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Post by McLewis Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:24 am

Ehh that got debunked by the AP already:

Biden was speaking to George Lopez in widely shared video

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:29 am

4 more years of George Lopez sounds right to you? scratch

4 more years of George Bush sounds far more likely.

The AP (and all those other papers that published "fact checks") are posting politically motivated fake news, again. It's important to be skeptical of all sources.
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Post by Young Kaz Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:50 am

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my time on this forum might come to an end soon too like Dom a year ago


Great, maybe you can take Betty with you as well!


Heaven forbid somebody disagrees with your royal whiteness.

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Post by Young Kaz Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:53 am

and im sorry,


Joe Rogan is a guy who called a movie theater full of African Americans, and i quote, Planet of the fucking apes.

When hearing about a mulatto, a mixed black and white person, he said and I quote:

"White mind with a black body....powerful combination"

Hes a balding fraud
A white supremacist


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Post by McLewis Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:54 am

That's not what I heard in that video tbh. Biden clearly took a pause and said George. I'm not going to say he didn't look off. He surely did, but the way I interpret that video, it looks like Biden loses his train of thought and says "George", referring to the host. Either way, it wasn't a good look from him at all.

Here's how I couch this though - Will it sway undecided voters who have not voted yet? I truly don't think so.
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Post by FennecFox7 Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:06 am

Freedom of speech is freedom of speech. We are all adults. If you want to believe in the shit alex Jones spews then that’s on you and no one else.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:09 am

McLewis wrote:That's not what I heard in that video tbh. Biden clearly took a pause and said George. I'm not going to say he didn't look off. He surely did, but the way I interpret that video, it looks like Biden loses his train of thought and says "George", referring to the host. Either way, it wasn't a good look from him at all.

Here's how I couch this though - Will it sway undecided voters who have not voted yet? I truly don't think so.


Well, no, I don't think it will impact the election nor should it. But I think we want to put Biden under an appropriate amount of scrutiny, especially if he ends up being a president with congressional support in both chambers (as is currently forecasted). We can't look the other way because it's politically inconvenient or let him off the hook.
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Post by CBarca Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:53 am

I mean, I think it's a gaffe, but surely we are used to this by now? Who gives a shit?

Biden has a speech impediment and does get flustered at times. He makes gaffes. This isn't half bad as that weird rambling about his leg hairs lmao. Shortly after he says George he immediately returns the train of thought back to what he meant to say: Trump.

Regardless, the take that Biden is unwell mentally is fuckin tiring. While it's a low bar, he destroyed Trump twice and looked fairly sharp doing it. If he has any issues, wouldn't it show on a nationally televised debate against one of the more frustrating people to debate on this planet?

Ultimately, yes, it would be nice to have another great speaker like Obama in the white house instead of someone sometimes gaffe prone like W was. But it doesn't really say anything about his ability. Quite frankly, as much as people made fun of him for it, W's gaffes didn't say anything about HIS ability either.
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Post by CBarca Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:58 am

And to be fair, AP doesn't say that he was referring to George Lopez. It simply says that there wasn't the context given when the video was being shared.

Does the context mean much? Maybe not. However, it helps explain where Biden may have got the name "George" in his head. For that reason, maybe the context is illuminating. Thank you AP
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Post by FennecFox7 Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:27 am

Tbh, the whole “Biden is mentally not okay” is so played out. As CBarca said, i watched those debates, trump if anyone didn’t look well and was constantly hurling insults. But to the American public it makes him look “alpha”, since the average American has about 3 brain cells when it comes to politics
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Post by FennecFox7 Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:28 am

And to add to that trump lies... all the time. The media has been unfair to him but he’s lying ALL THE TIME, he can’t help himself, I don’t trust a word out of his mouth.
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Post by VivaStPauli Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:05 am

How has the media been unfair to him?
He lies all the time, has committed a litany of sexual assaults, and is bankrupt; if anything the press is still being kind.
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Post by El Gunner Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:07 am

Myesyats wrote:Objectively speaking Kanye is way crazier than the average person. Rarely ever does he make sense from what I've seen of him especially during his "campaign" and the infamous rally where he implied that black people were content with being enslaved and remained in that state for so long by choice. Running as a republican as a Black individual also speaks for itself, as well as embracing Trump.

yeah you lot are a lost cause, the fact that you guys are speaking with so much inaccuracy and tainted perception of the man says a lot. He isn't being backed by the Republicans, he is running independently.

