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Post by nasir6371 Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:10 pm

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La Liga president Javier Tebas says Real Madrid were wrong to try to block that new TV rights deal that comes into force this season.

Madrid went to the courts in an attempt to stop the new arrangement after being the only club to vote against it at La Liga's AGM last September, and Tebas said that stance had damaged the capital club's standing.

"It is an attitude from the past, and even lacking in class. Three times their legal attempts to block it were unsuccessful."
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There is no justification beside "Muh half the country is Madrid fans" nonsense. No way the league can grow if teams like Eibar only get €15m from TV rights. Only wish it was more evenly distributed.
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Post by Myesyats Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:17 pm

Pathetic.
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Post by Kaladin Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:28 pm

I don't see anything wrong with that
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Post by LeBéninois Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:32 pm

It's a buisiness . He's trying to get the best for his entreprise. Nothing wrong with that. La Liga should fight and stand their ground , simple as that.
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Post by nasir6371 Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:33 pm

Nothing immoral about it but it does reinforce the idea of Madrid being against competition. While their rivals were in favor of it.
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Post by Kaladin Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:34 pm

Of course they should be against their competition, you see Juventus doing any favors for the rest of the league?
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Post by zenmaster Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:36 pm

The difference between first two club revenue vs the mid table and bottom table is ridiculous. When comparing to Other EPL or Serie A , the gap in liga is just unacceptable.

Yes , it is a business but lets be a bit fair for other teams in terms of revenue.
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Post by nasir6371 Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:43 pm

ES please don't compare Juve buying players and going into the Legal system to stop a more equitable tv deal.

How can team compete when there is a €100M difference in the amount of TV money they get. Also Madrid are getting ~€10m less now than before. While teams like Atletico got ~€40m more Laughing

This is purely an anti-competitive move and not a loss prevention.
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Post by McAgger Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:57 pm

Are you guys retarded or something. 'Nothing immoral, don't see anything wrong with that, they should be against their competition.'

Do you actually stop to think for a second? :facepalm:

And it's nothing like what Juve and Bayern are doing.

This is beyond pathetic from Madrid. Football is a competitive sport and they are going above and beyond their way to cut their competition at their knees. Why are they even in La Liga if they are afraid of at the very least an equitable base for all clubs. You got more fans, bigger stadium, bigger brand so you're still ahead but to purposely cripple everyone else further it's just laughable. Might as well open their one team league with Castilla as their one competition. Maybe then they can win some *bleep* league titles Laughing
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:59 pm

Perez needs to hire Harvy Specter, losing three appeals Laughing
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Post by Valkyrja Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:09 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Perez needs to hire Harvy Specter, losing three appeals Laughing


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Post by VanDeezNuts Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:23 pm

RM and Barca both have made attempts to block this. I can see both sides to it- The difference in viewership between a Barca vs. XYZ or RM vs XYZ and any other mid to lower La Liga team match is insane.

But I also think the gap was a bit too big. Should just split the difference.

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Post by Freeza Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:28 pm

It's because they're a business. Should a business accept giving their profits to support a business who doesn't have any customers?

I don't mind them getting the money, since I'd like more competitiveness. But if I wass in charge of Real Madrid I'd do the same. No one watches the other clubs in the league, so I'd feel the money rightly belongs to my business.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:49 pm

vanDEEZ wrote:RM and Barca both have made attempts to block this. I can see both sides to it- The difference in viewership between a Barca vs. XYZ or RM vs XYZ and any other mid to lower La Liga team match is insane.

But I also think the gap was a bit too big. Should just split the difference.


Real and Barca still get vastly more money than the other clubs, and fro the models which were published they don't get any less than with their individual marketing.

This is a basic principle of solidarity and recognition that you belong to the same competition, and the basic well-being and quality of that competition is beneficial to everyone.
Really, really poor that Real would continue to try to sabotage the implementation of something as important as this.
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Post by Valkyrja Fri Aug 19, 2016 4:17 pm

vanDEEZ wrote:RM and Barca both have made attempts to block this. I can see both sides to it- The difference in viewership between a Barca vs. XYZ or RM vs XYZ and any other mid to lower La Liga team match is insane.

