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Andrew_p wrote:Can his clause be paid in 2 installments as it was originally reported ? If that's the case then the deal wouldn't be THAT bad.
Either way, I'd rather have Icardi instead.
Yes it can be paid in two instalmemts. And yes Icardi would be a great option as well. Dybala Icardi could get 50 goals between the two of them.
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L'agente di Mario Mandzukic, Ivan Cvjetković, non ha dubbi sul futuro del suo assistito: "Anche se dovesse arrivare Higuain alla Juventus non ci sarebbero problemi".
This is coming from Mandzukic's agent. He is saying he has no doubts about his client's future. Even if Higuain were to arrive at Juve there would be no problems. He will not ask to leave. Good news I believe.
L'agente di Mario Mandzukic, Ivan Cvjetković, non ha dubbi sul futuro del suo assistito: "Anche se dovesse arrivare Higuain alla Juventus non ci sarebbero problemi".
This is coming from Mandzukic's agent. He is saying he has no doubts about his client's future. Even if Higuain were to arrive at Juve there would be no problems. He will not ask to leave. Good news I believe.
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ManU coming back at $125 million...
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Top emotional blackmail from De Laurentiis on Higuain: “We’ll have to see if he betrays the love he swore to the people of Napoli”
8:53 AM - 19 Jul 2016
De Laurentiis getting down and dirty. Oh the desperation. Juve better just activate the release clause before this guy ends up in the emergency surgery ward for heart failure...
James Horncastle – Verified account @JamesHorncastle
Top emotional blackmail from De Laurentiis on Higuain: “We’ll have to see if he betrays the love he swore to the people of Napoli”
8:53 AM - 19 Jul 2016
De Laurentiis getting down and dirty. Oh the desperation. Juve better just activate the release clause before this guy ends up in the emergency surgery ward for heart failure...
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@GIGI lol
this guy is crazy
club and the fans should respect the player decision
if POGBA wants out? we should not insult we should respect the player decision,
you take the money and you spend it smart
this guy is crazy
club and the fans should respect the player decision
if POGBA wants out? we should not insult we should respect the player decision,
you take the money and you spend it smart
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I dont want Higuain for 94m. Better to spend the money on James or Isco... We seriously need to replace Pogba if he's gone, because our midfield is shit right now with having Pjanic as the only reliable name.
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salmano9 wrote:I dont want Higuain for 94m. Better to spend the money on James or Isco... We seriously need to replace Pogba if he's gone, because our midfield is shit right now with having Pjanic as the only reliable name.
but we already have guys like PJANIC and DYBALA so we don't really need too much ISCO or james
it is more need for someone like HIGUAIN, SANCHEZ
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lucianomoggi wrote:salmano9 wrote:I dont want Higuain for 94m. Better to spend the money on James or Isco... We seriously need to replace Pogba if he's gone, because our midfield is shit right now with having Pjanic as the only reliable name.
but we already have guys like PJANIC and DYBALA so we don't really need too much ISCO or james
it is more need for someone like HIGUAIN, SANCHEZ
We have great attackers already, but our MF is really unstable. Khedira and Marchisio injured, sturaro pereyra lemina back ups.... :/
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If #Pogba leaves #Juve, 2 midfielders will come in, their list is: #Brozovic, #Witsel, #Matic, #Sissoko and #AGomes. @goal
Matic would be nice.
@salman, Pereyra and Hernanes are leaving anyway.
If #Pogba leaves #Juve, 2 midfielders will come in, their list is: #Brozovic, #Witsel, #Matic, #Sissoko and #AGomes. @goal
Matic would be nice.
@salman, Pereyra and Hernanes are leaving anyway.
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I'd take Brozovic and Matic from that list.
I'm a big fan of Brozo, with Banega coming maybe he isn't so crucial to Inter.
I'm a big fan of Brozo, with Banega coming maybe he isn't so crucial to Inter.