The fact that i give my most pure, authentic and open-hearted thorough views on this message board and i get labelled as a "lunatic"/"unstable" by some of you is disheartening to me and it says a lot about you lot that are so quick to close-mindedly label and dismiss.

meanwhile Kanye is improving people's lives as we speak, taking the initiative and creating action, im so happy for him and i'll continue to happily stan. You can call him or me crazy when he is involved in actual dark/evil rumours and newscycles such as bribing, voter manipulation, sex trafficking, etc etc etc like so many other politicians that you lot gladly and openly talk about and go vote for. But he is not. "The worst" he has apparently done is having an eccentric personality, and then a panic attack/emotional meltdown in 2016 because a lot was going wrong in his life at that the time and the media couldn't be any happier to use that against him and taint his image because of that, and they continue to do so by taking everything he says out of context and unfortunately there are so many closed-minded people out there (some of you on here) that eat that shit up for sweet cakes without actually listening and researching for yourselves with an open mind and heart what the man is actually saying and doing.

The only downside is it's clear to see he is neglecting the quality of his music at the moment which is a bit sad as a fan of his music genuity, but he has leveled up and aspired to greater things than music so not even mad at all.
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Post by El Gunner Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:14 am

FennecFox7 wrote:Freedom of speech is freedom of speech. We are all adults. If you want to believe in the shit alex Jones spews then that’s on you and no one else.

thank you

i don't even support or watch Alex Jones. Sure i've heard about him because of the controversy, but who the fuck cares, I didn't bring him up and said i support him. There's millions of people out there that spew conspiracy stuff on the daily, millions of people that sit in front of their screens eat up the half-stories and half-truths that their 1 or 2 or 3 newscycle channels rotates on the daily. And yet??

but just because i wanted to share what Kanye was actually doing and standing for with you guys on here. The pitchforks and closed-mindedness couldn't come out any quicker by everyone starting to attack Joe Rogan and his podcast, and then Alex Jones out of nowhere Laughing

i said nothing about Rogan and Jones, i was here to promote my boy Kanye Heart
just think about that Laughing such a shame that the human mind is so easily manipulated
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Post by El Gunner Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:26 am

Young Kaz wrote:
futbol_bill wrote:
El Gunner wrote:

my time on this forum might come to an end soon too like Dom a year ago


Great, maybe you can take Betty with you as well!


Heaven forbid somebody disagrees with your royal whiteness.

son rofl and don't forget he is a geriatric too
it completely reeks in here

it's not the 60s anymore Bill, im sorry your time is up
The world is evolving, the children of the future are being born every day
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Post by rincon Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:05 am

ElG, you call us close minded when no one here reacts as strongly to an opposing opinion as you do. Other than Betty, but that's a lost case. You say we are quick to label when I (and most) haven't called you anything, but you call me (and others) soulless, mindless, hateful, dumbass, etc whenever you disagree.

Chill.

And all this because I posted a hilarious video someone made about Kanye West of all people. I lost it when he randomly stopped to say a prayer in the middle of the interview Laughing

He is a clown. As I said before, I regularly listen to the podcast, listened to the first 20 minutes or so when the episode came out. That was enough. Kanye's disjointed array of bullshit is intolerable after a while.

Kanye: "I was chosen by God to be the leader of the free world"
Rogan: "so what would you do as president? What would you do differently?"
Kanye: "..."

Then starts rambling about something else.

At one point he said he wanted to make mega churches of hundreds of thousands of people where he preaches, and then proceeded to make the sound effects and chants Laughing

Another highlight was him describing how he yelled at an engineer for suggesting the use of solar power because (paraphrasing) "that comes from what Edison did when he screwed over Tesla". Wat. How is that even related? He immediately follows it with "I don't know physics" Laughing

That was within about 1/10th of the interview.

He is basically an edgy teenager that gets too much attention and too much enabling. Hope he figures out his mental health.
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Post by El Gunner Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:24 am

i only respond like that when people attack and label me first. Pls go back and watch who threw around labels first, it was you, calling someone who is making REAL CHANGE a "lunatic"

you are so happy to list every single thing you find judgemental about what he did in that interview, and yet no praise for any of the positive things he is doing. Only other person who has praised it on here is McLewis, so kudos to you McL, you actually listen and empathise. I mean that's always you, so not really surprising, unlike others Laughing

so yea i suppose rincon and others are just built differently, but i'll keep faith for you lot, even if i end up leaving the forum. Clarity is a beautiful and magical and spiritual thing, it hits you out of nowhere.

that video is only hilarious to you because you are one of the many media-slaves who subscribes to the notion of "Coonye" it's so obvious you hear "Kanye" and you instantly look for signs of "oh what craziness did he get up to this time" Check your mental setup mate, because on the wrong settings everything your senses perceive is a lie. That's the level of acuteness of propaganda and manipulation of the world we live in.
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Post by Pedram Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:36 am

Threatening to leave the forum because people don't share your opinion on something is childish EL G.

