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Post by urbaNRoots Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:14 pm

Alexis, Ozil, Cech, Xhaka and Bellerin are the only players I would be legitimately upset if they left. There are some which would annoy me if they left but nothing like these guys.

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Post by Jay29 Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:24 pm

Wenger increasingly confident he can sign Mbappe:

http://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/transfer-news/kylian-mbappe-arsenal-transfer-news-13226533

You know this will end with Mbappe signing for Madrid and Arsenal going "well, at least we tried" before bigging up Welbeck. Laughing

Alternatively, Mbappe signs for £100m. Gets injured for six months, as per the Arsenal rite of passage.

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Post by RealGunner Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:31 pm

seems legit
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Post by Sina Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:07 pm

Get French Football‏ @GFFN

*Arsène Wenger has spoken directly to Kylian Mbappé, according to tomorrow's L'Équipe.

*"Very little detail" has been leaked from Wenger & Mbappé's conversation, according to L'Équipe.

*During the phone call, Arsène Wenger in detail discussed his view on what Kylian Mbappé's entire career plan should be.

*Mbappé's representatives are unsure about Arsenal because of their non-participation in the Champions' League, according to L'Équipe.
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would take him
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Post by Chumlum Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:18 pm

If Mbappe WERE to join Arsenal, we all can moan about the fact that he would either be stymied by Arsenalesque injuries and flounder, or he'd be so good that the transfer sagas would become unbearable right away.

Let's just re-sign Yaya Sanogo. Crying or Very sad
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Post by RealGunner Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:38 pm

No idea why there is so much noise about Mbappe.

Arsenal spending over 100m on a player Laughing

A player rejecting Madrid for Arsenal Laughing

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Post by Chumlum Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:56 pm

It does seem like Arsenal's interest is at least legit, if ineffectual.

I could see a player "rejecting" an initial overture from Madrid for Arsenal if it meant a guaranteed starting spot for a couple seasons at Arsenal before a guaranteed starting spot at Madrid.

I just don't anticipate a player doing that when he could stay at Monaco, in the CL, anyway. If Mbappe were coming from, like, Auxerre or Lens or something, then I'd be more optimistic.
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Post by Twoism Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:03 pm

Yeap pretty much

I do believe there is a bid and no more than that. Lets look at striker options available break down in tier

Tier 1: Mbappe, Dembele, Aubameyang
Tier 2: Lukaku, Lacazette, Morata
Tier 3: Belotti, Berardi, Martial
Tier 4: ( old age & injury but still quality) Diego Costa, Falcao, Sturridge

Tier 1: is probably only available when all big boys around Europe done with their transfer, as long as one of them interested in the players, we won't have a chance

Tier 2: Lukaku is Chelsea bound, Morata I don't want so Laca is only option

Tier 3: 2 Italians will probably stay in Italy, Martial is actually good choice imo but Mou won't sell us and this depends on Morata deal

Tier 4: Only Sturridge and I don't want

So realistically only Laca lol
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Post by Arsenalfaithfull Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:28 am

it took teams like Man City few failed off season pursuits to tie up the players they were after. I am happy that we are starting to show our intent finally.

Now, before any one mentions that this is some kind of ploy to have the fans on board, I doubt that is the case. The dissatisfaction of the fans (apparently a minority of us lol ....) has never really effected the sales of the tickets, merchandises, or shirts and it certainly has not effected the growth of our teams popularity either.... so i donno hmm

Sign Mbappe, sign Lemar and tie down Ozil and Sanchez.... lets git'er done!
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Post by Jay29 Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:49 am

L'Equipe: Arsenal have made progress on signing Lacazette. Now favourites to sign him. Between them and Atleti.

https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Mercato-arsenal-accelere-sur-la-venue-d-alexandre-lacazette-lyon/812990

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Post by Sina Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:58 am

need some expert opinion
cant question his quality but still not sure what style he is best suited to?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:04 pm

Sina wrote:need some expert opinion
cant question his quality but still not sure what style he is best suited to?


What do you mean by best suited to? Because i have always seen him as a poor mans Aguero, take that how you will.

Would be a great signing imo, assuming the Mbappe stuff is bs.
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Post by urbaNRoots Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:08 pm

From what I've seen of him (not much) he is incredibly clinical in front of goal. He won't score goals on his own like Alexis, but if you put him through on goal or inside the box he will usually put it in the net. Also he is someone who creates chances for other attackers and has a generally good link-up play (Lyon played some sexy football last year) unlike someone like Aubameyang who is more a classic CF.

If we manage to also keep Alexis and Özil then we have an incredibly dangerous attack.
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Post by Sina Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:25 pm

previously i had the impression of him being that quick, on the shoulder forward that runs in behind and get on the end of chances

but more recently from what i have seen(still small sample)he impressed as a technical forward that can link play and hold up to play runners around him and therefore more suited for possession based team

but i dont know
which is why im confused

with Ozil/Alexis in 3421 counter attacker like Lukaku/Auba better suited imo
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Post by Jay29 Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:27 pm

If Mbappe is every remotely realistic I'd prefer that, but the money involved and the other clubs competing for him just makes it impossible to me. And spending over £100m on one player would probably mean no more signings, even if we sell a bunch of deadwood.

We have to take the Alexis situation into account as well. If we lose him we'll have to replace a 30-goal player who can dribble and create. That won't be cheap.

Plus a CM and whatever else we might need.

Lacazette for £44m just seems the most sensible move open to us at the moment.

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Post by urbaNRoots Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:41 pm

I honestly doubt Wenger will keep the 3421, he will panic back to 4231 after the first bad result.

Which is why it's important to sign another winger because we'll be left with Walcott occupying a place in the first team again.
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Post by Jay29 Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:47 pm

Even with the 3-4-2-1 our immediate backup in those positions is Iwobi and Walcott, so we could probably do with a winger regardless.

Not Mahrez, though. Think we would need someone who works harder to compliment Ozil and Alexis.

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Post by Sina Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:23 pm

really Want Lemar
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Post by urbaNRoots Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:56 pm

Guardian | Arsenal held talks with Lyon this week and they are expected to seal a £44m deal for Lacazette

BREAKING: @Arsenal are in talks to sign Lyon striker Alexandre Lacazette, Sky sources understand #ssnhq
Just need Pornstein to report this now
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Post by Sina Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:03 pm

--Xhaka--Ramsey
Alexis--Özil--Lemar
----Lacazette----

would be our best team since 10/11 that
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Post by Jay29 Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:10 pm

Not a fan of Xhaka-Ramsey in a 4-2-3-1. Would get exposed very quickly against a competent team.

Need to B2B CM for definite this summer. Tolisso would have been great.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:13 pm

Jay29 wrote:Not a fan of Xhaka-Ramsey in a 4-2-3-1. Would get exposed very quickly against a competent team.

Need to B2B CM for definite this summer. Tolisso would have been great.


Was going to say that, you either stick with what has worked or buy another CM.

Having said that i don't understand why you would change it tbh, it's been working and suits a lot of your better players.
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Post by Jay29 Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:20 pm

I don't either but Wenger made the switch out of necessity. I think if he has the choice he'd go with the extra attacker every time.

Saying that we need a CM regardless. If Xhaka goes down we'll have no creative CMs on the pitch.

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Post by Sina Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:13 pm

we need Nzonzi imo
could partner both Xhaka and Ramsey ,would be great option without necessarily being regular for certain spot
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Post by Jay29 Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:29 pm

N'Zonzi is excellent.

But he wants to play CL football with Sevilla :coffee:

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