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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:36 pm

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Mr Nick09 wrote:Blue Barrett I think that when you see Madrid capable of spending 180 mil for a player and yes I know it's just speculation for now, then I think if we really wanted Hazard we would have come for him. So there is a difference between being interested and making a statement like "this guy is our future and we are all in, we will pay whatever". That has never happened with hazard, but it did with the likes of CR, Kaka, etc...

So would you say that just because you weren't prepared to pay whatever it required and "this guy is our future" the whole deal you weren't interested in De Gea? You said it yourself some pages back, the reason everyone's moving so swift for Mbappe is because they're afraid someone else will get him. Madrid are literally the only club on the face of the planet who can tempt Hazard (or De Gea) away from their current clubs. If 18 year old Mbappe was killing it at United or Chelsea rather than Monaco, do you think Madrid would be about to spend this money on him? You know for sure it wouldn't be that easy if at all it was possible.
for de gea I think his valuation reached a point where our club said no we won't pay it, based on multiple factors, and keylor's performances are part of that. So for de gea we were not prepared to dit it and as mourinho so candidly said it, united opened the door for us to sign him, but we closed it ourselves.

For Chelsea and hazard I think it is the same because we don't have that desire to go after him regardless of the fee.

And I would argue that if he was playing for Chelsea or city, if it was that level of talent we would have still come after him. Obviously the size of clubs like the top 4 in England makes it harder, and as we did with Ronaldo it did not all happen in one summer but we still got our man. The most difficult thing is to turn the player imo and we have shown we know how to do that
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:50 pm

RealGunner wrote:Jose Mourinho says some clubs are paying "too much"and are creating a "very strange and out-of-control" market.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40721040


Classic Mourinho Laughing

Like when he complained that there's too many foreign managers in the prem Laughing
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Post by Kaladin Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:13 pm

Doc wrote:Who are those several clubs that snitched on Milan and are they Turin based?


I can tell you the clubs right now

Inter
Juve
Fiorentina
Napoli
Roma
Sassuolo
Atletico
Bayern
Dortmund
Spurs
Newcastle
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Post by Blue Barrett Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:04 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:
Blue Barrett wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:Blue Barrett I think that when you see Madrid capable of spending 180 mil for a player and yes I know it's just speculation for now, then I think if we really wanted Hazard we would have come for him. So there is a difference between being interested and making a statement like "this guy is our future and we are all in, we will pay whatever". That has never happened with hazard, but it did with the likes of CR, Kaka, etc...

So would you say that just because you weren't prepared to pay whatever it required and "this guy is our future" the whole deal you weren't interested in De Gea? You said it yourself some pages back, the reason everyone's moving so swift for Mbappe is because they're afraid someone else will get him. Madrid are literally the only club on the face of the planet who can tempt Hazard (or De Gea) away from their current clubs. If 18 year old Mbappe was killing it at United or Chelsea rather than Monaco, do you think Madrid would be about to spend this money on him? You know for sure it wouldn't be that easy if at all it was possible.
for de gea I think his valuation reached a point where our club said no we won't pay it, based on multiple factors, and keylor's performances are part of that. So for de gea we were not prepared to dit it and as mourinho so candidly said it, united opened the door for us to sign him, but we closed it ourselves.

For Chelsea and hazard I think it is the same because we don't have that desire to go after him regardless of the fee.

And I would argue that if he was playing for Chelsea or city, if it was that level of talent we would have still come after him. Obviously the size of clubs like the top 4 in England makes it harder, and as we did with Ronaldo it did not all happen in one summer but we still got our man. The most difficult thing is to turn the player imo and we have shown we know how to do that

It would only be possible if said player wasn't a long time academy player. You're not going to tempt someone who's been at Chelsea since he was 8 years old to join Real Madrid (assuming Mbappe level talent). It won't work. But then again that also depends on the player's personality and other factors that could play into your hands (like Beckham fighting with Fergie).
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:19 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/07/26/newcastle-agree-deal-sign-borussia-dortmund-midfielder-mikel/

Anybody know anything about him?
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Post by Firenze Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:36 pm

yeah

sells for quite a lot on FIFA because of his nationality, handy for when they require high chemistry squad building challenges with multiple leagues

other than that not really, looks shite
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:39 pm

Fifa impressions don't count brah.
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Post by Robespierre Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:43 pm

Our mercato is dead if United don't sign Perisic ( so , uhm, probably it's better the death )

I can't still believe there was ppl to believe on Inter that spend 60 mln (!!) for 2 underage players rofl I mean those 2 , Pellegri and Salseco.
It was clearly a BS . Ppl should follow less mercato rumours, it's incredible the amount of garbage
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:49 pm

ES wrote:
Doc wrote:Who are those several clubs that snitched on Milan and are they Turin based?


