The Official WWE Thread - Part 34

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Post by S Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:48 pm

The Eddie-Punk segment was good but the entire buildup itself looked forced, all because Punk needed an opponent at Full Gear. Maybe they should've taken further than they did to give the feud more meaning.

Besides many people, especially casuals hardly know their backstory to even connect with the segment.

Whereas you have Punk and MJF throwing jabs at each other making WWE references which people could easily connect with and understand. The reaction they got from the crowd tells you everything.

Punk had the edge in this segment but it was really impressive to see MJF hold his own and go toe to toe with Punk. The promo could've gone on for like 30 minutes and I would still be very much engaged. It was that entertaining.

But that said, MJF is right. Punk really is AEW's Cena atm. It's like he's come full circle. Watch him get boo'd out of the building if he buries MJF in the ring.

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Post by Onyx Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:28 pm

Punk's at his best as an anti-authority rebel who's fighting against the system and breaking the fourth wall. Can't really do that when he's the top dog in a company that ticks all of his boxes and gives him everything he wants. I'm sure he's well aware of it too, which is why he's playing up the Cena role he's found himself in.

Similarly, Bryan's underdog persona doesn't work in AEW when most of the top guys in the company are around his size. And without the YES movement, he had nothing going for him character wise, he was living off of his WWE fame. Turning heel was a good move.

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Post by El Gunner Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:22 pm

@S wrote:But that said, MJF is right. Punk really is AEW's Cena atm. It's like he's come full circle. Watch him get boo'd out of the building if he buries MJF in the ring.
perfect time to hand Punk his first AEW loss then. Make it a good old solid feud. First match, an inconclusive outcome. Second one a controversial MJF win. Third one a clear Punk slobberknocker win.
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Post by Jay29 Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:06 pm

MJF should go over imo.

He needs a big time win to push him into the main event. With Omega and Moxley out for the foreseeable future, Hangman will need a good heel to face.

I expect Hangman won't be dropping the belt anytime soon and will beat Danielson, so he'll need opponents after that.

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Post by M99 Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:25 pm

Before MJF-Punk happened, this was my favorite promo in AEW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_x3TNEN51s

Can't wait for Moxley to come back and square up against Punk. It will be legendary.
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Post by El Gunner Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:29 pm

enjoying this Danielson heel version
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Post by Casciavit Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:13 am

That flaming table spot was so stupid
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Post by M99 Fri Dec 03, 2021 8:35 am

Terrible promo by MJF this week. Did he run out of material? Also AEW had Sting, Bryan and Punk wrestle and they still did their lowest rating in seven months since they were wrestling jobbers. They need to stop booking these nothing matches and do something significant with their stars.
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Post by Onyx Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:47 pm

I remember saying a few years ago how if a new company formed, signed Punk, Bryan, Moxley, Jericho and JR as commentator and had a proper TV deal in place, they could compete with the WWE. I'm surprised that such a thing even happened.

They also have Sting, Christian, Matt Hardy and Big Show/Henry if needed. AEW's roster has way more star power compared to RAW/SD, but the booking's been subpar. I think the biggest issue they're catering to hardcore fans, rather than trying to draw in casuals. Catering to a bunch of fans who are going to watch no matter what has never made sense.

Tony Khan is close with Meltzer and wants a sports oriented 'realistic' product, problem is there's a ceiling to that. Right now it's basically a glorified indy fed with bells and whistles.


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Post by El Gunner Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:59 pm

or they could just be taking their time to bring up the lesser names first and build up their hype. Honour the guys who's been at the company longer and still keep getting the big names at the same time - it's a balancing act... if they go full on big names vs big names with the bookings now they'll just be seen as a company leeching off of stars that made their name at WWE
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Post by Onyx Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:55 pm

I'm sure they'll eventually do Punk vs Bryan, but even then I think it'll just be bog standard 'I'm the better wrestler' storyline, nothing outside of the box, won't bring more eyes to the product.

There's certainly some positives with AEW, like not being PG, allowing more creative freedom and being more gritty. Given the choice I'd rather watch Dynamite over RAW/SD, mostly because it's something different and fresh, not necessarily better or groundbreaking though.

The Punk/MJF promo has 3m views on youtube, almost 5-10x more than their average video. Once they start focusing more on promos and writing compelling storylines with larger than life characters, the show will easily trump anything WWE produces. Just think of all the possibilities with the likes of Punk, Bryan, Sting, MJF, Jericho, Christian, Moxley, Broken Matt, Hangman and potentially Bray if he signs.

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Post by M99 Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:38 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrP2WK3ggLI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw22ae9JYB4
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Post by El Gunner Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:12 pm

the 3-team tag match had a lot of fun moments! old age showing loads on Punk and Sting though, they both struggled with navigating the turnbuckle for jumps Laughing
That Sting splash to the outside on all 3 opponents was dope though when he finally got himself to the top rope
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Post by El Gunner Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:13 pm

also forgot what a brilliant heel commentator Taz can be Laughing
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:05 am

Taz is fantastic, to the point i genuinely wouldn't hate it if they made Schiavone a full time interview guy.
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Post by Onyx Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:02 pm

What a moment this was. :bow:


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Post by M99 Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:10 pm

Hilarious how NXT turned out to be AEW developmental. Undisputed Era, Andrade, Black, Ruby with Gargano, Keith Lee and Ember Moon probably joining soon. Thats literally most of the top guys from 2017-18 peak NXT. Just missing Ciampa and Strong lol.
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Post by Casciavit Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:20 am

Memes aside, Hook is actually the future of this business.
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