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Post by Kaladin Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:15 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Race rofl

Congratulations Cristiano for his 4th Ballon d'or

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Post by Harmonica Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:22 pm

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Post by Bankz Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:25 pm

Well, lets be honest here. Ronaldo has the balon d'or written all over it.. If for nothing, because its a trophy portugal had never won before (even if I admit he wasn't the best player by any stretch of the imagination) and because he single handedly won the wolfsburg game for madrid on their way to winning the CL. Not necessarily because he was the best player in the calender year. I remember madrid fans calling for perez to sell him to psg not long ago last season.

The BDO has never being for the best players in the world so to speak generally, its a trophy that's reserved for those who actually did something worthwhile throughout the course of the year. If not, messi would have kept on winning the BDO for the last 9 years and easily too.

Having said that, a part of me still tells me that if ronaldo could win it in 2013, then, there's nothing stopping messi from pulling off an upset this year. In fact, I'm willing to bet that messi would actually pip CR7 to the award this year if he goes on a tear between now and november. Never overestimate the memory management of football fans (coaches/captains), we seem to remember more fondly the recent events tbh and that has a way of affecting our decisions. This is human nature and its present in every human endeavor.
With that being said, we all know messi is the best player in the world. Right?


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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:27 pm

Bale should win it tbh. The silent hero
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Post by Bankz Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:38 pm

Lmao. If we're going a step lower, then err, ever heard of suarez? hmm and you do know bale had a total of 0 goals in the CL, madrid's only trophy last season? Very Happy Neither did he play in the Euro super cup. He also won nothing for wales while not even being their best player nor was he the highest goal scorer. Infact he didn't even score a knock out round goal or give any assists iirc.

As for suarez, well check this out, 59 goals, la liga, copa del rey, pinchichi, spanish super cup. How bout that? hmm
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Post by Bankz Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:41 pm

...aaaand before you go into suarez being a refurbished inzaghi and being a poach expert, (I already know that) but, still better than anything bale did the whole of last season. Too bad he's unlucky and probably unloved.
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Post by LeBéninois Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:44 pm

suarez will never win the ballon d'or, heck he might never even not get top 3 .

Cr7 - Messi - Griez imo is going to be top 3

Suarez / Griez are going to be close in terms of vote imo.
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:48 pm

Bankz, Bale is so much more than goals these days and its not his fault reffs ans defenders continue to steal his goals :coffee: should have been MOTM in the CL final despite not scoring. Suarez should be compared to Higuain not Bale tbh. Bale steered Wales to their first ever Semi-final, while Suarez stirred trouble on the sidelines failing to Kommand his team to victory instead punching and kicking the poor seats on the bench
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Post by Curtinho Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:01 pm

Bale has been fantastic this year. Better than Ronaldo IMO, but Ronaldo has the numbers and the accolades to probably take it again.
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Post by RealGunner Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:01 pm

Ronaldo's to lose
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Post by Bankz Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:29 pm

Well, ronaldo's been nothing special this year, so there's that.. Almost anyone is better than ronaldo these days, heck even higuain too
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Post by juve_gigi Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:45 pm

I can almost guarantee you that Harmonica IS Messi. There is no other logical explanation for his orgasmic love and devotion to another man that he's probably never ever met...

Ciao Messi how are you? Can I call you Leo, or do you still want to go by your moniker HARMONICA???
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Post by Harmonica Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:52 am

Goals and Assists for club and NT 2016 (4.9.16)

67 Messi (38+29, playmaker)
56 Suarez (38+18, striker)
49 Zlatan (37+12, striker)
43 Cronaldo (32+11, striker)
33 Griezmann (26+7, striker)
31 Lewandowski (27+4, striker) +2
31 Neymar (16+15, playmaker) +1
29 Higuain (26+3, striker) -2
25 Sanchez (12+13, playmaker) +2
25 Di Maria (8+17, playmaker) -1
22 Bale (16+6, playmaker) -1
20 Benzema (13+7, striker)
20 Pogba (7+13, playmaker)
19 Dybala (13+6, striker) +1
18 Kane (17+1, striker) -1
18 James (9+9, playmaker)
16 Mahrez (7+9, playmaker) +1
15 Vardy (15+0, striker) -1
14 Özil (7+7, playmaker) +1
13 Kroos (4+9, playmaker) -1
3 Iniesta (0+3, playmaker)

Super Messi leading both goals and assist. :bow:
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:06 am

juve_gigi wrote:I can almost guarantee you that Harmonica IS Messi.


I wish I could vote you a -1 for this hopeless, sorry heap of words.
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Post by Harmonica Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:08 am

Added trophies.

