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Post by The Demon of Carthage Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:26 pm

Dude, you could add the 7.4 billion people living on this planet and Ronaldo would still win the BdO this year.

But if you ask me? I don't think he deserves it, and neither does Messi. In fact, I don't think there's anyone out there who played at Ballon d'Or level consistently from the beginning til the end of the season. I don't know, maybe these two have raised the bar too much, including for themselves. And if it was up to me, I wouldn't give it to anybody this year. But it has to go to someone, and Ronaldo even though doesn't deserve it is the closest to it than anybody else with his club and national team achievement. One thing for sure though, Messi doesn't and shouldn't win the BdO this year, no matter how you spin it through the magic of those numbers, which nobody else apart from you reads btw.

I suggest you start thinking about creating another conspiracy thread of how Ronaldo didn't deserve the BdO to go along with  the billion other threads you've created for him.

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Post by Harmonica Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:26 pm

The Demon of Carthage wrote:Dude, you could add the 7.4 billion people living on this planet and Ronaldo would still win the BdO this year.

But if you ask me? I don't think he deserves it, and neither does Messi. In fact, I don't think there's anyone out there who played at Ballon d'Or level consistently from the beginning til the end of the season. I don't know, maybe these two have raised the bar too much, including for themselves. But one thing for sure, Messi doesn't and shouldn't win the BdO this year, no matter how you spin it through the magic of those numbers, which nobody else apart from you reads btw.

I suggest you start thinking about creating another conspiracy thread of how Ronaldo didn't deserve the BdO to go along with the billion other threads you've created for him.
It's not beginning to end season award, it's calendar year award. Messi has been blazing the whole year, he's twice goals and assists compared to next best playmaker.
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Post by Harmonica Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:27 pm

Added Vardy and Kane.

Goals and Assists for club and NT 2016 (20.7.16)

60 Messi (34+26, playmaker)
52 Suarez (34+18, striker)
45 Zlatan (33+12, striker)
43 Cronaldo (32+11, striker)
33 Griezmann (26+7, striker)
29 Neymar (15+14, playmaker)
28 Higuain (25+3, striker)
24 Di Maria (8+16, playmaker)
23 Lewandowski (20+3, striker)
22 Sanchez (11+11, playmaker)
20 Bale (14+6, playmaker)
20 Benzema (13+7, striker)
17 Kane (17+0, striker)
13 Vardy (13+0, striker)
12 Mahrez (4+12, playmaker)
11 Özil (5+6, playmaker)
3 Iniesta (0+3, playmaker)
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Post by Luca Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:30 pm

Can you add how many appearances the players have made? If its not too much trouble.

Like Di Maria's score of 24, is that in how many games did those goal and assists (combined) happen?

Ronaldo will win this, not that I think that he had a particularly great run in 2016 but the trophies matter a whole lot.

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Post by Valkyrja Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:32 pm

Iniesta rofl
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Post by Harmonica Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:38 pm

Added James and Kroos.

Goals and Assists for club and NT 2016 (20.7.16)

60 Messi (34+26, playmaker)
52 Suarez (34+18, striker)
45 Zlatan (33+12, striker)
43 Cronaldo (32+11, striker)
33 Griezmann (26+7, striker)
29 Neymar (15+14, playmaker)
28 Higuain (25+3, striker)
24 Di Maria (8+16, playmaker)
23 Lewandowski (20+3, striker)
22 Sanchez (11+11, playmaker)
20 Bale (14+6, playmaker)
20 Benzema (13+7, striker)
17 Kane (17+0, striker)
15 James (8+7, playmaker)
12 Kroos (3+9, playmaker)
13 Vardy (13+0, striker)
12 Mahrez (4+12, playmaker)
11 Özil (5+6, playmaker)
3 Iniesta (0+3, playmaker)
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Post by Harmonica Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:39 pm

Luca wrote:Can you add how many appearances the players have made? If its not too much trouble.

Like Di Maria's score of 24, is that in how many games did those goal and assists (combined) happen?
I can.
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Post by Harmonica Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:40 pm

Valkyrja wrote:Iniesta rofl
We all know he's going to be on the shortlist.   scratch
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Post by Luca Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:44 pm

Harmonica wrote:
Luca wrote:Can you add how many appearances the players have made? If its not too much trouble.

Like Di Maria's score of 24, is that in how many games did those goal and assists (combined) happen?
I can.


Sweet, just curious.

Also can you add Dybala, Pogba, Insigne and Pjanic?

