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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:14 am

urbaNRoots wrote:City already dominate more than half the teams in the league. Not like Pep will have to make Kante-Drinkwater-Albrighton play possession football.

Pep's biggest challenge is making that team a defensively drilled team, but the way Pep's teams play anyway it won't take a long time.


Yep lol.

Besides it's not like he isn't going to spend shit loads anyway.

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Post by McAgger Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:29 am

okay mate bookmarked.

Get back to me next season.
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Post by RedOranje Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:38 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I don't hate anybody Sad

Do I need to dig up that tweet again?
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Post by Kaladin Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:42 am

RedOranje wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I don't hate anybody Sad

Do I need to dig up that tweet again?


Laughing
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:46 am

RedOranje wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I don't hate anybody Sad

Do I need to dig up that tweet again?


I have changed imo hmm
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Post by RedOranje Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:58 am

Art Morte wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:Not having seen the full games lately, just parts, but still: is it just me or are Liverpool starting to play some really fluid, confident and entertaining attacking football lately?


I wouldn't say so. There's still quite a lot we could do better in attack, both on individual and collective level. Today's scoreline is flattering our attack a little.

Someone may want to double check, but I do believe that LFC are leading goalscorers in the PL for 2016 so far.
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Post by Peccadillo Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:29 am

Jay29 wrote:Chelsea, City and probably United will have new managers, so you can't be sure how they'll fare in their first seasons. We'll have to see how Spurs and Liverpool strengthen over the summer. Leicester I suspect will drop down the table because I just don't think their players can replicate the efforts they've put in this season.

As for us... never again under Wenger, I'm afraid Laughing Will probably flirt with the title for a bit then drop back down into 3rd/4th like usual.

Only thing I'm sure is that a disgusting amount of money is going to be spent by these teams to right what went wrong this year.


Or we have a mass exodus and start from scrap again.
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Post by CBarca Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:40 am

Just realized with this result that CL qualification is all but a lock for Spurs now Shocked

Don't think even Spurs could choke this one away, up by 12 with 5 games to go (Man U with a game in hand)
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Post by free_cat Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:50 am

Leicester, what a team. Are Vardy and Mahrez the greatest duo the PL has ever seen?
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Post by Jay29 Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:59 am

Better than Bergkamp/Henry or any of United's strike partnerships? I don't think so.

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Post by Valkyrja Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:32 am


A CM at CB
A CM/CB at RB
A No.10 at RW
A RW at No.10
A Striker at LW
A LW at Striker

May I present you, mister Louis Van Gaal Proud
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Post by Lucifer Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:51 pm

Valkyrja wrote:
A CM at CB
A CM/CB at RB
A No.10 at RW
A RW at No.10
A Striker at LW
A LW at Striker

May I present you, mister Louis Van Gaal Proud

LVG mixing and spicing up things Proud
Mrs Van Gal is one lucky woman if u ask me

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Post by Robespierre Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:23 pm

Suarez-Sturridge was an unreal duo too .. and Fowler-Collymore too.
Seen partnership mostly connected than this
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Post by RealGunner Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:30 pm

Leiciester winning the league with 4-4-2 once again proves what an underrated formation it is.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:33 pm

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Post by Valkyrja Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:35 pm

as a classic duo, at the moment, there is nobody better than prolific Mahrez and Vardy. at least not this season.
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Post by rincon Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:43 pm

RealGunner wrote:Leiciester winning the league with 4-4-2 once again proves what an underrated formation it is.



Didn't Ferguson play mostly with the 4-4-2?
4-4-2 >>>>> the EPL. Its a good formation, solid in both directions. Lippi's 4-4-2 in 2006 Heart
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:48 pm

Valkyrja wrote:as a classic duo, at the moment, there is nobody better than prolific Mahrez and Vardy. at least not this season.


They are not even a duo lol, one plays upfront and one plays on the wing, so by your own definition they are not a duo.
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Post by Glory Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:05 pm

Valkyrja wrote:
A CM at CB
A CM/CB at RB
A No.10 at RW
A RW at No.10
A Striker at LW
A LW at Striker

May I present you, mister Louis Van Gaal Proud


That particular CM has been playing CB all throughout the season and has been outstanding for United on a consistent basis. If we cant get a really good CB for next season wont personally mind even if we continue with Blind at CB for 1 season or 2. Its better than getting overrated short term solutions like Ramos or Hummels for huge money anyway.