btw Kanye is a lunatic who shouldn't be taken seriously.
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Post by El Gunner Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:47 am

try being one of the most thorough and open-minded posters on this forum (there are a few more, but only a very few, im not saying im the only one), but all of that only to get called "unstable" instead of people actually really listening to and reading into what you are saying

you will respond in the same manner

i learn so much from you guys as well that's why i remain active in the life and politics sections, because i want to add my opinion too and hope i can also give you guys information to learn from. Instead some of you lack reflectivity and listening qualities. And when most people on here merely paint you in as this picture of someone that's "unstable" instead of reading to understand, that rather quickly starts getting annoying.

i mean there's trolling. I troll too a lot of the time. Hell, just the other day Helmer called me some of the most serious stuff and he even brought my family and friends into it. But i only saw that as trolling because i could read into the context of our jabs and banter between each other. But then there's a time when politics becomes a serious matter and it affects the world and our lives. And just downright dismissing someone by calling them "unstable" because the wording comes with many serious connotations and implications

that's where i draw the fucking line.
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Post by El Gunner Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:51 am

Pedram wrote:Threatening to leave the forum because people don't share your opinion on something is childish EL G.

it's not a threat as much as further clarity because now i'm considering it, and just so that you guys (the ones that would actually care about my whereabouts) can know what happened and what was the reason if i just suddenly stopped posting
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Post by Warrior Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:12 pm

Defending Kenny West is a weird hill to die on. You guys believe he is even sincere ? I don't

Mental illness is the new trend to receive attention, and also him being all deep and religious seems more an attempt to save his public image. He has dozen facets to his personality yet zero cohesion between them, hard for me to give him any credibility.

This change nothing to his musical talent where he is a pioneer and some may say a genius. Oh well. I like listening to the Nuge and his awesome riffs, outside of music he is a numpty who thinks Trump is god's messenger.

About El G just know i'll miss you Sad but if you feel the forum holds you back or waste your time, fair enough. Aren't you the youngest member ? You emancipated very fast these last 1-2 years and while people respect that, sometimes they will challenge you. Allow it imo.
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Post by Myesyats Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:27 pm

Young Kaz wrote:
futbol_bill wrote:
El Gunner wrote:

my time on this forum might come to an end soon too like Dom a year ago


Great, maybe you can take Betty with you as well!


Heaven forbid somebody disagrees with your royal whiteness.

Your insecurity must be eating you alive everyday lol

Must hate yourself for being asian rofl
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:55 pm

Myesyats wrote:
Young Kaz wrote:
futbol_bill wrote:

Great, maybe you can take Betty with you as well!


Heaven forbid somebody disagrees with your royal whiteness.

Your insecurity must be eating you alive everyday lol

Must hate yourself for being asian rofl



Exactly what I thought. Kaz is interesting but the echos to Elliot Rodgers who's inferiority complex to the white race and hating his own reminds me of this.

I fail to see how bringing up Bill's race was even remotely relevant.
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Post by FennecFox7 Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:51 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:How has the media been unfair to him?
He lies all the time, has committed a litany of sexual assaults, and is bankrupt; if anything the press is still being kind.


The press in the US has reported all of these things plus things that aren’t true.

Let me ask you this, does it really help someone’s case when the supposedly “good” side makes up lies about trump or twists the truth. Nope, all it does is hurt us and convince more numbnuts to vote for the guy.

He WANTS people like you to be distracted by the bullshit. He doesn’t want people looking at his Russian dealings or tax returns (which exposes the whole system and how all the Wall Street crooks and billionaires cheat the system).
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Post by futbol_bill Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:03 pm

Arquitecto wrote:
Myesyats wrote:
Young Kaz wrote:

Heaven forbid somebody disagrees with your royal whiteness.

Your insecurity must be eating you alive everyday lol

Must hate yourself for being asian rofl



Exactly what I thought. Kaz is interesting but the echos to Elliot Rodgers who's inferiority complex to the white race and hating his own reminds me of this.

I fail to see how bringing up Bill's race was even remotely relevant.


One brings up my race and the other my age, as if that has anything to do with my agreeing for them to leave this forum!

I have not thrown out any of the insults that El gunner says have been hurled his way (although I would agree with them), in fact i seldom even post to any of their multiple rambling bs political posts. I find both of them to be immature naive kids easily adapting political propaganda. Much like Trump’s army of supporters. El gunner threatening to leave just because people don’t agree with him is just the latest indication of immaturity.
It’s the same as MTO, another kid who hit puberty, who left leaving an incoherent audio message that indicated how badly his mind was messed up.
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:18 pm

You as a senior will understand the transitions one goes through in life. I generally agree and don't agree with EG but simply remain passive to them because I maintain it is a transitory phase and he will settle into something more nuanced into what will be his late-twenties. This isn't the condescending approach due to seniority but a mere prediction.


Many here still believe I hold my draconian views that I did when I posted more openly in 2011-2014 etc but a lot of what I articulated was born out of ignorance and lack of experience. That changed fast until I stopped being an idiot.



MTO on the other hand is just plain low-IQ. I will never stop laughing at his voice note...That reminds me..Time to listen again.
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