I can tell you the clubs right now

Inter
Juve
Fiorentina
Napoli
Roma
Sassuolo
Atletico
Bayern
Dortmund
Spurs
Newcastle


Why would a Mike Ashley run club care about other clubs spending money? hmm
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:02 pm

According to Spanish sources, Chelsea have contacted Madrid about Bale, and Madrid are listening due to their advanced contact with Mbappe and the fact that they might need to sell one of the BBC.

They also explain that the bad relationship between man utd and Madrid is the reason why moi made those comments to bale "I can't sign you because you don't talk" ie unless Bale does ask that we negotiate with united we won't deal with them. They also mention that Mourinho is aware Chelsea are talking to Madrid.

Hazard-Morata-Bale

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:09 pm

No excuses?
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Post by Firenze Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:16 pm

Chelsea saving us from Morata and Brittle Bale :bow:

Conte :bow:
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Post by Nishankly Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:25 pm

RealGunner wrote:Jose Mourinho says some clubs are paying "too much"and are creating a "very strange and out-of-control" market.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40721040

Career spend on transfers:

Mourinho - £1.18 billion.
Guardiola - £850m
Wenger - £732m
Conte - £440m
Klopp - £284m
Pochettino - £232m
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Post by Kaladin Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:33 pm

Nishankly wrote:
RealGunner wrote:Jose Mourinho says some clubs are paying "too much"and are creating a "very strange and out-of-control" market.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40721040

Career spend on transfers:

Mourinho - £1.18 billion.
Guardiola - £850m
Wenger - £732m
Conte - £440m
Klopp - £284m
Pochettino - £232m


Honestly surprised Wenger is so high
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:37 pm

Surely they are selected managers, pretty sure Ancelotti and Pellegrini would be a lot higher than most on that list.
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Post by RealGunner Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:39 pm

Managers currently the PL only i believe.

Wenger has 18 seasons worth of spending compared to the others.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:04 pm

La sexta: Madrid are going for Dembele, they want to sign him and leaving him on loan at BVB

Damn right sign him before he costs us 150 mil next summer

Perez man what a man, billionaire building roads in villages in Colombia, saving the Brazilian youth from Barca and now injecting money on German youth football
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:12 pm

Ffs if we snatch Dembele from Barca Laughing won't happen though. He has Barca DNA
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:14 pm

He doesn't have Barca DNA he has just been linked with them.

Besides Barca DNA needs to be redefined after the nerman debacle, legends like Douglas signing and never playing, Andre Gomes etc...

What is barca DNA nowadays
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:16 pm

^ Well, first we need to make sure that rumor is legit. Unfortunately, that's nearly impossible given how unreliable news outlets have grown to be recently.

Just earlier today, Monaco's VP came out to deny MARCA's claim that there was any agreement in principles with Madrid for Mbappé. He might be lying, or he might be telling the truth, but for us fans, there's really no way for us to tell which is which.

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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:20 pm

I think Cesc broke the DNA balance scale. Ever since then they started neglecting their own in favour of pesteros. I mean who would blame them, Cesc has that effect on clubs

Dembele wants to play for Barca as much as Mbappe wants to play for us. But with the status of both clubs i don't think either will be too fussed if they went to the other, like many before them
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Post by Blue Barrett Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:20 pm

Sergi Roberto linked to Chelsea. We can never have nice things, it seems. I'd jump off a cliff if we signed him.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:42 pm

The Demon of Carthage wrote:^ Well, first we need to make sure that rumor is legit. Unfortunately, that's nearly impossible given how unreliable news outlets have grown to be recently.

Just earlier today, Monaco's VP came out to deny MARCA's claim that there was any agreement in principles with Madrid for Mbappé. He might be lying, or he might be telling the truth, but for us fans, there's really no way for us to tell which is which.

the People giving those news are as reliable as it gets for Madrid medias. Dembele is from Jose Luis Sanchez on la sexta, from marca you have Jose Felix Diaz, gallardo, carpio. They are good journalists.

As far as the denial I will remind you Atletico denying they are talking with us about Theo. Betis saying there is no deal for Ceballos. It's PR, until it's all done they will never admit there are negotiations
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:17 pm

Ross Barkley leaving everton
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Post by titosantill Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:29 pm

Nishankly wrote:
RealGunner wrote:Jose Mourinho says some clubs are paying "too much"and are creating a "very strange and out-of-control" market.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40721040

Career spend on transfers:

Mourinho - £1.18 billion.
Guardiola - £850m
Wenger - £732m
Conte - £440m
Klopp - £284m
Pochettino - £232m


i'm surprised klopp has spent that much, then again maybe cos i've hardly followed his bundesliga time/career. wenger i can understand, he's been managing for a very long time, 2 million here 4 million there, 10 here, and some high amounts like the 40 for ozil, and the price for alexis, i get it, over 20 years managing, yeah i understand that.

lol guardiola and mou though, 850 million, he hasn't even been coaching for ten years lol, and he took a sabbatical, even. mou too, lol, 1 billion? dang....i guess "tacticians" really need these players
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