The Matip Effect

From one of the worst defenses in all of Europe to the best This with Lovren as his partner. Makeshift LB in Milner. Dodgy keepers in Karius/Mignolet. And Henderson as the DM giving him protection.

Klopp's system makes it work. These guys will all fail outside Pool similar to Kagawa, Sahin etc.

Defense is mostly about defending as a unit & not as individually.

Also Matip is a clown IMO for a top team & it's good Schalke lost him. If Pool wants to win they should buy Van Dijk & hope Klavan & Lovren perform well.

Or you depend on Van Dijk to make Matip look good.

Liverpool fans are the most delusional bunch I have seen - There was this ridiculous guy in this forum arguing Pool doesn't need a Winger & a CB - I said those are the 1st things they need & should dip into the Winter Market & that is what they will probably be doing. In general Pool fans tend to ride the bandwagon & overestimate players

You are by far the dumbest person I've met online, ever.

pls respond

The image I posted are ACTUAL stats.

The image you posted are some stupid subjective ratings.

Request to moderators to rename this the 'ARRY KANE thread

Because as far as I can see, he's the top rated player in the GOAT league

Don't call me James wrote:The image I posted are ACTUAL stats.

The image you posted are some stupid subjective ratings.

unreal disrespect. They are completely objective and use all them stats.

CBarca wrote:Request to moderators to rename this the 'ARRY KANE thread

Because as far as I can see, he's the top rated player in the GOAT league

Top rated when you don't take the 60 better rated players into account

My vision is amiss

I'll rephrase: Request to moderateors to rename this the 'ARRY KANE thread, because as far as I can see, he's a better defender than Matip in the GOAT league

I wouldn't call Liverpool's newly found defensive ways to be down to one player but I would be very disingenuous to say he hasn't been an integral part of it. That being said, if I have to give any credit to said defensive solidity, it would be to Klopp. Footyfan maybe correct in what he wrote in that respect.

I can say, without fear or favour, that if it were Brendan still running things, those very same defenders would have been on McAgger's shit list.

Liverpool also have the 2nd most possession in the PL (Just a bit behind City)


Who would have thought having more possession means opposition will have less shots? Uncanny.

I don't disagree that Klopp is the real MVP. But we conceded 50 goals last season with Klopp and again started this season horribly defensively. But the second that Matip has stepped into the pitch it's all been rosy. I don't need glasses to tell me that Matip is the main reason why we the change in fortune happened.

He's the best defender in the league and one of the best in the world (probably the best).

We are shit either way.

El Gunner wrote:We actually have the shared most shots per goal amongst the top 6 team?
Weren't we supposed to be shit in that so far this season

What?

Arsenal have like 13 shots per game, Liverpool have around 18.

Don't call me James wrote:

You are by far the dumbest person I've met online, ever.

reported

Is this kind of stuff ok on here these days?

Don't call me James wrote:I don't disagree that Klopp is the real MVP. But we conceded 50 goals last season with Klopp and again started this season horribly defensively. But the second that Matip has stepped into the pitch it's all been rosy. I don't need glasses to tell me that Matip is the main reason why we the change in fortune happened.

He's the best defender in the league and one of the best in the world (probably the best).

You are by far the dumbest person I've met online, ever.

Enough with the insults, lads.

I have seen so many Bayern force over the years tinkering with formations, Dante seeming like a Superhuman under Jupp & then fading.

Was Dante the reason for Bayern's defensive stability or Jupp's system in which even Robbery put huge defensive work?

Pool fans really have a ridiculous discussion. I have seen Matip for years & I mean god damn many years since he was a Schalke youth. He is an average defender IMO but not bad, probably better than Klavan & Lovren, nothing exceptional.

Let us give Klopp full credit for turning Pool into a strong defensive unit without major financial spending!

Kick wrote:Enough with the insults, lads.

I see you have your RedO cap on. Spoilsport. Hmpf!

footyfan01 wrote:I have seen so many Bayern force over the years tinkering with formations, Dante seeming like a Superhuman under Jupp & then fading.

Was Dante the reason for Bayern's defensive stability or Jupp's system in which even Robbery put huge defensive work?

Pool fans really have a ridiculous discussion. I have seen Matip for years & I mean god damn many years since he was a Schalke youth. He is an average defender IMO but not bad, probably better than Klavan & Lovren, nothing exceptional.

Let us give Klopp full credit for turning Pool into a strong defensive unit without major financial spending!

not sure if serious

Liverpool's DEFENCE have created 37 chances this season, more than any teams ATTACK other than Man City, Man Utd & Everton [OPTA] #LFC

Found it on twitter but did not check if it is correct ! We play Peps football better than Peps own team

Helmer wrote:

Liverpool's DEFENCE have created 37 chances this season, more than any teams ATTACK other than Man City, Man Utd & Everton [OPTA] #LFC

Found it on twitter but did not check if it is correct ! We play Peps football better than Peps own team

Mostly due to Milner and Clyne, who are far away the top 2 offensive fullbacks in the league in terms of production and chance creation. I can't find the picture that was on MOTD a few weeks back but it's insane how much more offensive production they give than other fullbacks.