As for this, agree his position in the long run would be in a ball winner role or a box to box role in midfield but right now his passing is not up there. The kid is a brilliant reader of the game and has blistering pace and physique.
Dont think therefore its a bad idea to put him in RB for 3 or 4 seasons. And its not like we have better options available than him for that spot anyway. The boy could be our Alaba. Proud


What makes you think that Mata is a no.10 ? He is not a RW. But he is not a 10 either. He has been poor whenever hes played there in the middle. Doesnt have the close control and ability to work in tight spaces and thats why LvG puts him far away from the middle from where he can work his way through if he want to the middle. He is not being played as a traditional RW anyway.
Mata's best position is that of a 2nd striker in a 4-4-2 or if its a 4-2-3-1 and if he is in the no.10 role, then he need an attack minded CM behind him. He cant play in the hole if the 2 CMs are of the Carrick/Schneiderlin/Schweinsteiger mould.


And this.
Well, Martial is our best player undoubtedly. So we need him to get involved as much as he can in the game. Most times when hes played in the middle he has been left isolated. And the kid is not a finished product either.
So dont think its a bad idea either to put him for the time being on the left.


So not all of his decisions yesterday are exactly square peg in round hole ones. From an outsiders perspective yea it can like look that. But actually yesterdays was slightly better than usual as a matter of fact. .

Anyway if you want to laugh at LvG I will help ya with some more
Fellaini as a CM, CF
Herrera as a AM
Smalling as CF (towards the end of a match)
Young in LB, RB, AM, CF and many more.
Carrick in CB
Rojo in LB.

And the list just goes on...

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Post by CBarca Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:36 pm

Martial is developing his game on the LW right now like Henry did early in his career, he'll move to the center and explode soon enough.

IMO 7-10 years from now United will look back at LVG's time and realize that their future success is all down to him. No one sees it right now though except for him hmm

LVG :bow: :bow: :bow:
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Post by Doc Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:55 am

LvG really is the greatest thing an ABU can ask for. These hilarious times would eventually come to an end but I'm gonna enjoy and bask in this glorious time of seeing Young and Feli as a CF and Carrick as a play maker CB/sweeper.

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Post by Peccadillo Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:58 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:as a classic duo, at the moment, there is nobody better than prolific Mahrez and Vardy. at least not this season.


They are not even a duo lol, one plays upfront and one plays on the wing, so by your own definition they are not a duo.


I concur.

You cant just call a teams 2 best attacking players a duo.
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Post by Lex Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:31 pm

The term ABU can be discontinued because it's been
anyone but United for a while now
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:27 pm

For Art with love:

https://www.whoscored.com/Articles/ishchufr2ueexffb6ssugw/Show/Livewire-Lamela-Now-a-Key-Man-For-Pochettinos-Spurs

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Post by Art Morte Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:26 am

Alfred pls.

How am I supposed to take an article seriously that has such a hugely exciting stat as "possession won in attacking third" in it's opening graphic and then first paragraph talks about some Fosu-Mensah kid with two Premier League starts to his name as some formidable force that was required to keep the free-scoring, ever-menacing, supercar-styled superstar Erik Lamela at bay?

Lamela is playing in a winning team and everyone's been waiting for him to start performing closer to his price tag, so now that he's finally having an OK season - and nothing more than that - it's fashionable to point to him and say "look, there's an example of how Spurs have improved". Yes, Spurs have improved, but not because of Lamela; Lamela has improved because of Spurs.

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Post by Glory Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:33 am

Art Morte wrote:Alfred pls.

How am I supposed to take an article seriously that has such a hugely exciting stat as "possession won in attacking third" in it's opening graphic and then first paragraph talks about some Fosu-Mensah kid with two Premier League starts to his name as some formidable force that was required to keep the free-scoring, ever-menacing, supercar-styled superstar Erik Lamela at bay?


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What ?! Where exactly in that article have you read that ?
The only thing mentioned regarding Mensah here is that he was the best United player on pitch and that is spot on. His taking off directly resulted in all 3 of Spuds goals.

But Lol at the article for terming his substitution as 'baffling'. There was no way could have continued.

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