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Post by juve_gigi on Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:57 am

"The report adds that Bonucci, regarded as one of the world’s best central defenders, has ambitions to win the Champions League but feels he stands a far better chance at Juve than he would at any of Manchester City, Manchester United or Chelsea."

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Post by salmano9 on Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:11 pm

Is there a possibility to sell Zaza and get Hernanes for  free? Like buy one get one free deal? Laughing

Tbh, I'd rather see Lemina stay because he showed some potential this season and Allegri really trusted him as soon as he came from his injury.

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Post by Warrior on Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:36 pm

I'd prefer we sell Hernanes to a Serie A club tbh

This way we weaken a direct opponent instead of West Ham who we only face in exhibition.
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Post by lucianomoggi on Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:55 pm

Lol

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Post by salmano9 on Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:27 pm

Juventus, Pogba towards the United: 48 hours to close, details
Paul Pogba

Gianluca Di Marzio27/07/2016 20:38

Welcomed Gonzalo Higuain today in Turin for Juventus is already time to dive back on the deal Pogba , another hot summer deal for Juventus. The next 48 hours will be decisive ones for defining the operation, with the parties closer and closer to close. The figure that Manchester should be paid to Juventus is just over 110 million Euros plus bonuses, with the percentage to be paid Raiola borne by the United.



A slight revival which seems to be crucial, in fact, if everything should proceed as in these hours, Pogba could make medical visits to the red devils directly in America. The situation seems to have unlocked, Manchester United is getting closer to finally get their hands on Paul Pogba.
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Sad I feel sad tbh. Our midfield :'(

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Post by lucianomoggi on Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:44 pm

I do not mind pogba leaving that will bring us gabigol and another cm player
He wants out, he wants better wage he should go







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Post by DeviAngel on Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:45 pm

If he wants to leave no way I am sad. But I am grateful for everything.

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Post by salmano9 on Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:10 pm

Of course Lucianomoggi is happy, as long as hernanes isn't leaving yet...

I hope and pray that Marchisio comes back healthy and stronger in October alongside Khedira. I haven't seen reports indicating that his recivery is goong to be delayed.

Get rid of Hernanes ASAP.

Gabigol won't bring the smile back to my face. Maybe Matic or someone like Rakitic...

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Post by lucianomoggi on Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:19 pm

@salmano9 wrote:Of course Lucianomoggi is happy, as long as hernanes isn't leaving yet...

I hope and pray that Marchisio comes back healthy and stronger in October alongside Khedira. I haven't seen reports indicating that his recivery is goong to be delayed.

Get rid of Hernanes ASAP.

Gabigol won't bring the smile back to my face. Maybe Matic or someone like Rakitic...



When Hernanes was asked about him leaving he said I just bought a house here I never did that before, it is because I want to stay here

When Pogba was asked about him leaving to United he put there a smile and told we will see about that

what do you want me to do? I respect players decisions

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Post by Luca on Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:19 pm

Btw moggi. You had said about the final against Barcelona that Marchisio was at fault for Iniesta making the run to set up Rakitic's goal, it was actually Vidal who didn't track back.

Second, for Morata's goal it was Marchisio who started the play with a brilliant back heel to Lichtsteiner who passed to Tevez, who's shot was saved and the rebound scored by Morata.

So, that's more than Hernanes has done in his career lets just say.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister on Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:22 pm

I think we're losing sight of the fact that everybody outside of GL wouldn't even engage in this debate because it's so far fetched and ridiculous.

Usually the person making the bold, ridiculous claim I.E Hernanes > Marchisio has all of the pressure to back that argument up.

Honestly this is awful. Might as well say Neto > Buffon because I think he is and Neto has never lost a CL final penalty shootout.

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Post by Luca on Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:26 pm

Very true, I just wanted to clarify as the CL final stuck out to me. But I actually ended up watching the highlights from 2015 today- don't ask why, and Marchisio was not only not at fault for the goal he was instrumental in creating our only goal and was better than Pirlo and Vidal.
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Post by lucianomoggi on Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:26 pm

Marchisio was outsmarted from tiki-taka

he was there inside the box and when Neymar running on the side he was already being marked from 2 other players good enough but Marchisio somehow decided to make it 3 , which gave lots of space for Iniesta

Vidal has nothing to do with that because he was also focused on counter-attacks he was somehow AM-CM role but it was three of POGBA - PIRLO - MARCHISIO who was supposed to block tiki-taka

that beautiful pass that you mentioned was impressive, not because I am impressed if someone pass the ball from behind, but the way it initiated the attack was impressive, but other than that what did he do?


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Post by Tomwin Lannister on Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:29 pm

Incoherent. This discussion will be the death of this section unless we can hopefully sell Hernanes for the £5,000,000 he's worth of just release him and stop paying him wages he doesn't deserve.