But I also think the gap was a bit too big. Should just split the difference.


besides this their attempt is quiet logical. keep in mind that we also have to compete in europe and take a look at the revenues that PL clubs get from their TV rights
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Post by Harmonica Fri Aug 19, 2016 4:19 pm

Waiting the equal referee share.
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Post by Valkyrja Fri Aug 19, 2016 4:31 pm

Harmonica wrote:Waiting the equal referee share.


Have been waiting for that for years to be honest.

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Post by VivaStPauli Fri Aug 19, 2016 4:33 pm

Despite being immoral, and lacking class, it's also short-sighted and stupid.
Real needs those scrub clubs to offer up a modicum of resistance to them, Barca, and Atletico for La Liga to be an attractive product which can be sold expensively.

If the league turned into the Scottish Premier, even Real would make less TV money.
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Post by sportsczy Fri Aug 19, 2016 4:40 pm

The problem is that the Spanish LFP is corrupt and generally incompetent.  It's a question of trust.  They should do it like the US leagues...  all the top clubs should vote for a commissioner that then represents the collective rights of the league.  You can't have second and third division clubs carry the same voting rights as the top league clubs.  They're easily corruptible and have been easily corrupted.

If Madrid/Barca felt that the LFP would negotiate media deals that would lead to their piece of the pie eventually getting bigger and the league better... they'd go for it.  They don't have such confidence.

Morality and "the right thing" are completely irrelevant concepts in business. It's about maximizing shareholder value within the framework of the law. Simple as that.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:06 pm

Lol if you think RM will sit in a room and accept that the voices of Real Alaves or Almeria matter lol
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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:09 pm

They matter just as much as yours. Do you want to play against yourselves? *bleep* pricks.
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Post by McAgger Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:13 pm

Long term Real Madrid need La Liga more than La Liga needs Real Madrid.

Nobody is gonna watch Real Madrid in an amateur league and friendlies if they were hypothetically kicked out La Liga and other country federations refused to take a foreign team. Maybe people will watch them first 5-10 years but it's all downhill from there.

La Liga will feel a big shock in short term but the league will adjust long term and it would be as if Madrid never happened.
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Post by Valkyrja Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:14 pm

Don't call me James wrote:Long term Real Madrid need La Liga more than La Liga needs Real Madrid.

Nobody is gonna watch Real Madrid in an amateur league and friendlies if they were hypothetically kicked out La Liga and other country federations refused to take a foreign team. Maybe people will watch them first 5-10 years but it's all downhill from there.

La Liga will feel a big shock in short term but the league will adjust long term and it would be as if Madrid never happened.


Who the hell do you think would watch La Liga without Real Madrid as the league is basically Real Madrid + Barcelona ? Laughing
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Post by CBarca Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:15 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:Despite being immoral, and lacking class, it's also short-sighted and stupid.
Real needs those scrub clubs to offer up a modicum of resistance to them, Barca, and Atletico for La Liga to be an attractive product which can be sold expensively.

If the league turned into the Scottish Premier, even Real would make less TV money.


This is the view I share. I don't personally think there is anything wrong with what Madrid is doing from a business sense (as Sports said, that's how it works...that being said I don't endorse the decision and agree it's morally reprehensible), I'm just not sure that it actually is within their interests to undercut the rest of the league.

More money spread out leads to a more competitive league, and that's better for viewers. Especially with the EPL doing this, trying to keep their 'most competitive league in the world's claim, and snapping up all of the talent.

I feel it's within Madrid's and La Liga's interest as a whole to share revenue more fairly. Madrid and Barca won't have any problems anyway.
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Post by McAgger Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:16 pm

People watch Real Madrid BECAUSE they are part of La Liga. People do NOT watch La Liga because Real Madrid is a part of it. They would just as well watch Barca-Valencia and Atletico-Sevilla.

And no one would watch Real Madrid in an amateur league.
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