Re: Karim Benzema - BIG Ballon d'Or 2022 campaign

by Valkyrja Wed Jun 07, 2023 2:22 pm

"Laughable", again rofl

by futbol_bill Wed Jun 07, 2023 2:53 pm

I would rank Rudd Van Nistelrooy ahead of Suarez.

by futbol_bill Wed Jun 07, 2023 3:05 pm

There is so much talk about how Benz stacks up against the best strikers of all time! He has been great no doubt, but in praising him, that is putting down a lot of legends. What Benz achieved in past 4 or 5 years is astounding. What I will agree with is that Benz is the greatest 30+ striker ever, especially considering that most players start their decline and retirement at age 30.

by sportsczy Wed Jun 07, 2023 3:21 pm

Ibrahimovic is the best striker since R9 period. To me, Messi, Ronaldo and Ibrahimovic were the phenoms of the generation that just retired in terms of strikers.

by El Gunner Wed Jun 07, 2023 4:57 pm

futbol_bill wrote:I would rank Rudd Van Nistelrooy ahead of Suarez.

there is absolutely no metric that supports this

by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jun 07, 2023 5:44 pm

El Gunner wrote:
futbol_bill wrote:I would rank Rudd Van Nistelrooy ahead of Suarez.

there is absolutely no metric that supports this

Honestly one of bill's worst posts in the history of GL

by BarcaLearning Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:11 pm

Problem I have with Ibra is his relative lack of pace n as he showed at Barca, he stalls the play due to him wanting to control the ball at feet. Dunno if anything similar but I think Sport or Cas mentioned the same issue with Neymar at PSG? Razz

Hes also not a nimbo goal poacher type. As a result he doesnt fit every team n isnt perfect of course, he has his many insane attributes, but this one or two weakness definitely hes just below the absolutely best tier for me...

by El Gunner Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:33 pm

agree BL

by sportsczy Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:13 pm

Ibra wasn't playing in his best position at Barca... as a 9. Pep wanted him to vacate the space and allow Messi to get into scoring positions. That was the beef. And that's on Pep for wanting to use him in a ridiculous way. That's like putting Haaland wide and outside the box.

Ibra is undoubtedly the best striker since R9. It's not even close. I remember about 7-10 years ago arguing with Zealous about Benz and Higuain...we bother agreed that we'd sell both in a HEARTBEAT to sign Ibra. It wasn't even a question.

by El Gunner Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:30 pm

then why didn't Flo pull the trigger on Ibra if he was so GOATed Laughing

by sportsczy Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:59 pm

Because he wouldn't co-exist with Ronaldo.

He also had a lot of beef with Dutch players during his time at Ajax. Before CR, we had Robben, Sneijder, Van der Vaart (they hate each other lol), etc. I think Ibra had issues with literally all of them.

Juve, Milan and Inter were not worse destinations than Madrid or Barca at the time... well maybe Juve because of the scandals; but not the other two. Arguably better actually.

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