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rincon wrote:I'd take Brozovic and Matic from that list.
I'm a big fan of Brozo, with Banega coming maybe he isn't so crucial to Inter.
Thought i was among the few that rated Brozovic. Would agree.
Along with Pogba, i'm expecting Pereyra, Hernanes and perhaps Lemina to leave.
So we potentially could be looking at a midfield of,
Marchisio, Pjanic, Matic, Khedira, Brozovic, Sturaro, Asamoah, Mandragora.
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I doubt we get Brozovic anyhow. Matic and someone young like Diawara or maybe Bazoer may be desirable.
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Diawara looks really legit but he is being a real prick to Bologna this summer, not sure that Juve will go for him for now. He is also too raw at 19yo. Would be good, but I'd prefer Brozovic, really young and with plenty of experience and talent.
Marchisio, Pjanic, Matic, Khedira, Brozovic, Sturaro, Asamoah, Mandragora.
^this one you posted is perfect for me
Marchisio, Pjanic, Matic, Khedira, Brozovic, Sturaro, Asamoah, Mandragora.
^this one you posted is perfect for me
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I think Matic and someone more creative would give us the best balance in midfield. With Pogba leaving (who really was the sole creative force in the middle last season), our only creative player in the middle is Pjanic- who is actually better at creating chances than Pogba.
Matic is the perfect vice Marchisio and also a vice Khedira, the transfer screams Juventus because he seems like such a great fit right now.
What I hope, is we don't spend too much time on the midfield when we still want an attacker. I hope for some quick business.
Matic is the perfect vice Marchisio and also a vice Khedira, the transfer screams Juventus because he seems like such a great fit right now.
What I hope, is we don't spend too much time on the midfield when we still want an attacker. I hope for some quick business.
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rincon wrote:Diawara looks really legit but he is being a real prick to Bologna this summer, not sure that Juve will go for him for now. He is also too raw at 19yo. Would be good, but I'd prefer Brozovic, really young and with plenty of experience and talent.
Marchisio, Pjanic, Matic, Khedira, Brozovic, Sturaro, Asamoah, Mandragora.
^this one you posted is perfect for me
Agreed. Also apologies if i may have appeared too hostile in the other thread. After losing Pogba, when i saw names like Bernardeschi mentioned, i kind of freaked out. Not to say he isnt a bad player but imo we need some proven quality in midfield right now before we think about players like him.
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Its alright, edgy times when Pogba is about to leave. We are most likely not getting Bernardeschi, but he is better than most names we are linked to. Also Italian, which at Juve means they are very unlikely to ever force a move Vidal/Pogba style.
Thats how I feel when I see Andre Gomez, 60mill for a player that has shown so little consistency. He got benched in Portugal's less then stellar midfield by a 18 year old, W. Carvalho and Joao Mario. Its an absurd prospect.
I don't even wanna get into Sissoko.
Thats how I feel when I see Andre Gomez, 60mill for a player that has shown so little consistency. He got benched in Portugal's less then stellar midfield by a 18 year old, W. Carvalho and Joao Mario. Its an absurd prospect.
I don't even wanna get into Sissoko.
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If #Pogba leaves #Juve, 2 midfielders will come in, their list is: #Brozovic, #Witsel, #Matic, #Sissoko and #AGomes. @goal
Matic would be nice.
@salman, Pereyra and Hernanes are leaving anyway.
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Napoli won't buy Pereyra from us now for sure. Hernanes hopefully he will leave for a price.
As for Matic, we need someone better, much better, someone who can make us feel we haven't lost Pogba. Sissoko and Witsel are not satisfying me either.
As for Matic, we need someone better, much better, someone who can make us feel we haven't lost Pogba. Sissoko and Witsel are not satisfying me either.