I just want to see how they stack up, the list lacks serie z representation.

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Post by futbol Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:46 pm

LMAO Benzema "striker". While everyone knows he's playmaker. This list. rofl

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Post by Harmonica Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:47 pm

@Luca

Goals and Assists for club and NT 2016 (20.7.16)

60 Messi (34+26@39, playmaker)
52 Suarez (34+18@30, striker)
45 Zlatan (33+12@31, striker)
43 Cronaldo (32+11@35, striker)
33 Griezmann (26+7@41, striker)
29 Neymar (15+14@30, playmaker)
28 Higuain (25+3@30, striker)
24 Di Maria (8+16@32, playmaker)
23 Lewandowski (20+3@33, striker)
22 Sanchez (11+11@31, playmaker)
20 Bale (14+6@24, playmaker)
20 Benzema (13+7@20, striker)
17 Kane (17+0@33, striker)
15 James (8+7@29, playmaker)
12 Kroos (3+9@30, playmaker)
13 Vardy (13+0@25, striker)
12 Mahrez (4+12@21, playmaker)
11 Özil (5+6@29, playmaker)
3 Iniesta (0+3@30, playmaker)
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Post by Harmonica Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:48 pm

futbol wrote:LMAO Benzema "striker". While everyone knows he's playmaker. This list. rofl
How's Benzema playmaker? He doesn't create or advance the game? hmm


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Post by RealGunner Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:49 pm

Eventhough Zlatan is 3rd, he shouldn't be anywhere in the top 5 due to the french league being weak and due to his lacklustre CL campaign.

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Post by Lucifer Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:50 pm

futbol wrote:LMAO Benzema "striker". While everyone knows he's deep lying playmaker. This list. rofl

Fixed

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Post by Harmonica Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:00 pm

Added Pogba and Dybala.

Goals and Assists for club and NT 2016 (20.7.16)

60 Messi (34+26@39, playmaker)
52 Suarez (34+18@30, striker)
45 Zlatan (33+12@31, striker)
43 Cronaldo (32+11@35, striker)
33 Griezmann (26+7@41, striker)
29 Neymar (15+14@30, playmaker)
28 Higuain (25+3@30, striker)
24 Di Maria (8+16@32, playmaker)
23 Lewandowski (20+3@33, striker)
22 Sanchez (11+11@31, playmaker)
20 Bale (14+6@24, playmaker)
20 Benzema (13+7@20, striker)
19 Pogba (7+12@35, playmaker)
18 Dybala (13+5@22, striker)
17 Kane (17+0@33, striker)
15 James (8+7@29, playmaker)
12 Kroos (3+9@30, playmaker)
13 Vardy (13+0@25, striker)
12 Mahrez (4+8@21, playmaker)
11 Özil (5+6@29, playmaker)
3 Iniesta (0+3@30, playmaker)


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Post by Luca Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:03 pm

Awesome stuff Thumbs up

Found a small typo:
12 Mahrez (4+12@21, playmaker)

Should be 16

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Post by Harmonica Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:04 pm

Luca wrote:Awesome stuff Thumbs up

Found a small typo:
12 Mahrez (4+12@21, playmaker)

Should be 16
Thanks it's actually 4+8.
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Post by Harmonica Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:10 pm

Messi 2012 91+29=120. Messi half 2016 34+26=60. hmm
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Post by zizzle Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:12 pm

We all know CR will win at this point so whats the use really
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Post by Harmonica Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:13 pm

zizzle wrote:We all know CR will win at this point so whats the use really
Nobody knows it yet, nobody can't even argue for it yet.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:21 pm

Harmonica: I refuse to believe Laughing
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Post by Lucifer Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:31 pm

Who do u support harmonica? If I may ask.

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Post by Harmonica Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:52 pm

Lucifer wrote:Who do u support harmonica? If I may ask.
I always support the best performers, and currently Messi has been the best by big margin, second Griezmann and third either Bale or Suarez.
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Post by Vlad the Impaler Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:00 pm

Harmonica wrote:
Lucifer wrote:Who do u support harmonica? If I may ask.
I always support the best performers, and currently Messi has been the best by big margin, second Griezmann and third either Bale or Suarez.


So if Griezmann becomes the best performer and Messi for example won't be in top 3, you will suppport Griezmann then the same way you support Messi now, right? Thumbs up

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Post by M99 Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:08 pm

HARMONICA I request that you add HERNANES on the list.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:09 pm

futbol wrote:LMAO Benzema "striker". While everyone knows he's a defender. This list. rofl
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