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Re: Donald Trump watch
Putinfutbol wrote:Hitler.Unique wrote:tbh I like trump. he don't take any shit and says exactly what he thinks. when was the last time a world leader did that.
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Berlusconi.rincon wrote:Putinfutbol wrote:Hitler.Unique wrote:tbh I like trump. he don't take any shit and says exactly what he thinks. when was the last time a world leader did that.
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Kim Jong UnBetty La Fea wrote:Berlusconi.rincon wrote:Putinfutbol wrote: Hitler.
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Jean-Bédel BokassaThimmy wrote:Kim Jong UnBetty La Fea wrote:Berlusconi.rincon wrote: Putin
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AhmadinejadBetty La Fea wrote:Jean-Bédel BokassaThimmy wrote:Kim Jong UnBetty La Fea wrote: Berlusconi.
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MTPedram wrote:AhmadinejadBetty La Fea wrote:Jean-Bédel BokassaThimmy wrote:
Kim Jong Un
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Somalian pirates.RealGunner wrote:MTPedram wrote:AhmadinejadBetty La Fea wrote:Jean-Bédel Bokassa
They will find you and they will rob you.
Doesn't matter if it is U.S Navy vessel or Soudi oil bunker.
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'Hail Trump!': Video of white nationalists cheering the president-elect https://t.co/RYqNdLitkN pic.twitter.com/WhTPM7uKAA
— The Atlantic (@TheAtlantic) November 21, 2016
I wish it was from the onion but it isn't
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And so it begins....
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Stop being intolerant of other people's opinions
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The people in Nazi Germany at least had the excuse that it was an unprecedented development...
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You Germans really need to stop bringing up the nazis in comparison to Trump.
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people need to calm down tbh. do you know how many leaders in the world could be brought up on charges of murder. torcher. child abuse. human rights abuse and god knows how many more laws they break. trump has done none of that. maybe guys like you lot who think trump will start gassing the jews should worry more about world leaders that are actually doing these things instead of worrying about someone that will never do them things.
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Art Morte wrote:You Germans really need to stop bringing up the nazis in comparison to Trump.
He actually has Nazis celebrating his presidency in our nations capital.
There is a reason these type of events are illegal in Europe. Its going to get people killed.
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rwo power wrote:The people in Nazi Germany at least had the excuse that it was an unprecedented development...
They had no excuse at all. They voted for a party that was clear about what they wanted.
Same as Trump voters wouldn't have any excuses if something similar were to happen.
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Hitler was considered a clown and the other political parties with Hindenburg & Co thought they could reign him in easily. Sounds familiar?
Hitler was considered a clown and the other political parties with Hindenburg & Co thought they could reign him in easily. Sounds familiar?
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Just because some racists are hailing Trump as their messiah does not mean he's actually going to be that for them. Give it a few years and those same people will be angry at him for failing to deliver what they thought he'd deliver.Betty La Fea wrote:He actually has Nazis celebrating his presidency in our nations capital.Art Morte wrote:You Germans really need to stop bringing up the nazis in comparison to Trump.
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do you really beleave that trump and his supporters are Nazis and will start rounding people up and killing them or are you just being silly with the way over the top exaggerations like most people.Betty La Fea wrote:He actually has Nazis celebrating his presidency in our nations capital.Art Morte wrote:You Germans really need to stop bringing up the nazis in comparison to Trump.
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There is a reason these type of events are illegal in Europe. Its going to get people killed.
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that's if they were even trump supporters in the first place.Art Morte wrote:Just because some racists are hailing Trump as their messiah does not mean he's actually going to be that for them. Give it a few years and those same people will be angry at him for failing to deliver what they thought he'd deliver.Betty La Fea wrote:He actually has Nazis celebrating his presidency in our nations capital.Art Morte wrote:You Germans really need to stop bringing up the nazis in comparison to Trump.