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Pjanic is that player salmano
Pjanic-Marchisio-Khedira
It's hard to upgrade on either Marchisio or Khedira who are both fantastic in their roles. We just have to play around their injuries- one long term and one always a risk. Matic is perfect in relief of both, a real physically strong player in the middle. I think he would do amazing in Allegri's 3-5-2 and allows Pjanic to focus on creating.
Then I would look for a creative midfielder for the bench that can rotate with Pjanic. Someone Hernanes is supposed to be but isn't because he doesn't create any chances, only tears of sorrow from my eyes.
Then move 1-3 midfielders out.
Pjanic-Marchisio-Khedira
It's hard to upgrade on either Marchisio or Khedira who are both fantastic in their roles. We just have to play around their injuries- one long term and one always a risk. Matic is perfect in relief of both, a real physically strong player in the middle. I think he would do amazing in Allegri's 3-5-2 and allows Pjanic to focus on creating.
Then I would look for a creative midfielder for the bench that can rotate with Pjanic. Someone Hernanes is supposed to be but isn't because he doesn't create any chances, only tears of sorrow from my eyes.
Then move 1-3 midfielders out.
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Brozovic or Kovacic (to make a mini Croatian national team within Juve), Mata, Gabigol and Higuain...
Sell Zaza, Pererya, Hernanes, Lemina...
Mercato closed...
Sell Zaza, Pererya, Hernanes, Lemina...
Mercato closed...
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salmano9 wrote:As for Matic, we need someone better, much better, someone who can make us feel we haven't lost Pogba. Sissoko and Witsel are not satisfying me either.
Sadly i think we can't replace Pogba, at least not this summer. So we might as well keep most of the money for the next transfer window. Pjanic is a world class player that we did not have last season, so we should wait to know how it goes with him instead of Pogba.
I also trust Pereyra and Lemina to be solid, they are nowhere near Pogba's level, but i suppose they will have their chance in some matches from now on. Pereyra had a bad season but the year before he was amazing, and for Lemina, i don't see major flaws in his game. He seldom played but was actually quite decent as far as i'm concerned.
However,
- Verratti
- Matic
- Ramires
Would be the ones i bid for, in this order. if not possible, then ok... our present squad minus Pogba is still Serie A champions before match day 35
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Ramires is 29 and plays in China and for the club that owns Inter no less
u wot m8?
I wish Juventus could sign Verratti but I think he's untouchable
Imagine Verratti and Matic, lord have mercy
u wot m8?
I wish Juventus could sign Verratti but I think he's untouchable
Imagine Verratti and Matic, lord have mercy
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352 formation is an option
------------ fw ---fw -----------
Sandro -- pjaca -- pjanic --- alves
------------ marchisio -----------
--- chiellini -- bonuci -- barzagli -
We already have marchisio, khedira, hernanes, for the center midfield with experience and we also have guys liks pjaca, pjanic, sturaro, lemina
All of these are trustworthy players the focus should be to bring higuain
------------ fw ---fw -----------
Sandro -- pjaca -- pjanic --- alves
------------ marchisio -----------
--- chiellini -- bonuci -- barzagli -
We already have marchisio, khedira, hernanes, for the center midfield with experience and we also have guys liks pjaca, pjanic, sturaro, lemina
All of these are trustworthy players the focus should be to bring higuain
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Pogba was also untouchable for us. From now on all these "100% staying" statements from any clubs i consider it as dog shit. Any player who wants to play for another club absolutely can, even more so if the said player is a star.
I did not know Ramires' club was own by the Inter owners. In fact, i don't even know what club he plays for lol.
We are only talking suggestions, so as you probably realized i often throw a odd name in those lists i make. Ramires is the guy this time. I think highly of him and his style of play would be something very useful because he is pretty much solid all-around and has lots of stamina. Being 29 is not a big deal imo, he is probably rusty because of the Chinese League... it's not like he is 36 after all.
Yet i agree with you very unlikely to happen. But he would be a valorous warrior for us i believe.
