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Post by Gil Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:40 pm

Fair play.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:42 pm

Apart from Pogba, he's Frances best CM ffs.

Don't judge him for goals. banana




But nah, you're right. He shouldn't be handed his place.
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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:43 pm

he has gotten so many chances by both Madrid and France and ended up being booed by both sets of fans

I have never seen any top player who has been treated as favourable as this guy
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:44 pm

Frankly don't see why he should start with Toulalan in the team.
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Post by Gil Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:46 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:he has gotten so many chances by both Madrid and France and ended up being booed by both sets of fans

I have never seen any top player who has been treated as favourable as this guy
The worst is people keep defending him, several few even go as far as to blame Ronaldo for his ineffectiveness in front of goal.

One of the biggest waste of talent you'll ever see.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:46 pm

Gil wrote:I don't care if I end up jinxing it this guy needs to be benched regardless of tonight's result. Think the last time he's scored for France has to be in 2011 or something.

Start Giroud, Remy or Gignac.

One of the most frustrating players I've seen.
Leave my rapist alone ffs.
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Post by Kaladin Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:47 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Frankly don't see why he should start with Kos in the team.
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Post by Firenze Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:48 pm

Giroud >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Giroud - Remy pls
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:49 pm

i have said it long ago, he should consider retiring from NT because he sucks for them, he is a disgrace. he is wasting everyon's time, and deschamps finally got the balls to bench him
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Post by Onyx Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:53 pm

Except Benzema isn't ineffective for Real Madrid. He scores goals.

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Post by djfawnz Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:24 pm

u guys talk so much crap. Benzema is class.....
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Post by REWB Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:43 pm

benzema needs to come to arsenal to rejuvenate his career.
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Post by sportsczy Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:50 pm

Sissoko/Guilavogui double pivot Laughing They make Khedira look like Pele in the final 1/3.  Since opposition doesn't have to worry about mids being a threat, they just pack the box with 4 defenders and the mids drop into the box too if they have to help wide.  There's just no threat from that mid... when you face that, you need muscle CFs that you rain crosses into.  Of course, Evra and Sagna couldn't cross either Laughing

Giroud missed a sitter and another ball he had to control to go one-on-one at the keeper in the end.  Should have won this.

Even Ribery was average.  They just keyed on the stars and dared that midfield to make a difference.  Happens every freakin time.

Varane, Pogba, Matuidi, Cabaye, Capoue, etc. were all out.  That'll maake a big difference.

But there's no point playing Benz against PTB teams when you're playing 2 DMs yourself lol.
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Post by Grooverider Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:54 pm

Gil wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:he has gotten so many chances by both Madrid and France and ended up being booed by both sets of fans

I have never seen any top player who has been treated as favourable as this guy
The worst is people keep defending him, several few even go as far as to blame Ronaldo for his ineffectiveness in front of goal.

One of the biggest waste of talent you'll ever see.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:55 pm

If you have a midfield like that then you need one a striker who can drop deep and create chances (Benzema) and secondly one who will stretch defences, run in behind and make intelligent movement. ( does this guy exist? )



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Post by sportsczy Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:56 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:i have said it long ago, he should consider retiring from NT because he sucks for them, he is a disgrace. he is wasting everyon's time, and deschamps finally got the balls to bench him
Of course, you said the same thing about Ribery last summer when he was on 3 years without a goal... and then i remember you laughing at Koscielny starting about a year ago.

I'm sure you'll do a 180 as soon as the wind shifts. Talent always rises... i never doubt players with great talent who are young and perform well at club. Midfield play is always important, but even moreso on NT where players aren't used to playing with each other. Bad midfield = destined to fail.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:57 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:If you have a midfield like that then you need one a striker who can drop deep and create chances (Benzema) and secondly one who will stretch defences, run in behind and make intelligent movement. ( does this guy exist? )



Higuain? hmm

Mou's greatest crime is that he never played these two guys together. Taylor-made for a striker partnership.
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Post by Grooverider Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:01 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:If you have a midfield like that then you need one a striker who can drop deep and create chances (Benzema) and secondly one who will stretch defences, run in behind and make intelligent movement. ( does this guy exist? )



