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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon May 29, 2017 6:39 pm

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Post by CBarca Mon May 29, 2017 6:49 pm

Not Enrique :bow:
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Post by Firenze Mon May 29, 2017 6:58 pm

who is this jabroni, just another yes man for Messi to order around and tow the company line or is he legit
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Post by Lord Awesome Mon May 29, 2017 6:59 pm

Acceptable choice.
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Post by Myesyats Mon May 29, 2017 8:49 pm

Maybe we will finally be capable tactically. Been too many years dependent on individual brilliance

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Post by Doc Mon May 29, 2017 9:32 pm

Firenze wrote:who is this jabroni, just another yes man for Messi to order around and tow the company line or is he legit

His Athletic side finished 7th in La Liga which is essentially 13th in the EPL, 1st in Serie A and legendary in Bundesliga. They were, um, yeah, they were good throughout the season but it's Athletic so their player talent pool is limited due to their policy (which I still don't like but whatever). To me, he is a boring choice. He won't bring any real difference in how Barcelona play since I doubt he'll have much of a choice there but he is better equipped tactically speaking than Lucho so there is that plus.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon May 29, 2017 9:36 pm

Lurcho :facepalm:

So tactically incapable he only managed one treble, one league-cup double and another cup in his entire 3 year reign

What a clown.
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Post by Doc Mon May 29, 2017 9:44 pm

Futbol, if you have something to say, say it. Don't play you hiding in the shadows, up voting men.

Also, never said he was "tactically incapable". Just said Valverde is tactically better equipped. I liked Lucho to be honest, think he did what he needed to do to get his side to win games (which Barcelona did. Quite a lot of games too.).
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon May 29, 2017 9:58 pm

Was more a reply to @micecats's statement that Barca are now going to be tactically capable, at last.
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Post by Myesyats Mon May 29, 2017 10:10 pm

Barca needs to not only win, but also to do it in style. Lucho made us win a couple trophies but apart from 14/15 season, we've played like crap and I even started to miss many games which never happened before.

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Post by futbol Mon May 29, 2017 10:28 pm

Have you seen his face?

























































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That face couldn't motivate me to get out of my bed to penetrate Amber Heard and Priyanka Chopra in a free birthday present threesome. How is he going to motivate Barca to penetrate other teams? To be a successful coach you need to be stylish and charismatic.

Spoiler:

It is common knowledge that 87 % of professional football players are latently homosexual due to being exposed to other men's naked bodies in the dressing room since a very young age. So a stylish coach is THE key to success.

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Post by Doc Mon May 29, 2017 10:30 pm

Yeah, that whole "win with style" usually gets thrown out the window when you watch your team go through a couple barren seasons. Lucho's team may not have been stylish or ground breaking but he won. A lot. Even this season where one heard stuff like "worst Barcelona in ten years" or "terrible Barcelona" still managed to reach 90 points with +80 GD, a UCL QF exit from a very good opponent and, in accordance to the Firenze School of Trophy winning, just a trophy short of a treble (Super Cup, CDR).

I know Barca fans don't like Lucho all that much and as part of another fan base of ridiculousness, I understand, truly, but for 3 years, he has kept Barcelona winning. You can talk about style when you're winning. If you wanna know a proper fall from grace when it comes to that argument, see Utd fans. That whole "the United way" has essentially come to a halt.
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Post by Myesyats Mon May 29, 2017 11:14 pm

You need to do more than "just winning" when you have players like Neymar, Messi, Suarez, Busquets, Iniesta etc. That's all I have to say.

I don't claim Lucho was a bad coach, I respect him, but with such a squad style needs to go along with winning,

long balls or individual brilliance is nothing to be proud of when you're Barca or RM, obviously some games require dirty measures but there are limits.

His first season was brilliant not only because of actually winning all most important trophies but the way we played, we actually dominated champions from every leauge and the players knew what they needed to do when they go out on the pitch.

This season it's been hurr durr long ball Messi do something hoof ball no plan chaos.... a mess just like this sentence

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Post by Casciavit Mon May 29, 2017 11:16 pm

Boring appointment.

I wonder how Lucho will do elsewhere, aka another big club. People like to take digs at Pep for relying on individual brilliance, but Lucho relied on those individual moments of magic much more than Pep ever did.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon May 29, 2017 11:18 pm

We saw how he did before he arrived at Barca, so i don't really need to wonder tbh.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue May 30, 2017 12:01 am

All I ask of Valverde is that he makes Barca fun to watch again, irrespective of the winning. It's frankly disgraceful that a team that has MSN was so boring at times, although I'll admit he got better in the last quarter of the season.
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Post by Arquitecto Tue May 30, 2017 1:18 am

(Not) Shocking how little people know of Txingurri here given no one watches Athletic in this forum so why in the world does it have to be posed with ignorance or just ruling him out cause he hasn't won a league or CL title.

If he adjusts his game by the period then he will be a success in Barça, calling it here.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed May 31, 2017 1:56 am

futbol wrote:
Spoiler:


Take a hike son:

People that actually know him wrote:More importantly, few reach their players like he does. “His greatest strength is his management of the dressing room,” says the Manchester United midfielder Ander Herrera. “He’s a top coach in that sense: honest, direct, transparent. It’s not easy to find a situation where starters and subs are both with the manager to the death.”

González says: “He’s very good psychologically and emotionally, a good motivator. He knows when to push, when to ease off. All coaches have ideas, badges, models, but ultimately that treatment, the dialogue and feedback with players, is vital. That’s his secret.”
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Post by Doc Wed May 31, 2017 6:33 pm

If anyone must know, that was from Sid Lowe's excellent article on Valverde. If any Barca fan wants to know a lil about him, check it out.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/may/30/ernesto-valverde-barcelona-nou-camp-stone-roses
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Post by RealGunner Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:22 am

I think it's a pretty decent appointment. Like BC said, I just hope he makes Barcelona play good football again and put emphasis on their midfield. Sure, MSN are amazing but barcelona played some terrible football because of the mediocre midfielders they had behind MSN.

I do wonder if he will persist with 4-2-3-1 which is anti barca or will he change it to 4-3-3.
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Post by futbol Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:56 am

4-2-3-1 is impossible.

4-2-3-1 would mean Messi as #10 and to make it work with Messi as a #10 you would need a double pivot consisting of Vieira and Makelele.

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Post by Luca Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:55 pm

Next PSG manager

DNA too strong

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Post by futbol Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:56 pm

futbol wrote:Have you seen his face?

























































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That face couldn't motivate me to get out of my bed to penetrate Amber Heard and Priyanka Chopra in a free birthday present threesome. How is he going to motivate Barca to penetrate other teams? To be a successful coach you need to be stylish and charismatic.

Spoiler:

It is common knowledge that 87 % of professional football players are latently homosexual due to being exposed to other men's naked bodies in the dressing room since a very young age. So a stylish coach is THE key to success.



If you listened to me this wouldn't have happened.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:34 pm

futbol wrote:No Dempélé, no party, obviously.
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Post by Myesyats Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:45 pm

While heading back from Rome to Barcelona, during the flight, Messi and Pique approached Valverde and hit out at how the game was managed #fcblive [cuatro]

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