I did not know Ramires' club was own by the Inter owners. In fact, i don't even know what club he plays for lol.
We are only talking suggestions, so as you probably realized i often throw a odd name in those lists i make. Ramires is the guy this time. I think highly of him and his style of play would be something very useful because he is pretty much solid all-around and has lots of stamina. Being 29 is not a big deal imo, he is probably rusty because of the Chinese League... it's not like he is 36 after all.
Yet i agree with you very unlikely to happen. But he would be a valorous warrior for us i believe.
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I agree with that, to a certain extent- regarding a player's ability to leave a club.
But you also have to be able to offer that player something the current club cannot.
Verratti:
In PSG, he has Paris, a wonderful city, a wonderful team, all the money he can earn and a shot at multiple trophies each season, including the Champions League with an ambitious squad of players.
Juventus can offer him a slightly better league, maybe equal wages or slightly more (but PSG would match or beat that surely), and the same attempts at trophies but also a return to Italy.
The thing is, with Verratti specifically because I do follow him quite a bit at PSG, they love him there and he loves to be there. Juventus could surely try and I think it would be an incredible signing but we also have to be realistic and reasonable, were not going to write a blank cheque and to a club like PSG, it wouldn't matter, it would come down to Verratti himself wanting to go and for this season, I think he stays put.
Matic seems very reasonable and very realistic in terms of his qualities, price and likeliness to leave and as you see Ramires, I see Matic as an absolute perfect signing for Juventus. He would be a very strong physical presence in the midfield to act as a vice Marchisio/Khedira option.
Ramires is probably making some sort of stupid amount of money in China, money I'm sure we wouldn't pay. He made a financially motivated move and his career is basically over in Europe.
A name I'm surprised we haven't seen linked to Juventus: Matuidi, he seems like a reasonable target after PSG signed Krychowiak too. What do ya'll think of him? He's like the anti-Pogba, all the energy and defensive work but lacking in technique and offense compared to Pogba, I like him as an option though.
But you also have to be able to offer that player something the current club cannot.
Verratti:
In PSG, he has Paris, a wonderful city, a wonderful team, all the money he can earn and a shot at multiple trophies each season, including the Champions League with an ambitious squad of players.
Juventus can offer him a slightly better league, maybe equal wages or slightly more (but PSG would match or beat that surely), and the same attempts at trophies but also a return to Italy.
The thing is, with Verratti specifically because I do follow him quite a bit at PSG, they love him there and he loves to be there. Juventus could surely try and I think it would be an incredible signing but we also have to be realistic and reasonable, were not going to write a blank cheque and to a club like PSG, it wouldn't matter, it would come down to Verratti himself wanting to go and for this season, I think he stays put.
Matic seems very reasonable and very realistic in terms of his qualities, price and likeliness to leave and as you see Ramires, I see Matic as an absolute perfect signing for Juventus. He would be a very strong physical presence in the midfield to act as a vice Marchisio/Khedira option.
Ramires is probably making some sort of stupid amount of money in China, money I'm sure we wouldn't pay. He made a financially motivated move and his career is basically over in Europe.
A name I'm surprised we haven't seen linked to Juventus: Matuidi, he seems like a reasonable target after PSG signed Krychowiak too. What do ya'll think of him? He's like the anti-Pogba, all the energy and defensive work but lacking in technique and offense compared to Pogba, I like him as an option though.
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lucianomoggi wrote:352 formation is an option
------------ fw ---fw -----------
Sandro -- pjaca -- pjanic --- alves
------------ marchisio -----------
--- chiellini -- bonuci -- barzagli -
We already have marchisio, khedira, hernanes, for the center midfield with experience and we also have guys liks pjaca, pjanic, sturaro, lemina
All of these are trustworthy players the focus should be to bring higuain
For a second there I thought you cloned Pjanic...
Can someone tell Marotta to stop buying anymore players named "Pja"? It's getting quite confusing...
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