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Post by Warrior on Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:29 pm

The transfer for Pogba is done since many weeks imo.

The problem is Raiola's fee: the 2 clubs probably don't want to pay him at all, or want to pay less than the actual fee (25? 30? what an aberration nmw)...

Now imagine Raiola trying not only to convince the teams for Pogba moving, but also to get paid himself ! That might be hard to negociate since basically Juve-Man Utd could have done business without Raiola being the link between them 2.

To be brief, i think the fat flubber nearly sunk the deal, and still might as we speak.
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Post by Warrior on Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:33 pm

Soooo the Marchisio vs Hernanes argument is still ongoing ?

Can't believe i just wrote this ffs Laughing
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Post by Tomwin Lannister on Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:34 pm

If I was looking to discuss Juve matters on a football forum and I stumbled upon GL, seeing Hernanes > Marchisio debates would literally, no joke, scare me away and i'd carry on looking.

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Post by lucianomoggi on Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:41 pm

I don't understand you tom why do you have to take an opposite thought so hard way? I respect people with opposite thoughts because from them I learned the most

you cannot learn from someone that you agree on everything you talk about, neither there can be a debate you talk the most with those who has opposite thoughts, you are curious about what do they have that you don't , if its wrong or not

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Post by Tomwin Lannister on Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:43 pm

Because some 'opinions' are just insane


Sure. Everybody is entitled to an opinion, just like I am entitled to laugh at the most obscene opinions out there.

Literally no Juve fan in their right mind bar you would even debate this as being a close call, let alone declaring Hernanes, our biggest liability, to be better than one of our most important players.


It's mind bending stuff. Amazing.

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Post by lucianomoggi on Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:48 pm

it shouldn't upset you if I discuss about Hernanes
at the end that is what forums are about, discussions , if it was only about the news I would simply go google I would never come to the forum , but we discuss things here and that makes it attractive , expressing, creative and so

rather if I believe this or that, that is not going to change what Alegri thinks which is most important, but we simply discussing


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Post by Warrior on Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:50 pm

Reminds me of someone from that forum i visited everyday during my teenage years. There was a polish guy who had the exact same kind of frenzy, but with Euzebiusz Smolarek :facepalm:

As a very recent user i'd say i'm very glad i subscribed GL after all.... even if i never, ever, ever expected to debate about Marchisio being "correct but that's it", while Hernanes being the fallen god of football whose abilities will be unlocked only the day hen's will have teeth.


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Post by rincon on Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:52 pm

Lets just not talk about Hernanes ever again pls.


On better topics!
I've read someone post (forgot who) that this might be our best mercato since, and maybe even including, 2001/02. Something like that was the post.

Do you guys rate this summer that highly?
I'm loving it, but I'm not sure I would put it above 2011/12.
What do you guys think?

Is this better than bringing:

Matri, Vucinic, Vidal, Litchsteiner, Pirlo, Caceres, Giaccherini + others (Pepe, Padoin, etc.)

+ Conte.

These guys became a huge part of our success for 3/4 years and brought us back to life. I still think that year was better. Although I haven't thought about it much.
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Post by lucianomoggi on Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:56 pm

hehe, just because I am outnumbered on a debate that doesn't give someone a right to insult me or something but even that I tolerate because it makes me better


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Post by Tomwin Lannister on Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:58 pm

Just like it makes HERNANES better. amirite?


Do me a favour and go to a Juve community outside of GL and continue this utter crap regarding our worst bench player being better than a future captain of the club.

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Post by lucianomoggi on Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:59 pm

that is a good question there

I think this mercato is really good, we made a really positive effort

results also depend on the luck, you cannot tell mercato was a failure if Higuain brakes the leg, it doesn't work like that, we did a really good job bringing really good players, and from now on we should pray to Buffon, to keep us safe and we should pray to forwards to keep scoring goals

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Post by rincon on Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:02 am

@luciano

you are really very patient, no one can take that from you. At least from myself I don't dismiss or dislike your opinions and debates on any other matter, its all good stuff.

Its just that this one is so, so wrong. Specially when you bring up that we hype Marchisio just because he Italian, and hate on Hernanes just because he is from Inter.

That could not be farther from the truth lol. Pick any, truly any, of our foreign players and they are still more valuable to us than Hernanes. Even Neto because he is quality whenever he plays.

And the Inter argument? ridiculous. Bonucci and Pirlo came from Inter. Juventinos can't love them more than we already do. Huge part of our teams. Higuain will come from Napoli and we still welcome him and get hyped. Dani Alves knocked us out of the last CL final and everyone still likes the signing. Its not what they did with our rivals that matters, its what they do with us.
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