Goals and Assists / trophies for club and NT 2016 (4.9.16)

67/3 Messi (38+29, playmaker)
56/3 Suarez (38+18, striker)
49/4 Zlatan (37+12, striker)
43/2 Cronaldo (32+11, striker)
33/0 Griezmann (26+7, striker)
31/3 Lewandowski (27+4, striker) +2
31/3 Neymar (16+15, playmaker) +1
29/0 Higuain (26+3, striker) -2
25/1 Sanchez (12+13, playmaker) +2
25/3 Di Maria (8+17, playmaker) -1
22/2 Bale (16+6, playmaker) -1
20/3 Benzema (13+7, striker)
20/2 Pogba (7+13, playmaker)
19/2 Dybala (13+6, striker) +1
18/0 Kane (17+1, striker) -1
18/3 James (9+9, playmaker)
16/1 Mahrez (7+9, playmaker) +1
15/1 Vardy (15+0, striker) -1
14/0 Özil (7+7, playmaker) +1
13/2 Kroos (4+9, playmaker) -1
3/3 Iniesta (0+3, playmaker)
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:11 am

IMO the Supercup should be regarded as a wide trophy though
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Post by Harmonica Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:12 am

Or tapin?
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:18 am

Right.

The Supercup, League Cup or Community Shield are more like tapins, while the Euros and the CL are golazos.

Zlatan and Messi, kings of the tapin trophies Proud
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:21 am

BTW shouldn't the European Super Cup too count for Ronaldo or are you excluding him from that because he was injured?

He was injured in the Euro final too, for 80% of the game time, so arguably he should only receive 0.2 points instead of 1 for that trophy.
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Post by Harmonica Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:22 am

Zlatan 3+1 in finals Fakenaldo 0+0, would be hilarious if Fakenaldo tops Zlatan to Top 3. rofl
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Post by S Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:22 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:Right.

The Supercup, League Cup or Community Shield are more like tapins, while the Euros and the CL are golazos.

Zlatan and Messi, kings of the tapin trophies Proud


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Post by Kaladin Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:33 am

Harmonica wrote:Zlatan 3+1 in finals Fakenaldo 0+0, would be hilarious if Fakenaldo tops Zlatan to Top 3. rofl


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Post by rwo power Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:50 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:He was injured in the Euro final too, for 80% of the game time, so arguably he should only receive 0.2 points instead of 1 for that trophy.
Probably you should add 0.3 points for vehemently taking over as coach of the team though hmm
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Post by rincon Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:00 am

Since we are giving points for the trophies, how many points will CR get when he kommandingly wins the Ballon d'Or? hmm

El Kommander
EURO = 3 points
Chamions League = 3 points
UEFA super cup = 1 point he didn't play
Ballon D'Or = 2 points
Total = 8 points

Mesxit
La Liga = 3 points
Copa del Rey = 2 points
Spanish supercup = 1 point
Missing the crucial penalty in the Copa America = -1 point
Total = 5 points

Kommander Molenation
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Post by juve_gigi Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:28 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
juve_gigi wrote:I can almost guarantee you that Harmonica IS Messi.  


I wish I could vote you a -1 for this hopeless, sorry heap of words.


Is that you Carletto?  I'm telling your wife that you're ragging on people from Vancouver.  She won't be happy.  I might have to take her out to dinner tonight... Cool
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Post by Harmonica Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:42 am

Added Hazard and De Bruyne.

Goals and Assists / trophies for club and NT 2016 (17.9.16)

74/3 Messi (43+31, playmaker)
65/3 Suarez (42+23, striker)
50/4 Zlatan (38+12, striker)
45/2 Cronaldo (34+11, striker)
40/3 Neymar (19+21, playmaker) +2
38/0 Griezmann (30+8, striker) -1
35/3 Lewandowski (30+5, striker) -1
31/0 Higuain (28+3, striker)
28/1 Sanchez (15+13, playmaker)
26/2 Bale (18+8, playmaker) +1
26/3 Di Maria (8+18, playmaker) -1
20/3 Benzema (13+7, striker)
20/2 Dybala (13+7, striker) +1
20/1 De Bruyne (10+10, playmaker) new
20/2 Pogba (7+13, playmaker) -1
19/0 Kane (18+1, striker)
19/0 Hazard (10+9, playmaker) new
19/3 James (9+10, playmaker)
19/1 Mahrez (9+10, playmaker)
18/1 Vardy (16+2, striker)
15/2 Kroos (4+11, playmaker) +1
14/0 Özil (7+7, playmaker) -1
4/3 Iniesta (1+3, playmaker)

Neymar soon passing Fakenaldo even in casual statistics. Laughing
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