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Post by McLewis Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:36 pm

BarcaLearning wrote:Obviously eager to see if Mou can still do it with the second tier level club and players he has to work with nowadays Very Happy Already getting a relatively expensive buy considering its Roma? He demanding more buys as usual I suspect?


Well I don't think he's demanding buys, it's more the club recognizing that they need to give him as much as they can within financial reason. The Friedkins (the new owners) have been pretty generous with the cash they're moving into the club to help fund these transfers and contract extensions.

Mou holds the biggest cards here. He knows the club needs him more than he needs it. They will likely bend over backwards to give him what or who he wants to keep him happy and motivated.

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Post by rincon Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:02 am

Zaniolo comes back and scores a goal 400 days later, celebrating in tears.
https://streamable.com/pmpfc9

“Yeah, it seemed like the end of the world,”
“But I’m still here! Thank you all! I’m back.”

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Post by Guest Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:56 am

some very shrewd business by roma so far. well done ... i have them as top 4 team this season

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Post by Kick Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:09 am

McLewis wrote:

Frankly, I wasn't sure this one would get done. Pinto has done very well so far though.

On Abraham, I'm just not sure about him imo. I'm leery of any purchase with the price tag and wage we're paying Chelsea and him.

I consider this a significant risk, but we can't be afraid of that. High risks can yield high rewards.


Nah, don't worry.

Tammy is goals. Play him and he'll score.

He's got a lot to improve in other areas but one thing he'll do is score goals.

If Jose puts his faith in Tammy then you will have a fantastic player on your hands.
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Post by McLewis Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:36 am

Been almost a year since I posted in this thread. Interesting.

Jose has his own thread so I'm not really going to post much about him here. This will be more about the players themselves.

Last season, the club surpassed expectations by winning the inaugural Conference League title, a pivotal moment in the club's history for a number of reasons. The signing of Tammy Abraham and Rui Patricio, at opposite ends of the pitch, along with an absolute surge to prominence of Lorenzo Pellegrini and a welcome return of Nicolo Zaniolo, propelled Roma to this achievement. It's a small one from the perspectives of bigger clubs, but when there's been such a drought of silverware as the one Roma has suffered, you take anything you can get and you celebrate the fuck out of it. That's what we did.

Now for this season, Jose's 2nd and his 1st true summer with the club. I must say, it's been a good mercato thus far. We've signed:

- Mile Svilar from Benfica as Rui Patricio's backup
- Zeki Celik from Lille as competition for Rick Karsdorp at RB.
- Nemanja Matic from Man United to add experience to midfield.
- Gini Wijnaldum from PSG to add some dynamism to the midfield.
- Paulo Dybala from Juventus to add that star power up top.

Where I think Tiago Pinto has really done well is that we only paid a transfer fee for Celik. About 8m IIRC. Svilar, Matic and Dybala were all free transfers and Wijnaldum is a loan with PSG paying half his wages. That's excellent transfer work, especially if these signings pan out.

The other area where Pinto has done well is selling players.

We've raised just under 45m from the sales of:
Pau Lopez (Marseille)
Cengiz Under (Marseille)
Jordan Veretout (Marseille)
Robin Olsen (Aston Villa)
Alessandro Florenzi (Milan)
Riccardo Ciervo (Sassuolo)
Tommaso Milanese (Cremonese)

Addition to them, the wage bill has been further cleared by the free transfers of:
Daniel Fuzato (UD Ibiza)
Salvatore Pezzella (Triestina)
Stefano Greco (Potenza)
Henrikh Mkhitaryan (Inter)

Pinto wisely decided against permanently signing:

Borja Mayoral (Real Madrid)
Sergio Oliveira (FC Porto)
Ainsley Maitland-Niles (Arsenal)

Lastly, Bryan Reynolds was loaned out to Westerlo in Belgium and Davide Santon was released entirely.

And Pinto's not done yet.

On the outgoing front, Carles Perez is likely on his way to Celta Vigo, Justin Kluivert is looking set to join Fulham in the PL, both Riccardo Calafiori and Eldor Shomurodov are out of Mou's plans and are being shopped around, and there is still the matter of getting Amadou Diawara to move on though he's determined to stick out his contract, and has rejected all offers. He seems set to be the Juan Jesus of this generation.

