Is Valverde the most underrated coach in the world?

3-0 vs Liverpool
3-0 vs United
5-1 vs Lyon
3-0 vs Madrid
2-0 vs Atletico
6-1 vs Sevilla
3-0 vs Juventus
5-1 vs Madrid
4-2 vs Spurs
5-0 vs Sevilla
3-0 vs Chelsea
3-0 vs Madrid

Probably the best coach in the world since he joined Barcelona.

Spanish Allegri and hence the results.

Spanish Allardyce with Zidanes luck

Great man, great manager who'll never join the "great Barca coaches" because his team is "boring". Actually, yeah, they are a bit boring to be fair.

RealGunner wrote:Spanish Allegri and hence the results.

People keep saying this..but what have they got in common exactly?

Results? Allegri has nowhere near this much results against big teams, Spurs. Barcelona (has got their number beat them twice in 15 occasions), Bayern, Ajax, etc

European pedigree? Please, my abdomins ductus cant take anymore

Playstyle? Unsure but i doubt Allegri is playing hop skip wonderland football with Khedira, Can, Matuidi, Bentancur etc

Allegri is an underdog coach, he goes into every match thinking the opponent is better than him. Juve thrives thanks to this, Barcelona on the other hand are worldies, they expect to beat every team with a high margin.

They are nowhere near similar.

RealGunner wrote:Spanish Allegri and hence the results.

* Basque Allegri

Not an insult clearly, but just he looks like further than others from Barca philosophy
I've sometimes watched  Barcellona playing with a defensive attitude after they were 1-0 and then they've closed the match through individual prowess

Anyway I recognize that  defensive sub Coutinho-Semedo gave stability to Barca during its most difficult moment in the match against Liverpool, and then Barca was able to close the match

Typical coach who can get true appreciation just if he gets results and at this moment he is doing this

Barcelona under Valverde vs Big Team

2017-2018

La Liga

Atletico Madrid 1 Barcelona 1

Real Madrid 0 Barcelona 3

Barcelona 1 Atletico Madrid 0

Barcelona 2 Real Madrid 2

Champions League

Barcelona 3 Juventus 0

Juventus 0 Barcelona 0

Chelsea 1 Barcelona 1

Barcelona 3 Chelsea 0

Barcelona 4 Roma 1

Roma 3 Barcelona 0

2018-2019

La Liga

Barcelona 5 Real Madrid 1

Atletico Madrid 1 Barcelona 1

Real Madrid 0 Barcelona 3

Barcelona 1 Real Madrid 0

Barcelona 2 Atletico Madrid 0

Champions League

Spurs 2 Barcelona 4

Barcelona 1 Spurs 1

MU 0 Barcelona 1

Barcelona 3 MU 0

Barcelona 3 Liverpool 0

STAT

win = 13 matches

draw = 6

lose = 1

Yeah to lose 1 big game out of 20 is extraordinary, gotta give him that. I don't like his style of play but he knows how to get results, although not the pretty way.

Great coach.

He gets a lot of undeserved shit from the plastic Farça fans who started following the team in 2008-2011. You know, the entitled glory hunters who think yearly trebles and weekly drubbing of opponents should be the norm for the team.

I would say he is a Good coach. Underrated no.He is very well managing the team and producing fantastic result.

Remove Messi from the team and archive , with the likeness of Arthur-Dembele-Suarez-Vidal-Finished_Busquets then only i can say that yes , still underrated.Think it is messi who is Brining glory and not the other way around.

Not a big fan of sitting back and wait for counter but it seems he has nicely integrated this approach with the team. Which esentail give an edge to Barcelona to slow the tempo and attack from back or do counters from flank when needed.

guest_07 wrote:Barcelona under Valverde vs Big Team

2017-2018

La Liga

Atletico Madrid 1 Barcelona 1

Real Madrid 0 Barcelona 3

Barcelona 1 Atletico Madrid 0

Barcelona 2 Real Madrid 2

Champions League

Barcelona 3 Juventus 0

Juventus 0 Barcelona 0

Chelsea 1 Barcelona 1

Barcelona 3 Chelsea 0

Barcelona 4 Roma 1

Roma 3 Barcelona 0

2018-2019

La Liga

Barcelona 5 Real Madrid 1

Atletico Madrid 1 Barcelona 1

Real Madrid 0 Barcelona 3

Barcelona 1 Real Madrid 0

Barcelona 2 Atletico Madrid 0

Champions League

Spurs 2 Barcelona 4

Barcelona 1 Spurs 1

MU 0 Barcelona 1

Barcelona 3 MU 0

Barcelona 3 Liverpool 0

STAT

win = 13 matches

draw = 6

lose = 1

Left out Sevilla 6-1-1, the only loss coming when Messi didn't play.

Now i see the Allegri similarity.

Doc wrote:Great man, great manager who'll never join the "great Barca coaches" because his team is "boring". Actually, yeah, they are a bit boring to be fair.

Fire his ass Barcelona, Basque Allegri indeed.

Kaladin wrote:Now i see the Allegri similarity.

Kaladin wrote:Now i see the Allegri similarity.

What similarity? Allegri is miles better. If Barca wanted to ape Juve, they should have hired Allegri.

Miles better at what exactly?

Doc wrote:Miles better at what exactly?

At coaching

In Italy?

Kaladin wrote:In Italy?

Apparently. A man's opinion is his own I suppose. Don't see the "miles better" but what do I know.

Kaladin wrote:In Italy?

Also, in Europe

Your career mode save doesn't count mate

I mean, Allegri did make 2 CL finals and Valverde none so sure, I guess that makes him miles better.

Did you see their routes? Porto, one of the worst Barcas, Monaco

2015;
Dortmund, Monaco, a Madrid side that played Ramos in midfield

Sorry i think i'm the only one here who doesn't buy into this Euromax crap