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Post by Arquitecto Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:49 pm

Still waiting on Sport's sources on Benz whilst he is reporting why Mbappe not liking Manchego will prevent him from going to Real Madrid

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Post by FennecFox7 Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:08 pm

Not liking manchego is a crime against humanity.

Benzema is basically immobile and can’t play too many games in a row. He’s pretty strong physically though, and that’s the last thing to go for athletes (physical strength). Would be interesting to see him in Serie A.
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Post by sportsczy Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:16 pm

Biggest issue is that Benzema is making 100 million euros per season lol. More likely, he will move to another club in Saudi. His problem is with Marcelo Gallardo, the manager... not the country or league.
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Post by Warrior Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:52 pm

More accurately, Al Ittihad's management and fans have a problem with Benzema
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Post by sportsczy Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:20 am

Warrior wrote:More accurately, Al Ittihad's management and fans have a problem with Benzema

Both ways. His stats are decent frankly: 12 goals and 5 assists in 20 games. He's had back problems since late November and missed a game on Dec 7 because of it. He keeps playing but has gotten no cover from the manager (or management). That's what is upsetting him.

It will settle down. He'll just move to another club. There are a few in Saudi league willing to take on his wages.

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Post by FennecFox7 Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:39 am

100mil in a season.. I’d say he already won in that regard
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Post by The Madrid One Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:23 pm

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Saw this on Twitter, very interesting numbers.  

In the French NT:

Henry: 123 apps, 52 goals 30 assists.

Benzema: 97 apps, 37 goals 20 assists.

Benzema had more longevity than Henry but he also had to play second fiddle for most of his Madrid career, during which to be fair he had too many years that seem almost thrown away to the dump considering what we saw with his character and consistency 18-19 onwards. Missing out on the 2022 World Cup will be the ultimate what if of his career, but a Balon d'or, 5 European Cups, and the numbers he managed for none other than RM def place him as one of the all timers.

Also, plenty of those goals and assists from Henry come from MLS.
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Post by El Gunner Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:47 pm

gotta account for goals inflation as well...
also Henry was just another basic French left-winger before Wenger liberated him, Benzema started scoring goals as soon as he turned first-team pro
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Post by Vibe Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:56 pm

Benzema was a left winger for Lyon.
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Post by Clutch Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:46 pm

If Benz played in the epl the conversation would look a lot different

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Post by El Gunner Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:51 pm

^^ meaning he wouldn't have had as many goals and assists in a tougher league
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Post by futbol_bill Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:58 pm

Tougher league, lol. Your loss this week clearly demonstrates that top teams in other leagues are better than EPL teams other than your top three and for most of Benz’s years, La liga was rated better than EPL.
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Post by Myesyats Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:51 pm

El Gunner wrote:^^ meaning he wouldn't have had as many goals and assists in a tougher league

Strikers coming from Spain to the UK actually do really well

stop this nonsense.


Same narrative as Messi wouldnt "hack it in the Prem"... meanwhile he destroyed every English team in CL, they were always his favorite victims.
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Post by Arquitecto Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:55 am

I get Henry is the darling of Arsenal fans but Benzema in all facets has surpassed him in career legacy a while ago and its not even close.

Stop.
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Post by Clutch Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:39 am

El Gunner wrote:^^ meaning he wouldn't have had as many goals and assists in a tougher league
Sure. How'd aguero do in the epl again? How about Torres before his injury? Oh and I wouldn't be surprised if morata is a top 3 striker for Chelsea since Drogba left Laughing  Willing to bet Benzema has more goals scored against the top 6 than Saka too

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Post by Myesyats Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:52 am

Arquitecto wrote:I get Henry is the darling of Arsenal fans but Benzema in all facets has surpassed him in career legacy a while ago and its not even close.

Stop.

Is Benzema any better than Ollie Watkins? Is Messi better than Saka or Salah? Find out on the next episode of, "the delusions of the English premier league"
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Post by El Gunner Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:00 am

Arquitecto wrote:I get Henry is the darling of Arsenal fans but Benzema in all facets has surpassed him in career legacy a while ago and its not even close.

Stop.

this forum keeps on losing credibility year after year just because people wanna troll me
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Post by Myesyats Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:39 am

El Gunner wrote:^^ meaning he wouldn't have had as many goals and assists in a tougher league

Let the record show that Henry had 1g/a per 83 minutes in Prem vs 1g/a per 103 minutes in La Liga.


The conclusion draws itself, its harder to score in Spain.
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Post by El Gunner Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:08 am

Henry peaked from 2002 to 2006
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Post by titosantill Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:05 pm

Henry's the greatest French striker ever (post 1970s).
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Post by Myesyats Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:29 pm

El Gunner wrote:Henry peaked from 2002 to 2006

Are there any stats that back up the claim that it's harder to score in the premier league?

I think that facts say otherwise, also because there are more goals scored in Premier League on average across all teams.

There many such claims that are purported as if they were set in stone facts, which is quite disingenious.
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:30 pm

I think Liverpool have made a mockery out of this tough league nonsense by running over every tream with guys they've picked up from schools across Liverpool to cover their vast injury absences.

Benzema's favourite victims after Valencia are the EPL clubs lol
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Post by Arquitecto Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:44 pm

The league v league use of comparison is just plain lazy as the disparity between the top 3-4 leagues is just not high enough to grade the ability of a player especially given EPL is not necessarily known for their defenses but their intensity and variety of systems. This includes how one league was at a certain time in comparison to the rest; for at Henry's prime EPL simply was nowhere near the top league.

Conclusion is in pure skill Henry had it above Benz given he would chaos utter chaos in the box and danced through players but Benzema was a complete package who simply has just accomplished more over the course of his career. Henry suffered from being a lost winger earlier on then sacrificed being on the left in his Barça time so before concluding who is better we need to establish who's better at what exactly:

But overall Benzema is the more accomplished player thats not even a doubt.
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Post by El Gunner Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:45 pm

define accomplished? remember we all know Henry should have won the Ballon D'or over Nedved

Henry has the bigger legacy, fanbase and reputation in football culture. Widely considered the best player of all time to ever play in the best and most marketable league in the world.
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Post by Myesyats Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:13 pm

Benzema doesn't have marketability and a large fanbase because he's a sleazy raypist, you shouldn't judge players in terms of marketability anyway.

Better to argue facts rather than gut feelings and non-arguments.
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Post by El Gunner Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:18 pm

imagine hyping a sleazy raypist then
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