On the incoming front, a CB is still needed with Eric Bailly (yuck) and Marc Bartra being touted as cover options though most Romanisti want to see Feyenoord's Marcos Senesi signed. Another fan favorite transfer target is Sassuolo's Davide Frattesi, a product of Roma's vaunted Primavera. As with Pellegrini, we're in pole position to sign him given that link. The unlikely alternative is Spurs midfielder Tanguy Ndombele, but not sure if that's going to happen. Up top, Andrea Belotti remains the favorite to be signed as vice-Tammy ahead of Ola Solbakken. So there are still some missing parts for Pinto to work through.

By and large, he's done excellent work.


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Post by Firenze Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:49 am

the Bailly disrespect

good post, thanks, I'd been following the incomings and thinking Roma were doing good business, wasnt really paying attention to the outgoings, seems like smart business all around. Very curious how Roma perform this season, for various reasons, but the starting 11 looks pretty strong to me. Hope you can seriously compete for CL spots, don't see any reason why not.
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Post by McLewis Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:10 am

My biggest problem with Bailly is his injury record. Dude can't stay fit and we've had enough of that with Smalling. I don't think Mou's going to be here long enough to wait around for Bailly to eventually get healthy (if that happens). I don't see how this makes sense beyond the fact that he's been coached by Mou before. Senesi is probably the better option.

And yeah CL spots should be the goal here. We'll have our hands full with the Europa League as I do think we're going to try and make a deep run there. I don't think we necessarily have to win it. A deep run and qualification of the CL would be a good season to me.
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Post by rincon Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:14 pm

Very exciting team that Roma is building. Maybe back to Sabatini levels when they had De Rossi, Nainggolan, Strootman, Salah, Alisson, Dzeko.

Dybala, Abraham, Spinazzola, Pellegrini, Zaniolo, Mancini, Patricio, Wijnaldum is hell of a core for Roma.
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Post by Lord Awesome Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:49 am

Yeah it aint bad with Dybala in as well as Wjinaldum. I wouldve wanted to keep Oliveira, Veretout, and Florenzi but now that we know Zaniolo is staying I think it would be solid enough for Roma to place higher than last year this season. Would've liked Berardi as well but the man doin't wanna leave Sassuolo.
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Post by McLewis Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:15 pm

Yeah we're never getting Berardi. I've never been high on him personally, but that's just something that's never going to happen. I was in that same boat with Belotti and still am until Friedkin flies him to Rome. That's the new PDF with this owner.

Dybala and Wijnaldum will rightly get the headlines, but I think the new signing that will make just as much of an impact will be Zeki Celik out on the right flank. I really think that's going to turn out to be an excellent piece of business from Pinto.

I can't think of a time where Roma have been this secure in the full back positions. It's been ages.
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Post by Arquitecto Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:51 pm

Straight up predicting Dybala to flop.

We all know his talent but this is a player with an incredible talent to create drama, create situations built around him and sulks when he does not get his way. The constant father-son drama between him and Max were something else. He isn't versatile the least bit in his role, isn't young anymore and of course injury prone.

Then you have Mourinho who cannot stand mental midgets like these and won't tolerate if Dybala gives anything less than his 100%. I know he will have his moments and somehow he has a legion of fangirls who will defend him no matter what, but I can't see this going well.


Roma overall on the other hand are by far the most interesting prospect to watch this season. Coming off that European win is a monkey off their back let alone the high of it. Mourinho now settled in and loved, an improved squad and a very experienced big game player in Wijnaldum will be what they need as they've lacked in that department for a while.

Roma though after being high on some crucial victories we know can collapse in their usual theatric fashion but genuinely hoping for their success and a José renaissance in Rome.
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Post by futbol_bill Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:05 pm

Just to throw a little salt on all this optimism!

Remember this is year 2 for Mourinho, the last chance for any real success. Next year, based on his historical record, will be his last!
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Post by McLewis Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:48 am

You know me. I'm about as even-keeled as can be when it comes to Roma.

There's always a 50/50 chance of this season being an unimaginable success or an absolute meme. It's what makes the club fun to support. We rarely get what we think we're gonna get with this team. I made my peace with that a long time ago.

It's all vibes, as the kids say these days.
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