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And what if they don't? What if they are emboldened and start killing/interning minorities. Its happened. Hell Asians are already getting their asses kicked, and I grew up in a house with people who were interned.Art Morte wrote:Just because some racists are hailing Trump as their messiah does not mean he's actually going to be that for them. Give it a few years and those same people will be angry at him for failing to deliver what they thought he'd deliver.Betty La Fea wrote:He actually has Nazis celebrating his presidency in our nations capital.Art Morte wrote:You Germans really need to stop bringing up the nazis in comparison to Trump.
I feel its very easy to tell people to calm down and not worry about it when you are protected from this reality by an Ocean. America, and Americans, are not above this behavior when times get tough.
I believe they could.Unique wrote:do you really beleave that trump and his supporters are Nazis and will start rounding people up and killing them or are you just being silly with the way over the top exaggerations like most people.Betty La Fea wrote:He actually has Nazis celebrating his presidency in our nations capital.Art Morte wrote:You Germans really need to stop bringing up the nazis in comparison to Trump.There is a reason these type of events are illegal in Europe. Its going to get people killed.
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Do you really think that the Germans planned to exterminate the Jews, disabled people, Roma etc at the beginning when Hitler got to power? The proceedings unfolded gradually, and no one really took things seriously in the beginning.Unique wrote:do you really beleave that trump and his supporters are Nazis and will start rounding people up and killing them
Mind you, I asked my grandparents about how this started, and they were right in the middle of it, and from what they told me, I can see frightening parallels unfolding in the US.
And that's why I won't keep quiet and instead point out the dangers, lest people might ask me later "Were you among the ones who watched silently, too? Shouldn't you have known better?"
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rwo power wrote:@zigra
Hitler was considered a clown and the other political parties with Hindenburg & Co thought they could reign him in easily. Sounds familiar?
Maybe he was considered a clown by other parties but that has nothing to do with the people who voted for him.
You can look up what Hitler and the NSDAP told them beforehand and they still voted for them. It's not like they were lied to. Maybe they didn't expect it to play out as extreme as it did, sure. But they certainly voted for this direction.
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People voted for the NSDAP because Hitler promised them better chances for a good living, work, and of course a greater Germany. Additionally he set up a concept of the enemy in the Jews (which was then extended to all "Non-Arians").
Trump promised a greater America, work etc and his concept of the enemy are Muslims, [criminal] Mexicans and other immigrants.
This article (unfortunately in German) takes a look at the reasons for the votes for Hitler: http://www.focus.de/wissen/mensch/geschichte/nationalsozialismus/tid-8712/hitlers-machtuebernahme_aid_235500.html
One thing they point out in the article is: "The [NSDAP] party was radical, anti-socialist [pretty much anti establishment, that is], nationalist, reactionary/unprogressive and revolutionary." - and these points seemed to have enticed many people.
Quite some of these adjectives fit Trumps election campaign, too.
Trump promised a greater America, work etc and his concept of the enemy are Muslims, [criminal] Mexicans and other immigrants.
This article (unfortunately in German) takes a look at the reasons for the votes for Hitler: http://www.focus.de/wissen/mensch/geschichte/nationalsozialismus/tid-8712/hitlers-machtuebernahme_aid_235500.html
One thing they point out in the article is: "The [NSDAP] party was radical, anti-socialist [pretty much anti establishment, that is], nationalist, reactionary/unprogressive and revolutionary." - and these points seemed to have enticed many people.
Quite some of these adjectives fit Trumps election campaign, too.
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I didn't say there are no parallels though.
In fact I said "Same as Trump voters wouldn't have any excuses if something similar were to happen."
In fact I said "Same as Trump voters wouldn't have any excuses if something similar were to happen."
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Yeah. BTW, my granny said when I asked here whether she voted for the NSDAP "Well, they said everything would become better."
Moreover, you need to remember that people didn't have TV or Internet to get informed via various sources, so it was even more easy to tell them whatever they wanted to hear to get them into the bag.
Moreover, you need to remember that people didn't have TV or Internet to get informed via various sources, so it was even more easy to tell them whatever they wanted to hear to get them into the bag.
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so who exactly do people think will get killed.
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