Higuain? hmm

Mou's greatest crime is that he never played these two guys together. Taylor-made for a striker partnership.
I like and actually rate Higuain, why Real sold him and kept Benz is beyond me
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Post by sportsczy Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:01 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:If you have a midfield like that then you need one a striker who can drop deep and create chances (Benzema) and secondly one who will stretch defences, run in behind and make intelligent movement. ( does this guy exist? )



 I agree you need a fast CF to challenge the back 4 so that there's space in between.  But the problem is that Ribery and Valbuena really don't attack the box hardly ever... they like to either go wide or play in the 10 area.  So Benz dropping deep isn't even possible because there's nobody running past him.

Fastest CF prospects out there are Lacazette, Benzia and Martial.  But they're 2 years away from arriving at least.  In the meantime, i think that you need to pair Pogba with Grenier (injured too) in the middle so you create a threat from that area.  That'll open up space too.


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Post by sportsczy Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:02 pm

Grooverider wrote:
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Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:If you have a midfield like that then you need one a striker who can drop deep and create chances (Benzema) and secondly one who will stretch defences, run in behind and make intelligent movement. ( does this guy exist? )



Higuain? hmm

Mou's greatest crime is that he never played these two guys together. Taylor-made for a striker partnership.
I like and actually rate Higuain, why Real sold him and kept Benz is beyond me
He outperformed him every year for the past 3 years straight... that's why.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:07 pm

sportsczy wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:If you have a midfield like that then you need one a striker who can drop deep and create chances (Benzema) and secondly one who will stretch defences, run in behind and make intelligent movement. ( does this guy exist? )



 I agree you need a fast CF to challenge the back 4 so that there's space in between.  But the problem is that Ribery and Valbuena really don't attack the box hardly ever... they like to either go wide or play in the 10 area.  So Benz dropping deep isn't even possible because there's nobody running past him.

Fastest CF prospects out there are Lacazette, Benzia and Martial.  But they're 2 years away from arriving at least.  In the meantime, i think that you need to pair Pogba with Grenier (injured too) in the middle so you create a thread from that area.  That'll open up space too.
Well i agree with that as well, i have said before that Ribery and Valbuena isn't good for the balance of the team.

Its one or the other, but then the question remains is there anyone to play on the opposite flank to balance it out to allow this to work?

If you have a lack of creativity, its very important there is width in the team and your two strikers can link play and stretch defences.

At least the defence is good...
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Post by REWB Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:12 pm

sportsczy wrote:Sissoko/Guilavogui double pivot Laughing They make Khedira look like Pele in the final 1/3.  Since opposition doesn't have to worry about mids being a threat, they just pack the box with 4 defenders and the mids drop into the box too if they have to help wide.  There's just no threat from that mid... when you face that, you need muscle CFs that you rain crosses into.  Of course, Evra and Sagna couldn't cross either Laughing

Giroud missed a sitter and another ball he had to control to go one-on-one at the keeper in the end.  Should have won this.

Even Ribery was average.  They just keyed on the stars and dared that midfield to make a difference.  Happens every freakin time.

Varane, Pogba, Matuidi, Cabaye, Capoue, etc. were all out.  That'll maake a big difference.

But there's no point playing Benz against PTB teams when you're playing 2 DMs yourself lol.

lool WOW how far France have fallen.
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Post by sportsczy Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:17 pm

You think France have fallen because they rely on the talents of Pogba, Varane, Matuidi, etc.? Matuidi is the guy that recovers every ball tirelessly and nobody talks about... but it allows Ribery to just stay on the attack and not worry about anything. Pogba and Varane are two of the best in the world at their positions. Varane allows Koscielny to be more aggressive and Pogba allows pretty much everything Laughing
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Post by Mamad Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:17 pm

Benzema is great. France NT sucks.
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Post by sportsczy Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:18 pm

Griezmann is almost perfect to play opposite Ribery, but he's suspended for a few more months...
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