud
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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:28 pm

99% sure?
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:39 pm

99.99%
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Post by Perucho21 Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:05 pm

Tic Tac
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Post by Cyborg Fri Aug 27, 2021 5:41 pm

Courtois
Carvajal Nacho Alaba Miguel
Valverde Casemiro
Hazard
Mbappe Benzema Vini
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Aug 27, 2021 5:46 pm

Awful line up Cyborg Smile hope that never happens
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Post by futbol_bill Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:10 pm

I wonder how much playing time Hazard, Vinicius actually get let alone Bale, Rodrigo, Asensio? Perhaps there is some validity to what DoC said in other thread about maybe Hazard going to Juve. Awfully late thought.
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Post by Perucho21 Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:26 pm

Asensio is finished. We should def cash in on him.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:32 pm

Asensio is so finished that Ancelotti trains him as interior now 😂
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Post by futbol_bill Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:47 pm

All of Asensio, Isco, Marcelo, Vallejo, Bale are finished but they are here for the year. The trying of Asensio at midfield was simply to try another warm body in a midfield low on body count from an overcrowded attacker field.

Up for sale or loans is Jovic and Odriozola (although his move may already be completed). Plus they are still working on Mariano.

What has been stated is that Flo is anxious for more sales with the idea of building up transfer funds for next summer. Case in point they are considering cancelling the loan deal of Mayoral to sell him (in Italy). plus Ceballos is planned to be moved in January. A sale of Hazard would fit in nicely with this plan!
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Post by sportsczy Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:28 pm

Bale leaving opens up wages at the very least.

What can or cannot happen next year entirely depends on this new COVID19 variant, sadly.  If clubs are forced to close or limit their stadium attendance + the shit media deal that La Liga has...  well, austerity it is.

A big moneymaker for clubs is also exhibitions, as much as we hate them.  Those are currently gone too.

All football clubs (and venue entertainment in general) need to figure out virtual/digital revenue streams. OR, just adjust wages and transfer fees to account for, well, less revenue. What a novel idea.
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Post by Perucho21 Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:07 pm

Bill curious question

How is it that we can afford to offer PSG up to 180m for Mbappe? As you stated there didn't seem to be no funds available for any signings. Doesn't seem like the case here. Maybe we aren't as broke as many seem to think that we are during these troubled times
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Post by futbol_bill Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:31 am

They have raised 200M in sales, that’s counting a couple  of older ones. Biggest contributors were Varane and Odegaard. There as a full listing a couple of weeks ago when Odegaard deal was being discussed. I kept saying, but noone was listening, we weren’t (as comparisons were being made of us and Barca) broke. We were short in transfer funds but operating budget that covers salaries was just fine. Enough that they can offer the salary necessary. There was an analysis of true operating budget vs salary load (actual cost to club) amongst big clubs and RMadrid was the only one in the green!


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Post by Valkyrja Sat Aug 28, 2021 7:15 am

Perucho21 wrote:Bill curious question

How is it that we can afford to offer PSG up to 180m for Mbappe? As you stated there didn't seem to be no funds available for any signings. Doesn't seem like the case here. Maybe we aren't as broke as many seem to think that we are during these troubled times


We have a net cash position of circa 200M€ after raising capital from sales and reducing debt over the past season to circa 50M€

The only reason we haven’t gone bogus with the transfers yet is because the club is understanbly reticient in raising debt for transfers during the pandemic, due to lack of visibility over this season’s revenues, and we also have a few promising young players Vinicius, Kubo (have high hopes for him, kid is too technical and a gold mine considering the Asian market), Miguel, Arribas, Blanco and some that are even younger in the ranks such as Israel Salazar (CF) and David De la Vibora (LB). The Mbappe deal will be strictly a cash deal, if it goes as planned.
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Post by futbol_bill Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:48 pm

Congratulations Val. You are the first of younger generation I have seen to read and understand club finances!
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Post by sportsczy Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:52 pm

So Mbappe was on the team called for tomorrow against Reims: https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Ligue-1-kylian-mbappe-dans-le-groupe-du-psg-pour-le-deplacement-a-reims/1281218

If he starts the game... then I think this deal is in trouble for Madrid.

Pure gut feeling... I think it will take 220 mil for PSG to sell.  And I also feel that Madrid might pay it.

For those who say Madrid should wait and get him for free:
- He won't be free. Per proper journalists in France, he would ask for a minimum 125 mil signing bonus. That's basically the transfer fee required
- There would be competition for his services by many other teams
- He may change his mind
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Post by Perucho21 Sat Aug 28, 2021 7:21 pm

Yeah, I rather much sign him now. I have no worries over our finances in the future.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sun Aug 29, 2021 1:00 pm

sportsczy wrote:If he starts the game... then I think this deal is in trouble for Madrid.

Except for Le Parisien, no other news outlet has confirmed yet that the second offer has been rejected.

PSG is certainly acting strange here, and their silence doesn't bode well.

The deal could still go through, but I'm starting to believe that they are trying to drag things out until the very last second of the transfer window and then get out of it De Gea style.

I'm saying this because if they were truly preparing for life after Mbappé, don't you think there would be countless rumors linking them to potential replacements? There was one rumor linking them to Richarlison and then nothing. Dead silence.

I feel they are not even trying to find a replacement and that's because they have no intention of letting him go now.

There's close to 48 hours left in the transfer window. I guess we will get our answer very soon.
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Post by sportsczy Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:19 pm

The 2nd offer wasn't rejected or countered (which is what Madrid hoped).  Discussions are being held between intermediaries of the clubs, not directly (per French media, not me just to be clear).

Let's see if Mbappe is in the starting 11 later today.  If he is, then everyone here should expect him to likely not come.

I think the offer came too late from Madrid.  It makes common sense that, given PSG doesn't care one bit about money, that they would want to replace Mbappe before letting him go.  There may not have been enough time for PSG to secure a replacement.  Remember, Icardi is injured.  They don't have any other central strikers.
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Post by FennecFox7 Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:39 pm

Putting all our eggs in one basket and not fixing a couple holes in the team is going to bite us in the ass

@hala, apologize right now if you said gabby Jesus would’ve been a poor buy as a winger, he’s just benched Mahrez and Sterling
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Post by sportsczy Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:02 pm

Mbappe in the starting 11.

I don't think this transfer happens.
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Post by Perucho21 Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:28 pm

On his way. Just left Perez's office.
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Post by titosantill Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:22 am

im opening up to this happening just a lil bit, i feel at this point he must feel psg cant give him the project he wants. but they can give him money, which is also a fantastic bargaining chip.
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Post by Perucho21 Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:14 am

https://twitter.com/carrusel/status/1502781080985915393?s=20&t=PM8gDf_4_-1lGtrH6AFcLg

In case anyone needed to be sure. This is the Roman Molina guy tier 1 source saying Mbappe is not going to renew for sure.

Also says Poch AL Khelafi and Leonardo will be fired.

We really did a number on them didn't we
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:15 am

Barca should give us the guard of honour at the next clasico
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